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post Aug 29 2006, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Marvin_86 @ Aug 29 2006, 05:10 PM)
my friend ask me to invest in insurance?really can work o not??
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For me, insurance is not really an investment. But, it's important in financial planning, as it will help a lot when there're something bad happen to you. Always consider insurance when doing financial planning, but there're many other investment better than insurance, such as share and property. However, different people can bear with different level of risk. Insurance definitely has lower risk, but there're many terms and conditions, where you must understand it clearly. Please get a professional insurance agent, let them explain to you clearly.
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post Aug 30 2006, 12:37 PM

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Normally we save an amount of money for emergency purpose before we do investment. How much is the ideal amount for this emergency fund?
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post Aug 31 2006, 05:47 PM

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ASW2020 is a good fund, I think. This fund is issued by government and the dividend yield is quite high. However, I understand that there's quota for bumi and non-bumi. Normally, quota for non-bumi will be full on the 1st day issuing. Not really want to go there early morning and queue there to buy the fund.
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post Sep 4 2006, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 1 2006, 02:22 PM)
can confirm or giv me d link where u all heat d news? coz i mayb wanna buy leh..... wink.gif
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haha, lowyat82...If you read newspaper, the fund is sold out in 27minute...Do you manage to buy it?
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post Sep 5 2006, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat9999 @ Sep 5 2006, 09:22 AM)
there are new fund open in public mutual call PAIF..
can i  know whether it is safe to invest?
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This is Public Asia Ittikal Fund, it's a syariah equity fund. It's categorized as high risk, as it invest in equity but in asia region. The service charge is 6+%, I think. Should be good to invest...as there 1% bonus if you buy before 11Sept.
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post Sep 5 2006, 12:51 PM

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Ya, normally IPO fund will give bonus. PAIF give 1% bonus unit if you buy during IPO, which is before 11Sept.
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post Sep 5 2006, 03:25 PM

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Who can provide me information about online trading? I wish to know is there any method I can buy/sell share online. Is it all the online trading site apply charges on us?
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post Sep 7 2006, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(haha88 @ Sep 6 2006, 10:06 PM)
i have a investment....maybe better better than banker's investment
whenever our relatives, frenz pay their utility bills or go ATM machine take money.....we can get override...
Not only that, when we go shopping, eating, living in hotel we can get discount.
This is guarantee not a direct sales company...coz the company nt under registered DSAM...whoever join become member dont need find member still can get money(you can take as investment)

I heard that RM138 can get RM30000+

The company name is IPC shopping. Who interested can call 0192177118
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RM138 can get RM30000+??? Really hope can know more about this. Do you have any website I can refer to?
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post Sep 7 2006, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Amal @ Sep 7 2006, 01:37 PM)
for rm138.. i think its POLYGYM...
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What's POLYGYM?

I've surfed the website, ipcshopping.com, I'm not clear about what's that...
Can anybody here explain about this?

Thank you.
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post Sep 12 2006, 09:59 AM

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Nowadays, scammers are everywhere. If we're not greedy, then I think we won't be scammed. Keep in mind that, there's no free lunch in this world. You need to put effort, then only you get returns. Can't be denied that someone has earned a lot through MLM, but how many of them can do it? If you're clear about their system and you're interested to persuade people to join or buy your product, then go ahead. If you're not, please stay away from the MLM.

I more believe in investment. There's no way we can earn fast cash. Just put effort to learn all about investment, then you can get profit from the investment.
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post Sep 12 2006, 10:02 AM

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From my understanding, investment nowadays include mutual fund, property, stock market, insurances, bonds, futures, and currency exchange. Does anybody know about other mode of investment? Please share here.
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post Sep 12 2006, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(kubrick16 @ Sep 12 2006, 10:55 AM)
Insurance also considered a kind of investment ? In the sense of providing financial security if there case some unfortunate event happen to us ?

But what I understand from insurance is that we need to pay it every month but the money will not return to us in the future. Insurance just provides us sense of security ?

Not sure bout this though. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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If I'm not mistaken, insurance companies nowadays come out with some insurance plan that is investment. I'm not very clear about this, but heard of it before. Anybody got information in this?

I think insurance is very important in financial planning.
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post Sep 12 2006, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(_killer_ @ Sep 12 2006, 02:54 PM)
i believe that insurance plan oso 1 of thousand good investment u can make, rather than any MLM program outside there, i saw, i looks everywhere, and i trust some MLM's guy really make money, like for me, i tried here and there to do some R&D of investment, yet......MLM.....i didnt' find any that is not based on PYRAMID systems. some of them so pandai telling that is not a pyramid system...it's just a hierachy...wTduck?...hard lah like this...wanna invest oso susah...last week, i met up with frenz of mine who introduced this UPTREND program,,..anybody had experienced on this?...something related to maya n blaa..blaa.....last 2 week oso got ppl intro LUXOR program which can make u rich in at least R.O.I ( Return of Investment ) can get back within 1 week. argghh..tension...wut n where to invest???? cry.gif  cry.gif
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For sure, insurance is a better investment compared to MLM. In fact, MLM is a job instead of an investment.
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post Sep 13 2006, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 12 2006, 08:59 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=326577&st=40

1) Read my thread on our discussion on insurance.

2) You are confusing two different things here.  Selling insurance versus buying insurance.  People who sell life insurance makes a lot of money on commissions.  So, compare to MLM, selling life insurance is a lot more profitable.  As for buying life insurance, most people buy the wrong kind and wrong amount of life insurance.  They are making life insurance agent rich and getting very little in return.

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I'm saying that buying insurance can be considered as an investment. I understand that most of the people buy the wrong kind of insurance. So, I always emphasize on the professionality of the insurance agent. Sometime, agent themselves also not clear about the insurance policy and it's almost impossible for us to read the policy line by line. There're so many products from insurance companies nowadays, we should buy it according to our need and it must be aligned with our goals.
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post Sep 13 2006, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(_killer_ @ Sep 12 2006, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE(leekk8 @ Sep 12 2006, 05:40 PM)

dude....surf junky??...hahaa..heard a rumours saying that they will shutdown service for asian...just want to let u know...
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Thanks for your news...
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post Sep 13 2006, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Sep 13 2006, 01:38 PM)
Financial planning covers 6 areas :
1) cash management
2) tax management (what are tax deductibles?)
3) investment (unit trust, equity, etc etc)
4) risk management (insurance)
5) real estate (buy house etc)
6) retirement. (how to finance yourself after retirement)

educate yourselves in this areas and you can be finance savvy.
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Thanks for your info. I think tax management is really important in financial planning. This is the thing most people will leave out...
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post Sep 13 2006, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 13 2006, 08:34 PM)
Insurance is not an investment.  The return is less than FD.

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If I'm not mistaken, nowadays there are some insurance products giving more return compared to the conventional life insurance. I think education insurance should be one of them. The fund can be withdrawn when our kids go for tertiary education. And also there're some saving insurance where interest is higher than FD. Does anybody has info about this?
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post Sep 14 2006, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 14 2006, 07:38 AM)
My simple guide to life insurance

Life insurance is an insurance. It is used to protect against of the
risk of lost of income. For example, let's say A is the bread winner
of the family. If something happen to A ( for example die in an
accident), you will not longer have income from A. The family still
need to survive. Life insurance can provide/replace some portion of
the income so that the family still can survive. In some
circumstances, A will suffer some form of disability and can no longer
work, life insurance provide some compensation to help the family to
survive too. Please noted that in Malaysia, the protection against
disability is limited to what is specified in the policy. In advanced
countries like USA, they have disability insurance that pays as long
as you cannot work regardless whatever the cause is. This kind of
disability insurance does not exist in Malaysia. In summary, life
insurance is used to protect against the loss of income and
disability.

So, does life insurance makes sense to you??

1) Do you have dependents?
A) If you are single and have no dependent, it really does not make
much sense to buy life insurance.

B) If something happen to me, I would like to leave something for my
parents. Is your parent depend on your income for survival?? If answer
is no, why buy life insurance?? If you want leave something for your
parent, why not give your parent the money now?? Save the money from
insurance premium and give to your parent now every month.

2) If you are home maker and makes no income, why buy life insurance??

3) If you are married and your family depend on you to provide income,
in general, you should buy life insurance.

4) However, it may NOT be worthwhile for you to buy life insurance if
you have a lot of savings (more than 200K). In general, life insurance
in Malaysia get very expensive for payment greater than 200K.

All my comments does not necessary apply to medical insurance. Do your
own research to find out what is right for you. If your insurance
agent cannot explain to you why you should buy life insurance, why are
you buying??

The very complicated and complex thing about insurance in Malaysia is
that we do not have pure term life insurance. All insurance product in
Malaysia is normally a combination of life insurance, disability
protection and medical protection. In most cases, unless your
insurance agent is good and you do a lot of research, you really have
little or no idea what you are buying. I am not qualify to tell you
what you should buy and how much to buy in each circumstances.

The bottomline is you need to know is

1) what are you protect against??
Life, disability, medical

2) What is the likelihood for each risk at your age??

3) What is the cost for each option??

4) What is the maximum pay and deductable in each situation??

Insurance is used to protect against the situation where you do not
have enough resources to cover. You need to buy just enough so that
when the bad thing happen, you are coverred. But, you should NOT buy
so much that it costs too much to you.
Dreamer
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Thanks dreamer for your info on this. This is really a useful guide.
You said that most of the insurance in Msia is combination of life insurance, disability protection and medical protection, is it true? I heard that there're some insurance, where we pay the premium every year and no saving feature. Normally life insurance has saving feature, where we can withdraw the money at certain age.
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post Sep 14 2006, 09:17 PM

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Thanks for all the info. I realize we must get an experience insurance agent if we wish to buy an insurance.

Does anybody can give me some idea on the KLCI Futures and SSF(Single Stock Futures)? I wish to know how they operate and how we can buy and sell.
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post Sep 18 2006, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Sep 18 2006, 09:11 PM)
ya...today FAIR got 10 lots traded...first trade in more than a month  sweat.gif
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Why single future has so few trade? Maybe cause nobody know how to trade?smile.gif

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