Investment Malaysia Property Golden Era 2010 - 2020
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 Aug 11 2011, 11:27 PM, updated 12y ago
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Read few articles about property investment in Malaysia.
The next 10 years will be the golden era for property investment in Malaysia. It is no longer the same as in the past, as it is changing fast, and has become commercialised, globalised and professionalised. What do you think? |
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Aug 11 2011, 11:43 PM
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Think this is spot on.........altho I wont say that this will be exclusively only for Malaysia..........
this decade.............belongs to Asia............  |
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Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM
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If I tell u that:
-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! |
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Aug 12 2011, 08:49 AM
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What is happening in our property industry is similar to our neighbouring countries...
Yes, this decade belongs to Asia, and we can already see that we now have a record projects going on - 60 projects are now under construction in KL City alone and 78 are now coming on-stream. We have an increasing FDI and local investment especially in the services subsectors. But we faced a very high possibility of "overbuilt/glut" like in Bangkok and other Asian cities. This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 12 2011, 08:50 AM |
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Aug 12 2011, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: Yes.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?!  |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(dumeort @ Aug 12 2011, 09:03 AM) Yes. No |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:30 AM
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why does this decade belong to asia?
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Aug 12 2011, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: Time to sell in 2011?-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:47 AM
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sell and buy more
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Aug 12 2011, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: Mind giving some examples?-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 08:49 AM) What is happening in our property industry is similar to our neighbouring countries... i believed the businessmen do smell opportunities in msia/asia when come.Yes, this decade belongs to Asia, and we can already see that we now have a record projects going on - 60 projects are now under construction in KL City alone and 78 are now coming on-stream. We have an increasing FDI and local investment especially in the services subsectors. But we faced a very high possibility of "overbuilt/glut" like in Bangkok and other Asian cities. developers are not stupid (indeed they are very very smart like most of the property tycoon in the world) , that is why there are so many projects going on in the next 10 years. many of them have kept their KL land bank for so long (left by their grandfather) and now they start thier project in view of many opportunities coming to msia. the next decade is Asian. expect to see more ang moh to work in KL. not MD, GM, CEO but middle managers. (if our govt do the right things eg ETP etc) I hv seen many ABC, chinese holding US/Canada passport return to China to look for entry manager jobs, and now i see many ang moh go to china as well. Most MNC oni hiring in Asia not US, Europe (all freezed), they close /downsize their production at home and expand in Asia (some go to Msia eg Penang) i think if giving choice they will prefer to work in Msia (coz we all can speak English) i really pity those nag moh live in China..they even cant woo gal (not the pro) in disco, pub...(like chicken and duck, hand signal etc) , so end up stay at home watching cheap pirated dvd drama. if KL can offer them job, they love to come. my ang moh MD refused to relocate to China and insist AP HQ remain in KL. fyi he living in big bungalow in jl ampang with swim pool >rm20k rental. he enjoyed everything in KL even have fun at the barber shop. (most countries the hairdresser are men or gay). KL is a loving city..(hope the islam things not enroach, ban this ban that eg concerts, beer at 7&11, sport betting, 24 hrs disco/pub, etc (all these are allowed in Asian eg China , Thai, Japan, Korea, Taiwan , Sg etc. without this BAN msia is the BEST among all. - language, big bungalow, low living cost, not too cold wheather, sunny and blue sky, frenly ppl, good highway, nice island/beach/ resorts , no disasters etc |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:41 AM
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quite agree, my ex-angmo collegues couldnt find job at europ then now plan to job hunting in malaysia
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Aug 12 2011, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: Occupancy rate is quite hard to determine/check. no lights or dim of the units do not mean noone stay.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! I have tried my effort to survey the occupancy rate throughout the whole KL/Selangor apartment and condo before, but I failed coz me alone could not do that unless got contribution of all the forumers. (just contribute the occupancy rate of your current owned condo/apartment will do, and let the list rolling.) LOL This post has been edited by kh8668: Aug 12 2011, 12:10 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:09 PM
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even if the economy turns rosy everywhere, you can ask any angmo, yapunjai, honkoklou who has been out here and I can definately bet my head that most prefer to stay in SEA if possible (with stable good income)...
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Aug 12 2011, 12:27 PM
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surprisingly most "newly arrived" expats today in KL are not necessary the angmohs or Japs. (in fact we have a super declining no. of Japs)
We have a 200%+ increase in expats from India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. All my friendly bosses are from North India anyway... Yes they all like Malaysia and don't bother and/or do not know that we are a country of many racial divide. This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 12 2011, 12:28 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(dlyw1103 @ Aug 12 2011, 12:09 PM) even if the economy turns rosy everywhere, you can ask any angmo, yapunjai, honkoklou who has been out here and I can definately bet my head that most prefer to stay in SEA if possible (with stable good income)... as i said, if msia govt care about the nation economy/people living/earning , pls do something to lure investments and create "biz frenly" environment. msia will be much better than other SEA countries due to the reasons i mentioned earlier. ofcoz the hardcore islamist will not welcome the so called " biz frenly" environment. msia are in crossroad, to incresae income or remain holistic islam country. u can't increase income if you behave conservative.. many of my oversea biz fren complains Msia not "open" and they prefer to go phuket, bali, cebu, sentosa for holiday rather than langkawi, redang etc. even we m'sian also prefer to go there coz more "FUN" eg cheaper beer, hot shows at clubs, sun bathing (half nake?), nice massage etc . U cant expect the visitors to sleep in the hotel or blow wind 24 hours.. if msia can behave like thailand or at least as open as indonesia, i can guarantee u we msian income will increase 10x, better than Najib 2020 vision. |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 12:32 PM) as i said, if msia govt care about the nation economy/people living/earning , pls do something to lure investments and create "biz frenly" environment. msia will be much better than other SEA countries due to the reasons i mentioned earlier. ofcoz the hardcore islamist will not welcome the so called " biz frenly" environment. msia are in crossroad, to incresae income or remain holistic islam country. u can't increase income if you behave conservative.. many of my oversea biz fren complains Msia not "open" and they prefer to go phuket, bali, cebu, sentosa for holiday rather than langkawi, redang etc. even we m'sian also prefer to go there coz more "FUN" eg cheaper beer, hot shows at clubs, sun bathing (half nake?), nice massage etc . U cant expect the visitors to sleep in the hotel or blow wind 24 hours.. if msia can behave like thailand or at least as open as indonesia, i can guarantee u we msian income will increase 10x, better than Najib 2020 vision. is it? but why thai & indo no better than us?  to be more open wont make malaysia gain 10x income la brother...but if u said club owners gain more income than i can agree la...  This post has been edited by mousepad87: Aug 12 2011, 12:47 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:49 PM
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http://www.expatexplorer.hsbc.com/
Some informed opinions from the expats themselves. Malaysia ranked #10 QUOTE OVERALL 10 0.36 Income 15 0.24 Disposable income 11 0.34 Nicer/bigger property 2 0.89 Domestic helper/staff 7 0.77 Swimming pool 5 0.41 More than one property 2 0.39 Nicer Cars 16 0.34 Boat or yacht 18 0.07 More luxurious holidays 9 0.68 Healthcare 19 0.54   |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 12:27 PM) surprisingly most "newly arrived" expats today in KL are not necessary the angmohs or Japs. (in fact we have a super declining no. of Japs) u know ang moh, japanese, korean, taiwanese, chinese like to go pub, bar, ktv etc, it will be no fun with so many raid (JAIS, police etc) ,. today no new licence (and renewal) was issued in KV. most of them are operating illegally.. (how safe do u think), no profer fire safety, ventilation etc, even the renovation is also koyak coz the boss act hit and run strategy, no one will spend $$ to renovate nice decor. (also affect ID, contractor, furnishing income). all my oversea fren look down on our nite entertainment coz it is so run down and not safe. today our niteclubs are worse than 20 years ago eg deluxe, bintang palace are so run down. coz the boss know it is not "permanent". Even our genting also look so old... all my oversea fren laughed at me after they compare to Sg, Macau, Cambodia, Vietnam, Phil 's casino.. so now u know why less jap, angmo come to KL?? it is ok for bangla, pakistan, indian, middle east coz they dun go to bars (they oni go to mamak stalls and spend rm2 whole nite).. so how to contribute to msia economy? i also noticed kl shops are closed earlier (except mamak stalls) and not many ppl like to go out, unlike 20-30 years ago --all nite long!!We have a 200%+ increase in expats from India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. All my friendly bosses are from North India anyway... Yes they all like Malaysia and don't bother and/or do not know that we are a country of many racial divide. Added on August 12, 2011, 1:04 pm QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Aug 12 2011, 12:47 PM) is it? but why thai & indo no better than us? u still live like katak bawah tempurung?? did u go often to BKK, Jakarta and survey? (i m frequent there) to be more open wont make malaysia gain 10x income la brother...but if u said club owners gain more income than i can agree la... their GDP per capita lower than msia doesnt mean they are poorer (their rich pop is much bigger than msia) oni their total population is big (indo is 100x msia) so it appear to be poorer. same as China, no one dare to say China is poor, even the angmo (but their per capital is lower than msia). to be more open like china will make msia more properous! if not, msia will become....(u know i know lah) if u complain u cant afford a house why not complain the govt are so conservative?? Added on August 12, 2011, 1:56 pm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « if u changed the criteria the ranking is different liao * mean not enough data... This post has been edited by lucerne: Aug 12 2011, 01:56 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 11 2011, 11:43 PM) Think this is spot on.........altho I wont say that this will be exclusively only for Malaysia.......... Yeah !! this decade.............belongs to Asia............  Asia countries will become US high performance employee .... |
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Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: A negative thinker will always look negative for any oppurtunity. They do not dare to take any risks, even calculated risks.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! even the property market is drop, for a negative thinker will still wait and wait, no diff if up or down. end up they may need to rent or crying that government not help.... |
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Aug 12 2011, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 12:52 PM) if u changed the criteria the ranking is different liao Yes, the view is Economic criteria only. The rank on the right is Overall, look at Singapore #1.* mean not enough data... Of course no way Malaysia would be #10 in the world in overall. |
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Aug 12 2011, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: -Retail industry sales droping year after year which indicates consumer is no longer able to afford spending as much.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! Added on August 12, 2011, 6:51 pm QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM) A negative thinker will always look negative for any oppurtunity. They do not dare to take any risks, even calculated risks. At times is not about being positive, its about being realistic.even the property market is drop, for a negative thinker will still wait and wait, no diff if up or down. end up they may need to rent or crying that government not help.... This post has been edited by shroom: Aug 12 2011, 06:51 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM) A negative thinker will always look negative for any oppurtunity. They do not dare to take any risks, even calculated risks. Go chase ur golden 10 years. even the property market is drop, for a negative thinker will still wait and wait, no diff if up or down. end up they may need to rent or crying that government not help.... U don't need a 3rd party to validate ur choices. |
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Aug 12 2011, 07:33 PM
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Can share with us the article a not. Want to read..
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Aug 12 2011, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ Aug 12 2011, 07:33 PM) Can share with us the article a not. Want to read.. http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-ma...-property-inveshttp://blog.iproperty.com.my/tag/property-super-cycle/ http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/3185/& http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/206328 http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/241128 黃金十年房價國際化 http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/240585 投資房產好時機 |
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Aug 12 2011, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM) A negative thinker will always look negative for any oppurtunity. They do not dare to take any risks, even calculated risks. Manage to sell one of my property, and going to sell another one with 90% profit from the original price. even the property market is drop, for a negative thinker will still wait and wait, no diff if up or down. end up they may need to rent or crying that government not help.... I'm a person who always look for opportunity, I have to agree the property is expensive nowadays, but there still have some good buy out there. I'm not a person who like to complain and join the 'bersih', I'm not hardcore support government or any party, although opposition party become government; I think I still can find the opportunity to make $$$, bcos I understand if the person do not have the right attitude and always complain, they will still be who they are as current eventhough bill Clinton become our PM. For me the coming 10years is a good opportunity to increase my wealth. If anyone don't think so, then is your choice, nothing wrong anyway! Well, is Friday night now and I have go out to have some alcohol with my 300 horse power European marquee. Cheers |
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Aug 12 2011, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(flipacoin2k @ Aug 12 2011, 10:55 AM) Mind giving some examples? it sold out alright... but only 20% are with tenant.. the rest is with banner sticking out for rent or sale  |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:01 PM
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seeing the deteriorating ties in racial and religion, i got a good laugh when i see the title of this thread.....
no hope for maresia....period |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Aug 12 2011, 09:23 PM) Manage to sell one of my property, and going to sell another one with 90% profit from the original price. Agreed, however, I will only plan to let go 1 or 2 unit in 2012/2013, prepare the entry for next opportunity. continue to monitor and searching. For a positive attitude, it work out regrading you are in Bolehland or Africa.. I'm a person who always look for opportunity, I have to agree the property is expensive nowadays, but there still have some good buy out there. I'm not a person who like to complain and join the 'bersih', I'm not hardcore support government or any party, although opposition party become government; I think I still can find the opportunity to make $$$, bcos I understand if the person do not have the right attitude and always complain, they will still be who they are as current eventhough bill Clinton become our PM. For me the coming 10years is a good opportunity to increase my wealth. If anyone don't think so, then is your choice, nothing wrong anyway! Well, is Friday night now and I have go out to have some alcohol with my 300 horse power European marquee. Cheers btw, bolehland still a country with lot of good resources and skillful ppl, Not many natural disaster. perhap only some unbalance in racial, so what to those who have positive attitude. Seeing the deteriorating ties in racial and religion, i got a good laugh when i see the title of this thread..... no hope for maresia....period well, can continue to laugh... nothing wrong. but this is the country we born, laughing only will not help, why not voice it out and do something... if every body contribute a bit, it will very powerful. or other choice, this is a free world, we can migrate.... |
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Aug 12 2011, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 12 2011, 10:14 PM) well, can continue to laugh... nothing wrong. but this is the country we born, laughing only will not help, why not voice it out and do something... if every body contribute a bit, it will very powerful. or other choice, this is a free world, we can migrate.... hey dude..i am still laughing non stop but louder now  everyone can contribute? go and tell najis pls.... |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 10:56 AM) i believed the businessmen do smell opportunities in msia/asia when come. Betul cakaplah developers are not stupid (indeed they are very very smart like most of the property tycoon in the world) , that is why there are so many projects going on in the next 10 years. many of them have kept their KL land bank for so long (left by their grandfather) and now they start thier project in view of many opportunities coming to msia. the next decade is Asian. expect to see more ang moh to work in KL. not MD, GM, CEO but middle managers. (if our govt do the right things eg ETP etc) I hv seen many ABC, chinese holding US/Canada passport return to China to look for entry manager jobs, and now i see many ang moh go to china as well. Most MNC oni hiring in Asia not US, Europe (all freezed), they close /downsize their production at home and expand in Asia (some go to Msia eg Penang) i think if giving choice they will prefer to work in Msia (coz we all can speak English) i really pity those nag moh live in China..they even cant woo gal (not the pro) in disco, pub...(like chicken and duck, hand signal etc) , so end up stay at home watching cheap pirated dvd drama. if KL can offer them job, they love to come. my ang moh MD refused to relocate to China and insist AP HQ remain in KL. fyi he living in big bungalow in jl ampang with swim pool >rm20k rental. he enjoyed everything in KL even have fun at the barber shop. (most countries the hairdresser are men or gay). KL is a loving city..(hope the islam things not enroach, ban this ban that eg concerts, beer at 7&11, sport betting, 24 hrs disco/pub, etc (all these are allowed in Asian eg China , Thai, Japan, Korea, Taiwan , Sg etc. without this BAN msia is the BEST among all. - language, big bungalow, low living cost, not too cold wheather, sunny and blue sky, frenly ppl, good highway, nice island/beach/ resorts , no disasters etc Added on August 12, 2011, 11:15 pm QUOTE(jet2020 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:01 PM) seeing the deteriorating ties in racial and religion, i got a good laugh when i see the title of this thread..... Migrate.. no hope for maresia....period Added on August 12, 2011, 11:18 pm QUOTE(doomdoom @ Aug 12 2011, 11:41 AM) quite agree, my ex-angmo collegues couldnt find job at europ then now plan to job hunting in malaysia Angmo sexy house maid for me may be one day..  This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Aug 12 2011, 11:18 PM |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:37 PM) hey dude..i am still laughing non stop but louder now pls go to other forum for politics...we r discussing about msia property future not racial and religion everyone can contribute? go and tell najis pls.... |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 11:44 PM) pls go to other forum for politics...we r discussing about msia property future not racial and religion this is an open forum for everyone to express their own views. if one cannot take the heat in the kitchen, then please stay away from the kitchen Btw, who said property future is not related to politics? |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:53 PM
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msia property is now headed for a slowdown. do you agree?
now see this.... (courtesy Skyscrapercity Malaysia and created by Patchay.Com) QUOTE(patchay;82776746) CITY OF KUALA LUMPUR SKYSCRAPER DEVELOPMENTS AUGUST 2011 ^^ Excluding fringe areas of: - Sentul, - Setapak/Melawati, - Ampang Hilir/Setiawangsa, - Kepong/Desa ParkCity, - Mont'Kiara/Sri Hartamas/Taman Duta, - TTDI/Bangsar/Damansara, - Pantai/Mid Valley City, - Jalan Klang Lama/Kuchai/Taman Desa, - Bukit Jalil, - Sg Besi/Bandar Tasik Selatan, - Cochrane/Maluri, etc Source: http://www.patchay.com/p/kuala-lumpur-urba...velopments.html On-Going (60): Petronas Tower 3 (completing) ---> 59 storeys Menara Felda @ Platinum Park ---> 50 storeys Menara NAZA 1 and 2 @ Platinum Park ---> 50, 38 storeys Platinum Residences @ Platinum Park ---> one of the tallest residences in KL, 3 blocks of 52+ storeys Grand Hyatt Kuala Lumpur (completing) Impiana KLCC Hotel Residences Tower (completing) Le Nouvel @ KLCC I B Tower ---> potentially the top 5 tallest in KL with 62 storeys Menara Binjai Integra Tower @ The Intermark Kuala Lumpur Setia Sky Residences Glomac Tower (completing) The Pearl @ KLCC (completing) SOHO Suites @ KLCC ViPod Residences @ KLCC Quadro Residences @ KLCC Park Binjai 8 Service Suites Banyan Tree Signatures Kuala Lumpur ---> 55 storeys Suasana Simfoni, Jalan Conlay St. Mary Residences Kuala Lumpur Hap Seng Tower Plaza Atrium, Lorong P Ramlee Public Mutual Tower Platinum Suites, Office, Hotel @ FACE Project ---> 3 blocks of 52 storeys Summer Suites @ Menara Solaris Kuala Lumpur Crest Jalan Sultan Ismail Fraser Residence Kuala Lumpur/188 Suites S.A. Mirage Residences, Jalan Yap Kwan Seng Trillion Kuala Lumpur Verticas Residensi SixCeylon One @ Bukit Ceylon Ceylon Gardens/next to Menara Ceylon Suasana Bukit Ceylon Service Residences St. John Woods Residence, Persiaran Raja Chulan Times Avenue, Jalan Imbi KL Contingent Police Headquarters, Jalan Hang Tuah CIMB Tower @ KL Sentral Q Sentral/Quill Building 19 St. Regis Kuala Lumpur, The Hotel and The Residences The Sentral Residences ---> one of the tallest residences in KL, 2 blocks of 52 storeys KL Sentral Park (completing) 348 Sentral (Shell Tower) and The Ascott Sentral Kuala Lumpur Lot G (Parcel A and B): Nu Sentral Lot G (Parcel C and D): Hotel and office towers by MRCB and Aseana Bank Rakyat Twin Towers Dua Sentral (completing) Sentral Vista Kompleks Kerja Raya 2 Majestic Hotel Kuala Lumpur 6 CapSquare Regalia @ Sultan Ismail (completing) The Elements @ Ampang D'Rapport @ Ampang Olive 108 Ampang M Suites @ Embassy Row, Jalan Ampang La Prima Ampang Casa Residency Vue Residences, Jalan Pahang Kenanga Wholesale City (completing) Coming Soon (77): KL International Financial District ---> will have a supertall tower (planning) Warisan Merdeka ---> potentially the tallest tower in KL 102 storeys (planning) Lot D1 KLCC (planning) Lot 91 KLCC Joint Venture Project (planning) ---> tallest luxury hotel? Lot 185 and Lot 165/K Joint Venture Project ---> potentially the top 3 tallest in KL with 77, 50+,35 storeys (planning) The Binjai Phase 2 @ KLCC (proposed) Aurora Tower @ KLCC (demolition) ---> iconic project Four Seasons Place Kuala Lumpur ---> 65 storeys (stalled) W Kuala Lumpur, The Hotel and The Residences ---> 50 storeys (approved) Redevelopment of Lai Meng School (proposed) Lot TA3 and Lot TA4 (future development) Wisma BSN Annexe (future development) The Regent Hotel and Residences Kuala Lumpur (stalled) Vertices Tower (proposed) Olympia Plaza (planning) ---> 50+ storeys OSK Annexe Tower & Refurbishment of Plaza OSK (planning) The Triplets @ KLCC, Jalan P Ramlee (proposed) ---> one of the tallest residences in KL? Holiday Villa Hotel & Suites KLCC (approved) Tradewinds Center/Redevelopment of Kompleks Antarabangsa (proposed) ---> one of the tallest tower in KL with 60, 55 storeys Redevelopment of Former Bangunan MAS ---> potentially the largest hotel in Malaysia with 700+ rooms (approved) The Ritz Corporate Suites & The Ritz-Carlton Residences (stalled) Menara Mulpha (future development) Menara YNH (approved) The Centrium Kuala Lumpur (proposed) Parkview Phase 2 @ Cecil Chao Centre (stalled) Sunway Tower KL 1 (proposed) Vision City Kuala Lumpur Phase 2/Quill 15 (stalled) Wisma MPL Annexe Tower (future development) Revival of the Former Grand Hyatt Duta Hotel (stalled) Dang Wangi Towers (proposed) Anggun, Jalan Sultan Ismail (stalled) Kia Peng Residences by MRCB (proposed) Ireka's Jalan Kia Peng Project (proposed) Bolton-UM Land's Jalan Mayang Project (future development) Serenia Condominium, Jalan Stonor (proposed) SKN Land's Jalan Yap Kwan Seng Project (future development) Jalan Yap Kwan Seng Hotel Project (planning) The Peak @ KLCC (stalled) Guocoland Malaysia's Changkat Kia Peng Project (proposed) Lidcol Garden Residences (proposed) Royce Residence, Jalan Yap Kwan Seng (proposed) The Puncak Baru Development, Kg Baru (future development) Mercu Zikay, Kg Baru (approved) Semarak Avenue (proposed) Gurney Avenue (proposed) VERVE Suites KLCC (proposed) Quantum Quest Kuala Lumpur (proposed) The Acadia/IMC Parkville (stalled) M Sentral @ Tamansari Riverside Garden City (planning) Eminent 213 Residential, Jalan Tun Razak (proposed) Hap Seng's Jalan Tun Razak Project (future development) Akisama Kuala Lumpur, Jalan Tun Razak (approved) FELCRA Towers, Jalan Semarak (planning) UEM Land's Jalan Semarak Mixed Development (planning) Plaza Rakyat (abandoned, pending revival scheme) ---> one of the tallest tower in KL with 79 storeys Gamuda Land's Jalan Pudu Project (future development) Bukit Bintang Commercial Centre/Redevelopment of Pudu Jail (planning) Mesui Serviced Apartment, Bukit Ceylon (proposed) MPHB's Golden Triangle Development (proposed) Bintang Plaza/next to Menara Keck Seng (proposed) Nova Square Bukit Bintang (future development) Tribeca, Jalan Imbi (future development) NAS Pavilion (abandoned, pending revival scheme) Lot F KL Sentral (future development) MRCB's Lorong Chan Ah Tong and Jalan Tun Sambanthan Parcel New Tradewinds Tower and refurbishment of Menara Tun Razak (approved) CapSquare North & South Towers and CapSquare Hotel (future development) M-City Jalan Ampang (approved) Mastika Ampang (proposed) Kondominium Rimbun, Embassy Row (planning) Gleneagles Kuala Lumpur Phase 2 (stalled) 51 Gurney (proposed) Latitude@Ampang (proposed) Ampang Towers (proposed) The Verandas, Jalan Ampang (proposed) Datum Jelatek (planning) Riana Green East Phase 2 and 3 (approved) This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 13 2011, 12:09 AM |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:02 AM
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There's no way to judge / predict Golden Era, just work your investment against your risk appetite vs opportunity cost and you will be fine, irregardless of property prices.
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Aug 13 2011, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Aug 12 2011, 11:49 PM) this is an open forum for everyone to express their own views. if one cannot take the heat in the kitchen, then please stay away from the kitchen yes, it may be related to politic or so but please dun spread hatred sentiments in this forum...Btw, who said property future is not related to politics? |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 11:53 PM) msia property is now headed for a slowdown. do you agree? takutnya.. now see this.... (courtesy Skyscrapercity Malaysia and created by Patchay.Com)  |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 11:53 PM) msia property is now headed for a slowdown. do you agree? Development has just begun.now see this.... (courtesy Skyscrapercity Malaysia and created by Patchay.Com) |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 13 2011, 12:20 AM) yes, it may be related to politic or so but please dun spread hatred sentiments in this forum... spread hatred sentiments??  pls read your own postings no 16 and 19 in this thread...like the kettle calling the pot black  |
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Aug 13 2011, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 13 2011, 12:25 AM) takutnya.. Bro.. I haven't included places like KL EcoCity (got 14 blocks), Bangsar South City (heard dat a twin 50-storeys being planned), etc etc. If you guys ask me about Msia's future, I think I just say refer to AirAsia. If AirAsia got future, Msia got future.  Anyway, even Bukit Jalil itself is congested isn't it? For now, I like this most:  JKR future headquarters now under massive construction. From Masjid Jamek, go to Jalan Parlimen. Bank Negara on your right and you could see the contruction there. Really hope the new owners of land in front of Pavilion continue with this:  KL's version of Rockefeller Center coming soon next year...  Have you guys seen the Sg Besi Air Force Base and RRIM masterplan... Pengsan liao. This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 13 2011, 01:26 AM |
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Aug 13 2011, 04:50 AM
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Mcm Abu daby ...
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Aug 13 2011, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(property101 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:30 AM) why does this decade belong to asia? if not Asia, where then? |
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Aug 13 2011, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 11:53 PM) msia property is now headed for a slowdown. do you agree? +1 now see this.... (courtesy Skyscrapercity Malaysia and created by Patchay.Com)  |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:23 AM
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by 2020, i foresee many new buildings will have high vacancy rate like in China now......thanks to the poor real estate demand and supply planning in maresia
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Aug 13 2011, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2011, 11:53 PM) msia property is now headed for a slowdown. do you agree? Slowdown is healthy, property cannot upward trend forever, need to slow down before accumulate momentum to move up again. now see this.... (courtesy Skyscrapercity Malaysia and created by Patchay.Com) will be more cautious if not slowdown.. continue upward trend will lead to 'bubble'. |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:20 PM
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Malaysia is a nice country to live. In fact we are far behind other developed countries already, the recent new mega developments shd hv been done many years back, all "come in once" create an impression that we are over developing, if these mega projects can be planned and delivered for stretch of 30 years gradually would be perfect (unfortunately 90% will be ready in 10-15 yrs time, too much for the mkt to digest)
Hopefully by 2030, bullet train fr China to Singapore can be materialized, by then my mother country would benefit a lot |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 13 2011, 12:20 PM) Malaysia is a nice country to live. In fact we are far behind other developed countries already, the recent new mega developments shd hv been done many years back, all "come in once" create an impression that we are over developing, if these mega projects can be planned and delivered for stretch of 30 years gradually would be perfect (unfortunately 90% will be ready in 10-15 yrs time, too much for the mkt to digest) Hopefully by 2030, bullet train fr China to Singapore can be materialized, by then my mother country would benefit a lot |
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Aug 13 2011, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 12:32 PM) as i said, if msia govt care about the nation economy/people living/earning , pls do something to lure investments and create "biz frenly" environment. msia will be much better than other SEA countries due to the reasons i mentioned earlier. ofcoz the hardcore islamist will not welcome the so called " biz frenly" environment. msia are in crossroad, to incresae income or remain holistic islam country. u can't increase income if you behave conservative.. many of my oversea biz fren complains Msia not "open" and they prefer to go phuket, bali, cebu, sentosa for holiday rather than langkawi, redang etc. even we m'sian also prefer to go there coz more "FUN" eg cheaper beer, hot shows at clubs, sun bathing (half nake?), nice massage etc . U cant expect the visitors to sleep in the hotel or blow wind 24 hours.. if msia can behave like thailand or at least as open as indonesia, i can guarantee u we msian income will increase 10x, better than Najib 2020 vision. I do believe what your forecast.let me share with you something, its unbelievable that 2 different people of my friends from Europe (one is British born Pakistan, another Switzerland born Spanish) have write me a message in facebook to ask me about the working condition in Malaysia, they have intention to work in Malaysia this is unthinkable before few years ago...now the trend is beginning to change. you just good to foresee this things may happening. But, our country has to overcome on policy which to attach more White brain drain then those Black labour. we just no that stage yet compare Singapore. so in the end, 2 of my friends just no work in here. |
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Aug 13 2011, 03:50 PM
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i would say it good for Asia to stand same standard as US and Euro nowaday. lo. i wish i got money to buy property in Melaka area as now the price is rising too in here.
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Aug 13 2011, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(beast_doadore @ Aug 13 2011, 12:46 PM) I do believe what your forecast. The world too much pamper the Western countries, especially the Americans, they are going to suffer, no surprise that for the next 50 years, angmo has to work for Chinese / Japanese / Korean, they are too lazy & wasting lots of product nature recklessly, it's pay back time let me share with you something, its unbelievable that 2 different people of my friends from Europe (one is British born Pakistan, another Switzerland born Spanish) have write me a message in facebook to ask me about the working condition in Malaysia, they have intention to work in Malaysia this is unthinkable before few years ago...now the trend is beginning to change. you just good to foresee this things may happening. But, our country has to overcome on policy which to attach more White brain drain then those Black labour. we just no that stage yet compare Singapore. so in the end, 2 of my friends just no work in here. History books taught me 1 thing, no forever Kingdom, it will fall one day, good luck BN! This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Aug 13 2011, 04:51 PM |
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Aug 13 2011, 11:23 PM
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Last time, AngMoh go to Kowloon and shop and buy luxury.
The Chinaman go to Paris to be washing plates slaves. Today, AngMoh go to Kowloon and shop and buy pirated DVDs and fake goods. The Chinaman go to Paris to shop for original LV, Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent, etc. DO you agree this is a good comparison of different times? Yes, times have changed. Malaysia is lucky to be in this "Growing and Booming" Asia. And we still can buy time as we have natural resources, which now Petronas say can last longer than expected.... QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 14 2011, 11:05 AM) The secondary market of homes will drop. This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 14 2011, 11:15 AMBut not the primary market, aka new launches. In fact, new homes will become more expensive than ever before, mostly due to inflation, land and construction costs, increase in wages and developers' profit margin. - KL home prices is now one of the cheapest in SouthEast Asia. Only Manila and KL still considered "dirt cheap" but Manila offering the highest yield in the region, ahead of only KL also. - Cities like Bangkok and Jakarta have surpassed us. Just count the no. of luxury stores will frighten you:) - As a city, KL has even drop behind 2nd tier China cities like Chongqing and way too cheap compared to Dubai, Mumbai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and even Hanoi! - Bear in mind, these cities generally have people of equal or lower purchasing power than KL, but of course, the middle-class population in KL is relatively small compared to these cities. - As KL moves up to become another global city from Asia, the property prices can only go up further.) |
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Aug 14 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 13 2011, 06:52 AM) if not Asia, where then? 19 Century = UK/Europe, 20 Century = US 21 Century = China/India/Asia However, Meresia need to change in order to catch up the globalization. Quite a good plan but need to execute it properly. Review the policy according to global. |
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Aug 15 2011, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 14 2011, 05:24 PM) 19 Century = UK/Europe, one more...20 Century = US 21 Century = China/India/Asia However, Meresia need to change in order to catch up the globalization. Quite a good plan but need to execute it properly. Review the policy according to global. 14th Century = Milisia (Milaka) PARAMESWARA!!!  |
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Aug 15 2011, 01:08 AM
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of course Asia ler, cause other had property bubble in their early/mid 2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_bubble |
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Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM
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I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party.....
Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly.... |
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Aug 15 2011, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly....  You're the first from many which I saw that support current regime  |
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Aug 15 2011, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(chrisw @ Aug 15 2011, 09:37 AM) You're the first from many which I saw that support current regime |
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Aug 15 2011, 12:17 PM
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there is an interesting article in bloomberg.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-14/h...surge-ends.html |
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Aug 15 2011, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly....  |
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Aug 15 2011, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... He is on the eyes of everybody, of course will do anything to perform , but how difficult to come out all this plan with peoples money? not yet mentioned more projects more money for colonies?Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly.... |
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Aug 15 2011, 02:13 PM
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To weed out his party political liabilities he might have to pay political price or there is possibility of losing his job as well. Look at ong tee Keat ... Where he is today. Not easy. I really hope Najib can do it and all of us will prosper !
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Aug 15 2011, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Aug 15 2011, 02:13 PM) To weed out his party political liabilities he might have to pay political price or there is possibility of losing his job as well. Look at ong tee Keat ... Where he is today. Not easy. I really hope Najib can do it and all of us will prosper ! True.. not easy.Look what happened to tunku & badawi. The party cannot change or it will revolt .. Najib started out with big speeches & positive vibe, but his recent speeches (to his own ppl) eg last umno general assembly is really chilling & inward looking. |
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Aug 15 2011, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... +1Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly.... It's a tough job when ppl keep on criticizing blindly anything anytime.. |
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Aug 15 2011, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... If you extend a copy to Utusan, they will put your article on front page the next day.Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly.... Very rare RED HOT news in his favour! |
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Aug 15 2011, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Aug 15 2011, 02:13 PM) To weed out his party political liabilities he might have to pay political price or there is possibility of losing his job as well. Look at ong tee Keat ... Where he is today. Not easy. I really hope Najib can do it and all of us will prosper ! Actually after his branding & re-packaging(1Maresia) is quite "sell-able", hopefully he would have enough passion & faith to do it or else he would become one of the liabilities.. |
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Aug 15 2011, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Aug 15 2011, 12:17 PM) there is an interesting article in bloomberg. so where will the china riches' $$ go? (u will be surprised how much $ the rich own. they always buy luxury items in CASH, pls take note China has very big market. (msia has no compare) u can earn lot of $ if u hv unique biz proposition, even the convenient store always full of customers. ie it is better to open a store in China vs KL. in fact every biz in china is better than msia. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-14/h...surge-ends.html 1st they attack sh, beijing, gz, sz prop (1st tier) then to china 2-3 tier cities eg dalian, chongqing, qingdao, chengdu etc then after china restrict prop buying (limit to oni 2,3 prop) they turn to HK, Singapore After HK, SG loss attractiveness, they will come to KL?? I have many China fren ask me to recommend klcc prop. |
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Aug 16 2011, 12:26 AM
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Just to note im not supporting any political parties or any politician for that matter.........and Im in the view all men turns evil once they are given power.
But credit should be given where its due.......to me he has done more things right than wrong ever since he has taken over.........the only better leader in this country as of now is probably Guan Eng.........the rest all really kenot pakai........... |
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Aug 16 2011, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 16 2011, 12:26 AM) Just to note im not supporting any political parties or any politician for that matter.........and Im in the view all men turns evil once they are given power. Well said QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 16 2011, 12:26 AM) But credit should be given where its due.......to me he has done more things right than wrong ever since he has taken over.........the only better leader in this country as of now is probably Guan Eng.........the rest all really kenot pakai........... Couldn't agree more, Penang is the most prosperous state at the moment..if I'm not wrong This post has been edited by chrisw: Aug 16 2011, 12:34 AM |
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Aug 16 2011, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 15 2011, 06:16 PM) so where will the china riches' $$ go? (u will be surprised how much $ the rich own. they always buy luxury items in CASH, pls take note China has very big market. (msia has no compare) u can earn lot of $ if u hv unique biz proposition, even the convenient store always full of customers. ie it is better to open a store in China vs KL. in fact every biz in china is better than msia. Once a leg makes it thro the door, the rest will follow. Ask them come faster .. 1st they attack sh, beijing, gz, sz prop (1st tier) then to china 2-3 tier cities eg dalian, chongqing, qingdao, chengdu etc then after china restrict prop buying (limit to oni 2,3 prop) they turn to HK, Singapore After HK, SG loss attractiveness, they will come to KL?? I have many China fren ask me to recommend klcc prop. Actually, their chinese students presence in local colleges quite a lot.. the 2nd highest of all countries. |
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Aug 16 2011, 10:42 AM
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Here is became a politicial talk...anyway, political is related to our social stabilization. yesterday, I just talk with my Spanish friends, their country is sound quite alike Asia, which is totally out of my expectation compare with just 3,4 years ago i've step in this lovely Spain even Europe. they just suffer on economic downturn. and all just suspect for the economic crisis is coming very soon...since the unemployment rate in Spain is 20% based on official data, but they do believe this is even more higher. and this is the 1st time that is happened riot after so many years and corruption even sound more serious then our lovely Malaysia.
I just cant imaging even Spain, Italy following by UK those leading countries is suffer on economic crisis and begin unstabilization...what about the rest even more weaker in Europe!?this is pity! I'm strongly believe this is the time for Asia ...its came true after 200 years! Malaysia is all depand on the politicial...PM Najid is in the right track but is he real capable to bring us to that stage or he just take care of his cronies...this is needed we seriously think about for our future! |
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Aug 16 2011, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(beast_doadore @ Aug 16 2011, 10:42 AM) PM Najid is in the right track but is he real capable to bring us to that stage or he just take care of his cronies...this is needed we seriously think about for our future! i think before we curious about his capability, we have to ask our self whether there are any better candidates? Anwar? do you think he's better? or Lim Guan eng? forget about him until he change his skin color. |
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Aug 16 2011, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Aug 16 2011, 11:00 AM) i think before we curious about his capability, we have to ask our self whether there are any better candidates? Anwar? do you think he's better? or Lim Guan eng? forget about him until he change his skin color. One durian confirm rotten, another got worm,I would rather try the later |
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Aug 16 2011, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 16 2011, 12:51 PM) One durian confirm rotten, another got worm, Wondering if there are many ppl have an adventurer-minded like you in real life, bro I would rather try the later To take risk, u ought to have a lots of faith, believe & passion in one self  |
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Aug 16 2011, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Aug 16 2011, 11:00 AM) i think before we curious about his capability, we have to ask our self whether there are any better candidates? Anwar? do you think he's better? or Lim Guan eng? forget about him until he change his skin color. if PM Najib can fair to treat everyone in the country he will automatically make the country more advance and sucess, is depand on his sincere and passion to running the country or else just bring us to Holland. Little Lim and Dato Anwar at least more clean then others... BN and PR only different in Grade B+ and B- |
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Aug 16 2011, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(beast_doadore @ Aug 16 2011, 04:48 PM) if PM Najib can fair to treat everyone in the country he will automatically make the country more advance and sucess, is depand on his sincere and passion to running the country or else just bring us to Holland. Who's in the grade A category? Little Lim and Dato Anwar at least more clean then others... BN and PR only different in Grade B+ and B- |
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Aug 16 2011, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(chrisw @ Aug 16 2011, 06:10 PM) Who's in the grade A category? Obama maybe, but if u ask american, most think he's in Category C Well i think China is A and in addition it's a communist country, don't even talk about human right or freedom of speech or democracy...Japan deserves to be in A category as well |
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Aug 16 2011, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(valve_300b @ Aug 16 2011, 07:00 PM) Obama maybe, but if u ask american, most think he's in Category C no need to think too far ..singapore ... Well i think China is A and in addition it's a communist country, don't even talk about human right or freedom of speech or democracy...Japan deserves to be in A category as well  This post has been edited by dlyw1103: Aug 16 2011, 07:15 PM |
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Aug 16 2011, 08:21 PM
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the battle is not over yet, the most killing part for Singapore is "NO LAND", and Lee Kuan Yew kenot shift Singapore to US / China... LKY is a wise man, he knows very well, for the next 1000 years, they will still stick closely to Islamic countries, this make their leaders kenot sleep peacefully at nite.
Sometimes when I look at this little kacang Singa land, even smaller than Perlis and Melaka.... sigh |
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Aug 16 2011, 10:12 PM
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Errr....I mean in Maresia wor..Obama planning to migrate?
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Aug 17 2011, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 11 2011, 11:27 PM) Read few articles about property investment in Malaysia. Too difficult to say at this moment since things are very unsure in the world and also here.The next 10 years will be the golden era for property investment in Malaysia. It is no longer the same as in the past, as it is changing fast, and has become commercialised, globalised and professionalised. What do you think? |
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Aug 21 2011, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(prody @ Aug 17 2011, 01:02 PM) Too difficult to say at this moment since things are very unsure in the world and also here. I have the same opinion. While I agree that the next 10 years belongs to Asia, the world economy globalisation is happening with every minute. Weakness in US and debt problems in Europe are things to watch out for. We are still a small nation compared to the world and are still relying on FDI for growth (even though we are more prepared now with lessons learnt from 1997 crisis). I reckon a fracture in the world economy is still going to hit us. Still remember the time when BLR went up to double digit. Just a word of caution and not trying to pour cold water. Open for thoughts. |
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Aug 21 2011, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: You'd have to prove all of that first.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! |
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Aug 21 2011, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 15 2011, 07:50 AM) I actually have a bit more faith on Najib's administration.....he has made the right initiatives and hired the right guys for the important jobs......but he will need time to weed out political liabilities in his party..... Najib doesn't even have the support of his DPM and many of the UMNO power brokers, let alone weed out any liabilities.Once that happens, watch the country and its prop market fly.... |
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Aug 21 2011, 10:19 PM
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time will tell. Especially these few years.
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Aug 21 2011, 10:24 PM
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Residential landed homes in very selected areas will remain highly desirable and thus have the greatest capital appreciation for the foreseeable future i.e. Desa Park City, Damansara Heights, Bangsar Baru, TTDI, etc.
The rest of the second-tier and lower end properties will continue to stagnate => this will be the only properties the average joe in Malaysia will be able to afford. This post has been edited by bellion: Aug 21 2011, 10:25 PM |
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Aug 22 2011, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 21 2011, 10:08 PM) Najib doesn't even have the support of his DPM and many of the UMNO power brokers, let alone weed out any liabilities. Am not into politics so not gonna pretend I know much...........so bellion u vested in 1st tier residential landed props? |
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Aug 22 2011, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 21 2011, 10:24 PM) Residential landed homes in very selected areas will remain highly desirable and thus have the greatest capital appreciation for the foreseeable future i.e. Desa Park City, Damansara Heights, Bangsar Baru, TTDI, etc. what else are the "very selected areas"? The rest of the second-tier and lower end properties will continue to stagnate => this will be the only properties the average joe in Malaysia will be able to afford. |
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Aug 22 2011, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 22 2011, 09:41 PM) Am not into politics so not gonna pretend I know much........... I am pretty involved in the SME community hence my take on the political implications on the business scene in Malaysia.so bellion u vested in 1st tier residential landed props? Yes, I still have a house for investment purposes in the klang valley although I concentrate more on overseas properties. Added on August 22, 2011, 10:54 pm QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Aug 22 2011, 10:21 PM) what else are the "very selected areas"? iproperty or an active malaysian property forum would be a good starting point for you.This post has been edited by bellion: Aug 22 2011, 10:54 PM |
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Aug 22 2011, 10:58 PM
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oh really? Thanks for the tips....sorry, I'm new at this....
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Aug 22 2011, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Aug 22 2011, 10:58 PM) oh really? Thanks for the tips....sorry, I'm new at this.... |
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Aug 22 2011, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 22 2011, 10:53 PM) I am pretty involved in the SME community hence my take on the political implications on the business scene in Malaysia. Ah that explains a lots......... Yes, I still have a house for investment purposes in the klang valley although I concentrate more on overseas properties. Added on August 22, 2011, 10:54 pm iproperty or an active malaysian property forum would be a good starting point for you. hmmm you must have had plenty of bullets to play with........... Added on August 22, 2011, 11:40 pm QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Aug 22 2011, 10:58 PM) oh really? Thanks for the tips....sorry, I'm new at this.... adik newbie...........pls main jauh2 ...................*joking and minta ampun *bro pls stop being a PIGER here.........a humble prop tycoon is just.................AINT YOU This post has been edited by Pai: Aug 22 2011, 11:40 PM |
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Aug 23 2011, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Aug 22 2011, 11:38 PM) Ah that explains a lots......... I assure you that I am merely a small-time property investor with limited bullets to spare. hmmm you must have had plenty of bullets to play with........... |
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Oct 29 2012, 06:59 PM
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At present time property market is at its peek point. These days many people want to buy and sell their property and in this real estate companies are doing great job.
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Oct 29 2012, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Aug 12 2011, 12:52 PM) u know ang moh, japanese, korean, taiwanese, chinese like to go pub, bar, ktv etc, it will be no fun with so many raid (JAIS, police etc) ,. today no new licence (and renewal) was issued in KV. most of them are operating illegally.. (how safe do u think), no profer fire safety, ventilation etc, even the renovation is also koyak coz the boss act hit and run strategy, no one will spend $$ to renovate nice decor. (also affect ID, contractor, furnishing income). all my oversea fren look down on our nite entertainment coz it is so run down and not safe. today our niteclubs are worse than 20 years ago eg deluxe, bintang palace are so run down. coz the boss know it is not "permanent". Even our genting also look so old... all my oversea fren laughed at me after they compare to Sg, Macau, Cambodia, Vietnam, Phil 's casino.. so now u know why less jap, angmo come to KL?? it is ok for bangla, pakistan, indian, middle east coz they dun go to bars (they oni go to mamak stalls and spend rm2 whole nite).. so how to contribute to msia economy? i also noticed kl shops are closed earlier (except mamak stalls) and not many ppl like to go out, unlike 20-30 years ago --all nite long!! Actually i m agreed wiyh you as i m frequent traveler too... :-)Added on August 12, 2011, 1:04 pm u still live like katak bawah tempurung?? did u go often to BKK, Jakarta and survey? (i m frequent there) their GDP per capita lower than msia doesnt mean they are poorer (their rich pop is much bigger than msia) oni their total population is big (indo is 100x msia) so it appear to be poorer. same as China, no one dare to say China is poor, even the angmo (but their per capital is lower than msia). to be more open like china will make msia more properous! if not, msia will become....(u know i know lah) if u complain u cant afford a house why not complain the govt are so conservative?? Added on August 12, 2011, 1:56 pm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « if u changed the criteria the ranking is different liao * mean not enough data... Added on October 29, 2012, 8:23 pm QUOTE(shroom @ Aug 12 2011, 06:48 PM) -Retail industry sales droping year after year which indicates consumer is no longer able to afford spending as much. May be we should look at all industries..... A = up, B = down but if A = down believed B = will up..... Personal point of view..... Hahaha... :-)Added on August 12, 2011, 6:51 pm At times is not about being positive, its about being realistic. This post has been edited by FlyingJoy: Oct 29 2012, 08:23 PM |
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Oct 29 2012, 09:40 PM
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Golden 10 years!
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Oct 29 2012, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(joshef @ Oct 29 2012, 06:59 PM) At present time property market is at its peek point. These days many people want to buy and sell their property and in this real estate companies are doing great job. I heard from an agent, not much transaction recently. Market is slowing down for sub sale...any comment is welcomed.. |
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Oct 30 2012, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(alwyn75 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:31 PM) I heard from an agent, not much transaction recently. Market is slowing down for sub sale...any comment is welcomed.. New launch doing ok mah...Subsale slow coz most ppl can't even pay the 10% dp for current asking prices, and then there's other fees and repairs etc... So buyers should focus on new launch and forget about subsales... |
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Oct 30 2012, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(alwyn75 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:31 PM) I heard from an agent, not much transaction recently. Market is slowing down for sub sale...any comment is welcomed.. It's normal. No desperate seller too, prices are still holding good.This post has been edited by ecin: Oct 30 2012, 09:38 AM |
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Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Oct 30 2012, 07:55 AM) New launch doing ok mah... Subsale slow coz most ppl can't even pay the 10% dp for current asking prices, and then there's other fees and repairs etc... So buyers should focus on new launch and forget about subsales... if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged? if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP? so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game. |
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Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM) if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged? Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low.if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP? so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game. |
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Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM) Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low. that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only.if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable. furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now. |
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Oct 30 2012, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 11:39 AM) Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low. dangerous la.foreigner will just "fire sell supper cheap" when there is a crash. Just see what it does to dubai hot money during 2007-2008 |
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Oct 30 2012, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM) that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only. So, both ways also die if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable. furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now.  haha then how a? |
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Oct 30 2012, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM) that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only. Untapped market. Foreigners have not yet realized this hidden gem and huge potential gain for our properties yet. if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable. furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now. Exhaust of local buyers, we flip to foreigners. Afterall they need to park their money as well right? Which other place is better to park their money than Malaysian properties? Experts also say we will outperform Hong Kong property prices by 2020. With all the infrastructures in placed, we will attract a lot more FDI into our country, further push up the property prices. |
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Oct 30 2012, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 03:40 PM) Untapped market. Foreigners have not yet realized this hidden gem and huge potential gain for our properties yet. warren buffett said invest in America's property is much much better than throw money in Malaysia. haha. Exhaust of local buyers, we flip to foreigners. Afterall they need to park their money as well right? Which other place is better to park their money than Malaysian properties? Experts also say we will outperform Hong Kong property prices by 2020. With all the infrastructures in placed, we will attract a lot more FDI into our country, further push up the property prices. Donal trump has make the same comment as well... This post has been edited by Nikmon: Oct 30 2012, 05:52 PM |
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Oct 30 2012, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Oct 30 2012, 04:01 PM) warrant buffer said invest in America's property is much much better than throw money in Malaysia. haha. True or not? Didn't know Malaysian property market also caught their attention.Donal trump has make the same comment as well... Some say put in FD is like flushing money down the toilet as Federal Reserve keep on printing. your RM100k will be worth only RM50k few years down the road. |
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Oct 30 2012, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 04:07 PM) True or not? Didn't know Malaysian property market also caught their attention. Investment options are not limited to FD and properties. Doesnt always have to be FD vs Property, and each option also has its own merit depending on the situation. Now the interest rate is low, but that doesnt mean it's going to stay low forever.Some say put in FD is like flushing money down the toilet as Federal Reserve keep on printing. your RM100k will be worth only RM50k few years down the road. In the event of hyper-inflation, yeah, 100k today worth 50k in few years time. But when that happen, the profit of 100k from properties also worth 50k only.. or worse, the price increase is lower than FD rates.. always can go both ways. Ask the Japanese whether property will ALWAYS goes up or not. History is a good teacher, but we are bad students. |
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Oct 30 2012, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 05:43 PM) Investment options are not limited to FD and properties. Doesnt always have to be FD vs Property, and each option also has its own merit depending on the situation. Now the interest rate is low, but that doesnt mean it's going to stay low forever. Japan properties price is way higher than ours xxxxxxxxxxxlol even though it drops. In the event of hyper-inflation, yeah, 100k today worth 50k in few years time. But when that happen, the profit of 100k from properties also worth 50k only.. or worse, the price increase is lower than FD rates.. always can go both ways. Ask the Japanese whether property will ALWAYS goes up or not. History is a good teacher, but we are bad students. that's why they japanese invest in global market include msia. ps - history is a good teacher you're right. That's why we should invest more properties in msia. This post has been edited by kh8668: Oct 30 2012, 06:19 PM |
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Mar 17 2013, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM) if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged? I think it is a unique situation in Malaysia only.if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP? so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game. These buyers will all snap up new launches even at ridiculous prices but nobody seems interested in subsale. I forsee a situation where newlaunch will be priced higher and higher while subsale prices will fall. Until it reach a gap so wide between newlaunch and subsale that the average blind and gungho investors start moderating their buying of new launched properties |
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Mar 17 2013, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(sheet storm kambing @ Mar 17 2013, 08:05 PM) very interesting point of view. usually people see an upward trending correlation between new launch prices and sub sale prices. Products are different from 3 years ago in term of designs, material quality, facade, facilities, and so on. Coordinate is also different |
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Mar 17 2013, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(sheet storm kambing @ Mar 17 2013, 08:14 PM) maybe its a Gen Y thing , but i wouldn't mind having an outdated facade if it means paying 20% lower than the new launches. Lol chill. The world is changing, everyday.but then again.... im not gen y. |
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Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM
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No doubt... the Gen Y is always demanding for new products. Whether it is the latest Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini or the latest Duplex SOFO.
My generation of "Gen Y version 2" (below 25 y/o) is even worst. This post has been edited by accetera: Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM |
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Mar 17 2013, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM) No doubt... the Gen Y is always demanding for new products. Whether it is the latest Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini or the latest Duplex SOFO. I highly doubt a 400k duplex and a Galaxy s3 is the same thing. My generation of "Gen Y version 2" (below 25 y/o) is even worst. |
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Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM
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Disagree.
Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end..... QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 11 2011, 11:27 PM) Read few articles about property investment in Malaysia. The next 10 years will be the golden era for property investment in Malaysia. It is no longer the same as in the past, as it is changing fast, and has become commercialised, globalised and professionalised. What do you think? |
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Mar 17 2013, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Mar 17 2013, 08:26 PM) I think it is a unique situation in Malaysia only. trying to sell my house now but so far seems difficult, even though fully furnished so buyers can save a lot on cash compared to properties such as Kinrara Residence nearbyThese buyers will all snap up new launches even at ridiculous prices but nobody seems interested in subsale. I forsee a situation where newlaunch will be priced higher and higher while subsale prices will fall. Until it reach a gap so wide between newlaunch and subsale that the average blind and gungho investors start moderating their buying of new launched properties for 1m property, new only need to pay downpayment for 50k cash subsale fully furnished need to pay 100k down, legal fees, mot, maybe total 50k, total 150k cash subsale unfurnished need to add another 100k for furnishing, total 250k cash |
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Mar 18 2013, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM) Disagree. Market need to soften or stagnant or drop a bit for a while, keep the momentum for next wave. Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end..... btw, I more opt for mid to long term, for rental income, no so on flipping. |
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Mar 19 2013, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM) Disagree. For Iskandar, the bull run has only recently started. It should last another 2-3 years if there is no government intervention Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end.....  |
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Jul 16 2014, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM) If I tell u that: Now is 3 years after your response, it happen?? those who invest in 2011 already made handsome ROI.-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one. -Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia. -Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire. -Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ. -50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant. Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?! |
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Jul 16 2014, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Jul 16 2014, 12:20 AM) Now is 3 years after your response, it happen?? those who invest in 2011 already made handsome ROI. ya the guy wrote some rubbish to excite DDD crowd. |
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Jul 16 2014, 04:19 PM
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Another way to curb flippers or the easy entrance is for the govt to force the purchasers to pay the MOT stamp duty upfront regardless whether vp has been delivered.
Then the purchasers will be more careful when buying. A million property will costs additional 24K for new launch. |
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Jul 16 2014, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(me_1980s @ Jul 16 2014, 04:19 PM) Another way to curb flippers or the easy entrance is for the govt to force the purchasers to pay the MOT stamp duty upfront regardless whether vp has been delivered. Gotta a better idea those BBB actively play lyn stamp duty 150% upfront.. hahaThen the purchasers will be more careful when buying. A million property will costs additional 24K for new launch. |
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Nov 20 2014, 11:45 PM
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Look like slow down now, will golden era golden, any prediction?
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Nov 21 2014, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(SaProp @ Nov 20 2014, 11:45 PM) Look like slow down now, will golden era golden, any prediction? slow down but still plenty of money to be made |
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Nov 21 2014, 04:11 AM
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Now waiting for correction and contraction.
My most bully golden year is yet to come |
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Nov 21 2014, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Nov 21 2014, 04:11 AM) Now waiting for correction and contraction. not a bad return for me at initial golden year, will continue search for more good value buy.My most bully golden year is yet to come |
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Nov 21 2014, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Jul 16 2014, 02:20 PM) Now is 3 years after your response, it happen?? those who invest in 2011 already made handsome ROI. I call them cowardDare to predict but no balls to apologize wrong prediction M still waiting for the old gold fella to return He dare not facing me |
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Nov 21 2014, 10:35 AM
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gold down, rubber down, palm oil down, rm down, oil down ... hmmm
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Nov 21 2014, 10:41 AM
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Year 2004 to 2023 belong to earth, any business associated with earth such as property, memorial park, fengshui sure ong. There are some correction during these 20 years but will be short.
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Nov 21 2014, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(katijar @ Nov 20 2014, 08:35 PM) gold down, rubber down, palm oil down, rm down, oil down ... hmmm Equities down high end props down |
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Nov 21 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 21 2014, 10:54 AM) Equities down heartbeat up .. blood pressure up .. whole night up... high end props down |
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Nov 21 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(katijar @ Nov 21 2014, 11:06 AM) heartbeat up .. blood pressure up .. whole night up... Gold down, Silver down, property slow down, inflation up up up, follow up, all expenses up up up |
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Nov 21 2014, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(tnang @ Nov 21 2014, 11:10 AM) Gold down, Silver down, property slow down, inflation up up up, follow up, all expenses up up up one more thing ... corporate net profit also down... |
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