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Investment Malaysia Property Golden Era 2010 - 2020

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post Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Oct 30 2012, 07:55 AM)
New launch doing ok mah...

Subsale slow coz most ppl can't even pay the 10% dp for current asking prices, and then there's other fees and repairs etc...

So buyers should focus on new launch and forget about subsales...
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if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged?
if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP?
so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game.
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post Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM)
if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged?
if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP?
so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game.
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Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low.

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post Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM)
Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low.
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that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only.
if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable.
furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now.
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 11:39 AM)
Foreigners from Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Middle east and Africa. Malaysian property is still very cheap. Only problem is that local pay is too low.
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dangerous la.

foreigner will just "fire sell supper cheap" when there is a crash.

Just see what it does to dubai hot money during 2007-2008
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM)
that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only.
if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable.
furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now.
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So, both ways also die laugh.gif haha biggrin.gif then how a?
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post Oct 30 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 11:49 AM)
that is a very big gamble.. official statistic showed only 2% property in Malaysia are owned by foreigners. in kl and in probably 10 to 20% only.
if locals demand is not in there, the sector will not be sustainable.
furthermore, if foreign demand is so strong, klcc area properties would not have experienced a price slump like now.
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Untapped market. Foreigners have not yet realized this hidden gem and huge potential gain for our properties yet. tongue.gif

Exhaust of local buyers, we flip to foreigners. Afterall they need to park their money as well right? Which other place is better to park their money than Malaysian properties? Experts also say we will outperform Hong Kong property prices by 2020. With all the infrastructures in placed, we will attract a lot more FDI into our country, further push up the property prices.
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post Oct 30 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 03:40 PM)
Untapped market. Foreigners have not yet realized this hidden gem and huge potential gain for our properties yet. tongue.gif

Exhaust of local buyers, we flip to foreigners. Afterall they need to park their money as well right? Which other place is better to park their money than Malaysian properties? Experts also say we will outperform Hong Kong property prices by 2020. With all the infrastructures in placed, we will attract a lot more FDI into our country, further push up the property prices.
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warren buffett said invest in America's property is much much better than throw money in Malaysia. haha.

Donal trump has make the same comment as well...

This post has been edited by Nikmon: Oct 30 2012, 05:52 PM
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post Oct 30 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Oct 30 2012, 04:01 PM)
warrant buffer said invest in America's property is much much better than throw money in Malaysia. haha.

Donal trump has make the same comment as well...
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True or not? Didn't know Malaysian property market also caught their attention.
Some say put in FD is like flushing money down the toilet as Federal Reserve keep on printing. your RM100k will be worth only RM50k few years down the road.
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 30 2012, 04:07 PM)
True or not? Didn't know Malaysian property market also caught their attention.
Some say put in FD is like flushing money down the toilet as Federal Reserve keep on printing. your RM100k will be worth only RM50k few years down the road.
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Investment options are not limited to FD and properties. Doesnt always have to be FD vs Property, and each option also has its own merit depending on the situation. Now the interest rate is low, but that doesnt mean it's going to stay low forever.

In the event of hyper-inflation, yeah, 100k today worth 50k in few years time. But when that happen, the profit of 100k from properties also worth 50k only.. or worse, the price increase is lower than FD rates.. always can go both ways.

Ask the Japanese whether property will ALWAYS goes up or not. smile.gif
History is a good teacher, but we are bad students.

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post Oct 30 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 05:43 PM)
Investment options are not limited to FD and properties. Doesnt always have to be FD vs Property, and each option also has its own merit depending on the situation. Now the interest rate is low, but that doesnt mean it's going to stay low forever.

In the event of hyper-inflation, yeah, 100k today worth 50k in few years time. But when that happen, the profit of 100k from properties also worth 50k only.. or worse, the price increase is lower than FD rates.. always can go both ways.

Ask the Japanese whether property will ALWAYS goes up or not. smile.gif
History is a good teacher, but we are bad students.
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Japan properties price is way higher than ours xxxxxxxxxxxlol even though it drops. tongue.gif

that's why they japanese invest in global market include msia. biggrin.gif

ps - history is a good teacher thumbup.gif you're right. That's why we should invest more properties in msia. laugh.gif

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post Mar 17 2013, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 AM)
if ppl can't even afford 10%, doesn't that means either the propert prices already too high, or the buyers are too leveraged?
if subsales market is stagnant, who will buy from those flippers after VP?
so looks like there is going to be a price adjustment, or it s gonna be a long long holding game.
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I think it is a unique situation in Malaysia only.
These buyers will all snap up new launches even at ridiculous prices but nobody seems interested in subsale.
I forsee a situation where newlaunch will be priced higher and higher while subsale prices will fall.
Until it reach a gap so wide between newlaunch and subsale that the average blind and gungho investors start moderating their buying of new launched properties
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post Mar 17 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(sheet storm kambing @ Mar 17 2013, 08:05 PM)
very interesting point of view. usually people see an upward trending correlation between new launch prices and sub sale prices.
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Products are different from 3 years ago in term of designs, material quality, facade, facilities, and so on.

Coordinate is also different wink.gif




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post Mar 17 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(sheet storm kambing @ Mar 17 2013, 08:14 PM)
maybe its a Gen Y thing , but i wouldn't mind having an outdated facade if it means paying 20% lower than the new launches.

but then again.... im not gen y.
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Lol chill. The world is changing, everyday.
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No doubt... the Gen Y is always demanding for new products. Whether it is the latest Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini or the latest Duplex SOFO.

My generation of "Gen Y version 2" (below 25 y/o) is even worst.

This post has been edited by accetera: Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Mar 17 2013, 08:42 PM)
No doubt... the Gen Y is always demanding for new products. Whether it is the latest Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini or the latest Duplex SOFO.

My generation of "Gen Y version 2" (below 25 y/o) is even worst.
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I highly doubt a 400k duplex and a Galaxy s3 is the same thing. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM

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Disagree.

Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end.....


QUOTE(tnang @ Aug 11 2011, 11:27 PM)
Read few articles about property investment in Malaysia.

The next 10 years will be the golden era for property investment in Malaysia. It is no longer the same as in the past, as it is changing fast, and has become commercialised, globalised and professionalised.

What do you think?
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post Mar 17 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Mar 17 2013, 08:26 PM)
I think it is a unique situation in Malaysia only.
These buyers will all snap up new launches even at ridiculous prices but nobody seems interested in subsale.
I forsee a situation where newlaunch will be priced higher and higher while subsale prices will fall.
Until it reach a gap so wide between newlaunch and subsale that the average blind and gungho investors start moderating their buying of new launched properties
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trying to sell my house now but so far seems difficult, even though fully furnished so buyers can save a lot on cash compared to properties such as Kinrara Residence nearby

for 1m property, new only need to pay downpayment for 50k cash
subsale fully furnished need to pay 100k down, legal fees, mot, maybe total 50k, total 150k cash
subsale unfurnished need to add another 100k for furnishing, total 250k cash
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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM)
Disagree.

Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end.....
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Market need to soften or stagnant or drop a bit for a while, keep the momentum for next wave.

btw, I more opt for mid to long term, for rental income, no so on flipping.
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post Mar 19 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 17 2013, 10:15 PM)
Disagree.

Malaysia property golden year is now but almost end.....
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For Iskandar, the bull run has only recently started. It should last another 2-3 years if there is no government intervention shocking.gif
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 11 2011, 11:51 PM)
If I tell u that:
-Local owned factories shutting down one-by-one.
-Foreign corp cutting production or shifting production out of M'sia.
-Old farmers selling their land, cashing the gain & retire.
-Manager grade income cannot afford a double storey link house in KL/PJ.
-50% of the high-end condos in KL are vacant.

Would u still believe the next 10 yrs M'sia property/economy will boom?!
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Now is 3 years after your response, it happen?? those who invest in 2011 already made handsome ROI.

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