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SKY 1809
post Aug 2 2012, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 06:43 PM)
Risk management?
Nothing 100% sure mar (other than death & taxes.. but i heard taxes can be erm.. and death kept a bit at bay if... tongue.gif)

BNM/SC? er.. bro, SG ada it's own versions leh.
Earthquakes - er.. i'm just bad and assUme-ing the management is dumb enough to be insured for floods & earthquake.

Sorry ar - i don't do "fine comb tooth" investing where i must know the insurances and whatnot of a company in detail.  notworthy.gif
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Insurance coverages could be very expensive to a point perhaps it to better be self insured.

Items Like a handphones , tablets , generator sets in open area and what not shakehead.gif

Earthquake Ins is likely not cheaper than PA.

Any Earthquake coverages for Japanese Nuclear Plants hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 06:47 PM)
Insurance coverages could be very expensive to a point to be self insured.

Items Like a handpones and tablets and what not  shakehead.gif

Earthquake Ins is likely not cheaper than PA.
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er.. U lost me bro rclxub.gif
What are U getting at?
Back to the old "self insure" thinggy again?
OR something to do with REITs?


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 06:49 PM)
er.. U lost me bro rclxub.gif
What are U getting at?
Back to the old "self insure" thinggy again?
OR something to do with REITs?
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Insurance coverage is always an imp part of the reits management mar.

Why u want to run away from IT hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 06:52 PM)
Insurance coverage  is always an  imp part of the reits management mar.

Why u want to run away from IT hmm.gif
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Good lord hehe - i'm seriously lost on what U are talking about.
Run away from IT? run from what?
U mean to tell me U personally know your invested companies' insurances and coverages in detail? shocking.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 06:54 PM)
Good lord hehe - i'm seriously lost on what U are talking about.
Run away from IT? run from what?
U mean to tell me U personally know your invested companies' insurances and coverages in detail?  shocking.gif
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My ones all are in Malaysia, generally got fire and some might be covered for floods.

I do not think they need to be covered by Earthquakes or nuclear disasters. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 07:00 PM)
My ones all are  in Malaysia, generally got fire and some might be covered for floods.

I do not think they need to be covered by Earthquakes or  nuclear disasters.  hmm.gif
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Good for U then. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 07:05 PM)
Good for U then.  rclxms.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM

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Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM)
Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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Me - after SGX, i'm still waiting for EquitiesTracker on AU / ASX data + still searching for some useful historical track records. At this rate, dunno when i'll be prepared enough to even sniff at A-REITs cry.gif

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AmAsia Pacific REITs.

Anyone invest in this?

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM)
Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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few years back we can get more than 7%..now with the price increased - cannot anymore wink.gif ...


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post Aug 3 2012, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 09:48 PM)
Me - after SGX, i'm still waiting for EquitiesTracker on AU / ASX data + still searching for some useful historical track records. At this rate, dunno when i'll be prepared enough to even sniff at A-REITs  cry.gif
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Its perplexing at this e-age we cant easily find data for any xchange! blink.gif

But i think the returns on AReits may not be so nice compared with SG


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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Aug 2 2012, 10:15 PM)
few years back we can get more than 7%..now with the price increased - cannot anymore  wink.gif ...
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Few years ago i am getting 14% yield for my Panamy! biggrin.gif

But as i have mentioned i am in SReits because some of the yeilds are still around 8%, NET....unlike MReits, thers
still 10% tax.....our gomen luvs their taxes! mad.gif

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post Aug 3 2012, 12:05 PM

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Earthquake = frequent tremor from our neighbor

Nuclear = from our 1malaysia Lynas plant , u not anywhere near Pahang/Kelantan right?


QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 07:00 PM)
My ones all are  in Malaysia, generally got fire and some might be covered for floods.

I do not think they need to be covered by Earthquakes or  nuclear disasters.  hmm.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM)
Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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S-reit is tax free? Wow.

If Cherroy is reading this, I'd like to hear your comment, since you are M-Reit Collectors, do you buy S-Reit as well? If you don't, why?

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 3 2012, 12:23 PM)
S-reit is tax free? Wow.

If Cherroy is reading this, I'd like to hear your comment, since you are M-Reit Collectors, do you buy S-Reit as well? If you don't, why?
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Just a clarification - S-REIT tax free for NON-RESIDENT only. Similar with A-REIT drool.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 3 2012, 12:24 PM)
Just a clarification - S-REIT tax free for NON-RESIDENT only. Similar with A-REIT  drool.gif
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I see. Yeah Good for us Malaysian then.
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post Aug 3 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 3 2012, 12:24 PM)
Just a clarification - S-REIT tax free for NON-RESIDENT only. Similar with A-REIT  drool.gif
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i think distributions from SReits re tax exempted for INDIVIDuals.

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REIT distributions out of rental income: individuals tax free, foreign corporates corporates taxed at 10% WHT and taxed local corporatescorporates20%


http://www.gf.com.au/Pieter_de_Ridder_Asia.pdf
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM)
Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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I am interested in investing in S-REITS.. can u share with me how to do it?
U are right..should diversify.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 3 2012, 01:13 PM)
I am interested in investing in S-REITS.. can u share with me how to do it?
U are right..should diversify.
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get a stock broker who does cross border trading.

As for SREits info....here

http://sreit.reitdata.com/

http://sreitinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/11/...dpu-and_13.html


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 3 2012, 12:53 PM)
wongsifu

i think distributions from SReits re tax exempted for INDIVIDuals.
http://www.gf.com.au/Pieter_de_Ridder_Asia.pdf
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Hhehe - whoops notworthy.gif .
Thou art right - thanks for clearing it up.
Additional ref:
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/1897541-...singapore-reits
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I lumped up everything i saw on my broker's "cost sheet". My bad
Hm.. based on what i just looked up, OZ ada tax wor, albeit only 10% withholding tax.
Gotta go poke my broker.

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