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TSMercedes
post Aug 9 2011, 05:11 PM, updated 15y ago

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I think EE is the most suitable sub-forum for this thread which is created specially for LYN forumers who wish to enquire regarding the proper use of the English Language (UK and not American). The incorrect use of the English Language by forumers is so rampant all over the forum and it is especially sad to read it here in EE where most topics and comments are created and posted by undergraduates.

This is not a “look-down” thread on forumers who honestly seek to improve their command of the English Language, or a “boost-up ego” thread for the sincere Grammar Nazi.

So, any forumers who wish to clarify and learn the usage of the English Language, with its nouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, punctuations, conjunctions, tenses, singular/plural, masculine/feminine, synonyms, collective nouns, etc, please come and participate and we can all learn together.

I do not profess myself to be a grammar nazi, so all sincere LYN Grammar Nazis who wish to assist are most welcome to contribute.

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post Aug 9 2011, 07:06 PM

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Personally, I don't think this will work. It's not that their English is not good, just that they don't think they should spend their "precious" proper English on the wild internet. In another words, the habit of using proper English anywhere is not instilled into the minds of Malaysians.
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Good effort.

This may be a place for those who would want to improve and one way of improving is by typing properly, regardless of whether it's online or offline.


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post Aug 9 2011, 07:29 PM

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TS, American English too has the standing as UK English. So why not let this thread open to both usages? They're almost similar only different in certain aspects, besides, we can more diverse and have a broad thinking if we're exposed to two or more of those English. smile.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 08:08 PM

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I always had a problem with who whom whose
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post Aug 9 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Aug 9 2011, 08:08 PM)
I always had a problem with who whom whose
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from my understanding:
whom-to whom were you talking to yesterday?
whose-whose bag is this?
any correction is greatly appreciated. biggrin.gif

btw,how and when to use "have had"?FYI,im not talking about past and present tense. hmm.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Aug 9 2011, 08:08 PM)
I always had a problem with who whom whose
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You're wrong .

Always remember that after
who, always follows by a verb
whom, always follows by a pronoun[I,you,he,she.....]
whose, follows by a noun




'Have you had your dinner yet ?'

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post Aug 9 2011, 09:52 PM

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Yes I had had my dinner.
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post Aug 9 2011, 10:15 PM

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Give me an example of grammar nazi on this forum.. I've not encountered any, all moderate, except one who went up to the point of opening a thread on it. That title is relative, and relativity somehow never points to ourselves.
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:25 AM

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American nt even speak in proper english and follow on the grammar during speaking.I'm a chinese and i speak mandarin but i don't even follow the rules or as to say grammar of mandarin to speak , if i do that i will become a slow speaker
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:44 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 9 2011, 09:52 PM)
Yes I had had my dinner.
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Sounds wrong but right at the same time ? unsure.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 9 2011, 09:52 PM)
Yes I had had my dinner.
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I think it should be "Yes I have had my dinner" no?
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QUOTE(tendousidek @ Aug 10 2011, 09:40 AM)
I think it should be "Yes I have had my dinner" no?
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You are right, the present perfect tense is more appropriate.

You don't normally use the past perfect tense (had had) unless you are talking about the 'past within the past' or you wish to refer to an earlier event at a point in time in the past.
'You had had your dinner when I asked you yesterday'.
But when I asked now, you say 'I have had my dinner'.(present perfect).

I find it so common for people to keep making the same mistakes in grammar without them realising it because there is nobody to tell them about it.
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:19 PM

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Thanks for opening the thread smile.gif How about this sentence?

"I don't think other brands sells shirts that fits me."

Am I using the plural form correctly? There seem to be too much "s" in it


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post Aug 10 2011, 12:41 PM

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should be just sell instead of sells
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Aug 9 2011, 07:24 PM)
Good effort. 

This may be a place for those who would want to improve and one way of improving is by typing properly, regardless of whether it's online or offline.
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Thanks for the encouragement. If this thread garners active participation by LYN forumers, maybe you can consider having it pinned? smile.gif

QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Aug 9 2011, 07:29 PM)
TS, American English too has the standing as UK English. So why not let this thread open to both usages? They're almost similar only different in certain aspects, besides, we can more diverse and have a broad thinking if we're exposed to two or more of those English. smile.gif
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The English Language is the language from England. Hence, I believe we should practise the Queen's English.

QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Aug 9 2011, 10:15 PM)
Give me an example of grammar nazi on this forum.. I've not encountered any, all moderate, except one who went up to the point of opening a thread on it. That title is relative, and relativity somehow never points to ourselves.
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Dear reconnaissance, how about you being LYN's 1st official Grammar Nazi? Your input here will really be very much appreciated.

TSMercedes
post Aug 10 2011, 12:48 PM

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Can I make another suggestion for this thread? Everyone who posts on this thread stands to be corrected. Agreed? No hard feelings, okay, we all learn together.

QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Aug 10 2011, 12:25 AM)
American nt even speak in proper english and follow on the grammar during speaking.I'm a chinese and i speak mandarin but i don't even follow the rules or as to say grammar of mandarin to speak , if i do that i will become a slow speaker
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Dear kailoonthedog, I think I get the gist of what you are trying to convey but I'm afraid it's not properly written there.

Anyone here wants to try and help our fellow forumer?

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post Aug 10 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Aug 10 2011, 12:25 AM)
American nt even speak in proper english and follow on the grammar during speaking.I'm a chinese and i speak mandarin but i don't even follow the rules or as to say grammar of mandarin to speak , if i do that i will become a slow speaker
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QUOTE(Mercedes @ Aug 10 2011, 12:48 PM)
Can I make another suggestion for this thread?  Everyone who posts on this thread stands to be corrected.  Agreed?  No hard feelings, okay, we all learn together.
Dear kailoonthedog, I think I get the gist of what you are trying to convey but I'm afraid it's not properly written there.

Anyone here wants to try and help our fellow forumer?
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Americans don't even speak in proper English as well as grammar. I'm a Chinese and I speak Mandarin with grammatical errors. If I do, I will not be able to speak fast enough.

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post Aug 10 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Aug 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
You are right, the present perfect tense is more appropriate.

You don't normally use the past perfect tense (had had) unless you are talking about the 'past within the past' or you wish to refer to an earlier event at a point in time in the past.
'You had had your dinner when I asked you yesterday'.
But when I asked now, you say 'I have had my dinner'.(present perfect).

I find it so common for people to keep making the same mistakes  in grammar without them realising it because there is nobody to tell them about it.
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I have heard that English of UK and USA both are different a bit, their accent differ and to the extent the accent is also changed. So the difference also get arises when it comes to write too.
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Marriee @ Aug 10 2011, 01:34 PM)
I have heard that English of UK and USA both are different a bit, their accent differ and to the extent the accent is also changed.  So the difference also get arises when it comes to write too.
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I don't think accent could be changed. If you are English, you'll speak with an English accent but if you are an American, you'll speak with an American accent.

QUOTE(Marriee @ Aug 10 2011, 01:34 PM)
So the difference also get arises when it comes to write too.
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So the difference arises when it comes to written English too.


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