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TSy3ivan
post Aug 3 2011, 04:05 PM, updated 15y ago

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Say goodbye to disc format in the coming next-gen console and break way to Digital distribution Age.

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Death of the Disc-Based Game

The idea of a steep, one-time purchase price for games can't last. Like the newspaper, the hardcover book, and the compact disk, the expensive disc-based method of video game distribution is on its way out, a process that's only accelerating as more developers and publishers test out alternative pricing models both on PC and console platforms.

The full-priced retail game might not disappear until after the next generation of consoles, but it will eventually. Major franchises like Call of Duty will continue to move huge quantities through ever-expanding brand recognition, but new or lesser known intellectual property is doomed to either flounder or catastrophically fail if they're sitting on a store shelf bearing a prohibitively high price tag.

The answer is to lower the price, as many have been doing in the PC realm with games on digital storefronts and social networks. Make the game free, let people play the real game, not a demo, and then use the strength of the gameplay to advertise the product. Low cost gaming is exploding all over. It's part of why the App Store took off, capitalizing on the all-consuming power of the impulse purchase.

Looking forward, beyond even the next generation of consoles, the future will involve services like OnLive. Though OnLive does not yet offer an ideal gaming experience, the notion of bypassing the need to upgrade hardware entirely makes too much sense to be ignored by console producers. It's the fastest, easiest, most direct method (at least for consumers) to access games. Instead of consoles, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would simply run OnLive-like services. They might sell unique input devices, but the entire concept of a physical disc and hardware setup will be archaic, irrelevant and ultimately difficult to profit from in this rapidly evolving industry where convenience is king.

The console that takes off in the next generation is the one that most successfully mimics what's happening in the PC market.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1185726p1.html#disqus_thread
sense next console to be:
1. NO optical drive, internet dependent for Mass distribution
2. Games rental, like OnLive and XBL
3. Games are sold in segments, SP and MP are price accordingly (Starcraft2)
4. Games are to be cheaper and shorter like what happen to the current industry


This post has been edited by y3ivan: Aug 3 2011, 04:10 PM
h3ctor83
post Aug 3 2011, 04:34 PM

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i hate this. i like my games where i can see it. in the plastic covers, on my shelf!
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post Aug 3 2011, 05:36 PM

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post Aug 3 2011, 06:54 PM

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+1 to the old dood above me
TSy3ivan
post Aug 3 2011, 06:59 PM

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also,

-1 to piracy.

PC here i come
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post Aug 3 2011, 07:00 PM

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post Aug 3 2011, 07:01 PM

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post Aug 3 2011, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(ajis @ Aug 3 2011, 05:36 PM)
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u mean streamyx 50kbps downloads speed for a 4mb line says hi.
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:35 PM

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It could happen in the distant future, but for big titles it is remained to be seen, not so soon after the dismal PSP Go.
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post Aug 3 2011, 10:10 PM

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I'm not ready for a full digital download-only console. For now, I still prefer to touch, smell, and sleep with my games. wub.gif
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post Aug 4 2011, 12:13 AM

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hahaha.. yup, i also still prefer to touch and feel my game.. I'm more of a sight enjoying person, potographic memory as they described, prefer to watch those cool drawings or renderings on the plastic covers of games n keep them as trophies.. Some games i buy for the sake of it's game cover amazing drawings and such.. ;D
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post Aug 4 2011, 12:27 AM

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post Aug 4 2011, 04:44 AM

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even PSP Go is discontinued before it takes a name... yes, it was a test product for media-less gaming device and sony do admit.it was a failure.read in on engadget somewhere long time ago..

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post Aug 4 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Aug 4 2011, 04:44 AM)
even PSP Go is discontinued before it takes a name... yes, it was a test product for media-less gaming device and sony do admit.it was a failure.read in on engadget somewhere long time ago..
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it failed because of pricing and stupid design and no backward compatibility (especially if u owned PSP games)
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post Aug 4 2011, 10:32 AM

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imho, consoles should remain using disc due to not being able to add multiple hdd easily compared to the computer.

computer games should be download only as what is done today by major companies like valve & blizzard.

btw, i still prefer to hold my games and store them on my shelves.
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Aug 4 2011, 10:32 AM)
imho, consoles should remain using disc due to not being able to add multiple hdd easily compared to the computer.

computer games should be download only as what is done today by major companies like valve & blizzard.

btw, i still prefer to hold my games and store them on my shelves.
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theres isnt much difference from a pc and a console in terms of media distribution. With ability of download on demand, it is not necessarily to have multiple or large HDD.

anyway, whats the future to local game retailer?

consumers still prefer to 'plug and play' style similiar to x360 and wii as compare to PC, and PS3.
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post Aug 4 2011, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Aug 4 2011, 11:13 AM)
theres isnt much difference from a pc and a console in terms of media distribution. With ability of download on demand, it is not necessarily to have multiple or large HDD.

anyway, whats the future to local game retailer?

consumers still prefer to 'plug and play' style similiar to x360 and wii as compare to PC, and PS3.
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yes there is. some games are meant to be played over and over again and some games are just 1 run and off to the rack. some people love to store their games although they only play it once. it's called collection.


i'm an active buyer from steam for my pc games as well as buyer for ps3 & xbox360 games from the game shops.
imho, pc games requires more space due to u NEED to install the game, patching, updates, and even turns the game into a whole different meaning. ever wonder why Team Fortress 2 sucks at consoles buy why it's considered 1 of the best online PC game up to date?

for consoles, u can run the game directly from the disc itself but there's a limit on it (hint: Arcade Super Street Fighter 4 & Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 anyone?).

Therefore, game consoles will not need to require much media space compared to the pc gaming coz all they need to install is updates, patches & game saves.

btw, pc is not only for playing games that's why it requires more space compared to consoles.

This post has been edited by SHOfrE3zE: Aug 4 2011, 11:49 AM
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post Aug 4 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Aug 4 2011, 11:47 AM)
yes there is. some games are meant to be played over and over again and some games are just 1 run and off to the rack. some people love to store their games although they only play it once. it's called collection.
i'm an active buyer from steam for my pc games as well as buyer for ps3 & xbox360 games from the game shops.
imho, pc games requires more space due to u NEED to install the game, patching, updates, and even turns the game into a whole different meaning. ever wonder why Team Fortress 2 sucks at consoles buy why it's considered 1 of the best online PC game up to date?

for consoles, u can run the game directly from the disc itself but there's a limit on it (hint: Arcade Super Street Fighter 4 & Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 anyone?).

Therefore, game consoles will not need to require much media space compared to the pc gaming coz all they need to install is updates, patches & game saves.

btw, pc is not only for playing games that's why it requires more space compared to consoles.
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1. Not sure ur a fan of it, i seriously disagree with the statement
2. Never had any problem with those games on XBL

SO ur saying its OK for PC to go for digital distribution at Full retail Price (steam) while console should stay with disc based media distribution.
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post Aug 4 2011, 03:08 PM

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post Aug 4 2011, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Aug 4 2011, 01:37 PM)
1. Not sure ur a fan of it, i seriously disagree with the statement
2. Never had any problem with those games on XBL

SO ur saying its OK for PC to go for digital distribution at Full retail Price (steam) while console should stay with disc based media distribution.
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1.dude, i'm playing TF2 most of the time & i owned all the sf4 & MvC series for the consoles and r u saying i'm not a fan? and this discussion is nothing to do with being a fan or not. face the fact, tf2 on console suck monkey balls and even valve admits that.
2. XBL games are consist of mini games and never a full-fledged game. try installing all your games to your xbox hdd. see if it fits.


and to that dude above who never used steam before: even if your hdd died, u can still download it again and again from steam. your game does not tie with your computer. it's tied with your account.

This post has been edited by SHOfrE3zE: Aug 4 2011, 07:23 PM

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