honda city do not have CVT

what year??

Ooo sorry didnt noe honda city has CVT >< between what kind of problems honda city has with CVT? Mind sharing?? Maybe I can let you know if Inspira have the same problem.

No such thing not as good as lancer or whatever.

Although honda city uses a CVT, it is very different compared to the ones in altis, lancer, and slyphy.

the honda city's uses a clutch system where as the larger CVTs for medium sized cars uses a torque converter.

one may argue that the torque converter ones are more reliable, but it comes at a cost, the torque converter has more power loss.

Both are very different CVTs catered for different car sizes.

Our CVT is much larger to cater the larger amount of torque it can handle. it shows in the CVTF requirement. lancer, altis, nissan uses 6 litres compared to the honda city's 3.5 litres of CVTF

Dont worry, both CVTs, under proper hands, will be very reliable. it is the stupid honda SC that made this mess up for themselves when they put ATF in the city's CVT.

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Added on July 31, 2011, 8:44 am

Proton's CVT is from Punch automative and it uses a clutch system.

not true.if properly maintained, it will last. The only problem is that honda sc put the wrong trans fluid

Am i bad luck?

I just took my car 2.0p  chasis 6xxx series yesterday morning.

Then happily test drive... about 70km....

Bad things happen to me... the ABS fault shown in my screen... It require service....

then another 20-30 mins driving... the engine light also shown in my screen. I quickly send back the car to the SC near by Jalan Ipoh.

Walao... they dont know what happening after 30 mins... they have no idea with those error light.. (That time i havent read the manual book yet because i just took the car in the morning!)

After that they asked me to Center of Execellence main branch to check! ok!... I must go lor.. no choice what...

What happen is when i am on the way to this USJ there, the hand brake light show on the screen! this is third light liao.... I starting to worry and the celcius showing at the bottom of "D" mode is 46..

Damn hot wor... is that normal?

Finally i reached to main branch at 4 pm. They said must let my car overnight there coz they close at 5pm.... I need to take cab back to my house... WTF >.<"

However i checked the manual book at night and found i m lucky while the car safely send to that Center of Execellent! It is quite dangerous while i quite speedy around 100-130kmh because the car look fine.

This is consider my first car because i bought it my self! I really panas hati and very disappointed with "P". I thought giving another chance to them as ppl complaining their QC problems, but my self kena gao gao...

This happen in day 1... how they can ensure it wont happen again such errors.....

However, i asked my SA installed the auto lock and gear lock only which is not affect those ABS, engine things...

Yeah Ok, I already inform my SA about it and he's looking for it for me already....dont care where he got it from i just want my damper back .

So to all future owners, please check the damper. don't be like me like that, checked the big things but din't check the glove compartment thoroughly.

say....is it worth the hassle to install a light which will turn on whenever i open the glove compartment?

Can anyone snap a pic of their glove compartment with the damper? So that i can bring it to show the SA in case he find anything different...

Proton quality has improved by leaps and bounds no doubt about it. However its those small little things that QC team have frequently overlooked....

The wira eh,,,despite the many problems it has...I think its still one of the car I love the most...My current wira is with me for 17 years liao  . Last year spent a fortune on her though, change shafts, bushings, engine mount, Water pump, fuel filter, gearbox, air con system, brakes, timing belt, power windows...etc.... I can buy a 2nd hand wira with the amount i spent 

At least there's one thing that you can be sure 99% its dem good, their Air con....

Pickup at low end is good enough to me. I'll say it better than a 1.6 Forte auto which i've tested, but from 120km/h - 160km/h....is very easy....in fact...just kick up the rev to 4k - 4.5k rpm into the MIVEC zone and the car will fly, even at lower speed...but of course, if drive like that sure makan minyak lor....

Normal city driving 100% jam is 8km/l - 9km/l. Highway 100km/h-160km/h  is 14 km/l. If you constantly drive at 90km/h, probably you can achieve 16km/l.

i just bought this... very good... can take care of our leather, plastic, vinyl ... icy cold!!:)

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Added on August 6, 2011, 6:21 pm

not mention the damage.. is personal interest only.

== ya meh I didnt know XD >< BMW Jaguar and Ferrari == U sure BOh ... which type o ==

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Added on August 7, 2011, 12:43 am

LOL Really ? I thought DuGong means following. CuCuk means poKING HAHHAHXX XD. Thanks for the clarification. Still city and vios dam under power.

I think Inspira upgrade to R3 same as Satria Neo to R3 has a price too confirm not 150k and confirm no turbo. Depends on how it looks like first =D.

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Added on August 7, 2011, 2:20 am

== I feel u r quite lame la ==
a 2.0p Inspira cost 90k
a City cost 95k full spec
a vios cost ... I DUN CARE ==

yes they have lower CC engines, I didnt brag about woo hoo I TIONG A VIos == I only told Matrix dun tiong vios and city la they dam under power. When did I say WOO HOO I tiong A VIOS == dun lame ah please. I even asked matrix to tiong the same segment cars. If not why chyapp said matrix not tionging vios and city anymore?? tionging Ferrari BMW and jaguar Waaa. == Please read properly before replying. Thanks.

THE ABILITY of the CAR is TOTALLY Follow with the PRICE. so you can use RM 50K car's ability and buy RM 100K car's ability? dun mention you are in malaysia. let take you to US, so you can use USD 10K to buy a USD 23K Lancer's engine? Dun even mention Inspira is Change the emblem or name. I gonna SHOUT to those MYVI owner... GOOD ar your car?? Malaysia Made?? still change of emblem and name and no people care business coz is a NON-FAMOUS CAR AT ALL and daihatsu throw to TOYOTA and resell to PERODUA...

Other comment i dun care.. if you talking about this i will wanted to CORRECT you.  Thanks

so does your views. to each his own, stop babling what you feel and lets get back to what this thread is all about, proton inspira.

remove tax? are you for real? or is this your 1st day in malaysia? i couldnt care less if it is inflated or not. what matters most in the end is MONEY and COST.

Between people who drives on a wet road at high speed are idiots and if they play cucuk == the vios should just let that idiot satria pass den the satria will just cucuk another car. If you let a car cucuk and dun move u r an idiot too coz you are basically being an ass hole to block the road. I didnt say its safe to cucuk people but I wont ever cucuk anyone or drive more den 60 in a rain. I've been in that situation 80km/h in a rain turn also can gg.

Please dun look down on smart cars =D watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgxYoeGrfzQ

Cars will eventually improves, sames as proton it will eventually improves. U are probably watching one of the very very old reviews of smart. Second hand value not much to comment now coz for me I feel second hand cars are all terrible, it really depends on how the 1st owner take care and protect the car. One most important factor how the owner drive the car. Even if you buy toyota or honda at second hand how do you know its still reliable? You are basically buying an old car/ problem car. I will never buy a second hand car coz I rather buy a new car and use it for 15 - 20 years at least i'm using and enjoying a new car. Selling a car at second is always a loss to me, I dunno about u guys but this is how I think.

Let's see if i get treated the same after i get my first service. My SC called me too to ask me about the car (I haven't even decide which SC to send to!) after 2-3 days of getting my car? I did tell them about the noise insulation problem that we have with the road noise, and they say they'll do something about (seem like they already got a solution in place). They told me if its bothering me very much i can come make appointment and come asap, other wise can go do it one shot during the first service). Asked me a lot of things about SA's way of handling the sales etc.

If this happened due to a change in service policy in Proton, I hope they keep it up. This should be the way, after all no matter what car, a car purchase isn't cheap.

Cause before i think the car still new, scare later suddenly any problem half way. 
then next time back i will drive that car. check is it any problem on highway.

do you know how long the timing chain can last, and change?
what is the cost to change timing chain?

latest info i got:

petronas fuel causes knocking. Use shell instead. Maybe it's isolated case, i dunno.

Got this info from proton test engineer