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 (M)otorola DEFY Official Thread V3, A tough phone for Android

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post Jul 26 2011, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jul 26 2011, 12:33 AM)
If you look at the back cover there's no raised enclosure part like the original version so I doubt it would be waterproof. The actual 3500mAh battery was made by a company called monaco I think. After having the andida battery im now a bit skeptical with all these high capacity battery, especially the unbranded ones.
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LOL. Those might be be china brand with no water resistance makes defy worthless ..
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Jul 26 2011, 09:34 AM)
I've tried aftermarket batteries before (not this 3500mAH ones though) and the problem seems to be the contacts. Always lose contact with the phone causing the phone to shut off (not proper shutdown, just simply no power and die). Worried that this will cause data / file corruption in the long run so I decided to stop using it. The supplier sent a new set to me, still the same problem. I wanted to return everything back to the supplier, but no reply from him, so I just forget it lah. Luckily it doesn't cost me a lot.
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Sometimes u pay for wat u get.this no brand china batt might explode n no safely manufacturing.some really worth it n safe. Decision up to individual.
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post Jul 26 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 26 2011, 03:11 PM)
hey guys... i need help....

is there anyway or app that can make video quality in the dark better? at least abit more brighter and more visibility? coz even on night mode u can barely see shit...

heres a sample of test video i made (ignore the shakes/vibrations, was testing out a mount at the same time).. and this was with night mode.



u can see how sucky it is....

my friend has a HTC Sensation which takes brighter videos with more things visible.. so i was wondering if its possible to get something similar via an app etc etc

FYI.. my phone is still on 2.1 and is not rooted. dont intend to root.. and dont intend on going 2.2 anytime soon (too much shit to setup and backup)
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LOL DON INTENT TO ROOT N KEEP ON ECLAIR?? HTC sensation has different hardware ,high end than defy.good job on ur video post.enjoy ur eclair.
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post Jul 26 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(kennethbta @ Jul 26 2011, 04:35 PM)
hey bro...i don't understand why u seems kept mocking people who are staying with stock rom namely froyo or eclair when they are not using CM7 or MIUI like u did? if they intend to do so let them be...not using CM7/root/MIUI/cutom roms doesn't mean defy sucks man...just my 2 cents...cheers!!  thumbup.gif
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LOL.chill..
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post Jul 26 2011, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(kennethbta @ Jul 26 2011, 05:16 PM)
i think it's more towards hardware limitation rather than os version/root or no root issues...
not really a fair compare with defy's 5mp camera to sensations 8mp camera IMO  tongue.gif
or u could try other video recording apps like LG camera to see if there's any difference...not sure if it helps tho~
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Yeah Kenneth chill,lol.make ur own decision.
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post Jul 26 2011, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(kennethbta @ Jul 26 2011, 07:46 PM)
lol...sorry if im offensive bro...
just thought maybe u too hardsell CM7 or MIUI will scare those newcomers away haha...
don't get me wrong...i myself also suggest to root and install custom roms...
personally think it is the biggest difference between android and other OS...
some said...no root=not android  icon_idea.gif
what i want to say is give them time to fully test stock roms...im sure eventually they will get bored and started ask for rooting/custom roms guide  tongue.gif
so chill everybadeh~happpy defy!  thumbup.gif
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Mate, take your time to explore and experience. You would appreciate and love your defy more after you root and upgrade your OS. Experience and hands on to rectify. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 26 2011, 08:45 PM)
i think the best experience is when you use stock ROM for very long (like myself and kysham) but once you flash custom ROM, you really appreciate the greatness of the custom ROM. stability wise, i can say they are not worse than stock, but the extras they bring is really good.

but use the stock ROM first, and be amaze when you flash new ROM. it's like having a new phone!! the sweet is sweeter after the bitter
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Yeah thats the word " having a new phone" thumbup.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 26 2011, 09:13 PM)
i dont honestly think that it pushes components to the limit. one thing comes to mind. how many touch points does your stock defy has? 2? if you not sure, please download multitouch tester and press as many fingers you have on the screen and you will know. and by just rooting, you can add a multitouch program that gives you up to 10 point multitouch. now, is that pushing components to the limit? or plain unlocking the potential? i understand some components are pushed to the limits, like over-clocking, but then with root, you can under-volt, which means you;re using less voltage to run at same clock speed, meaning you're gaining precious battery life, thus giving your phone a longer lifespan.

dont just judge blindly. there are pros and cons in everything. try to get the max of the good, and lessen the bad.
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Weeewee, blackwhite our new shifu thumbup.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 26 2011, 09:56 PM)
no lah....just saying what should be pretty obvious. i realise most ppl are resistant to change, while some are very open to new things. having an open mind and compare with facts and logics still much better than just using 'feel' and emotions to make decisions.

i admit when i got my defy, i didnt DARE to root even, not because i dont want to. i'm just scared i screw up a RM1500 phone. but after rooting it, i left it for 2 weeks before i flashed a froyo ROM, and why? cos my SD card had a problem and had to re-format, so i will end up with a blank phone anyway, so i decided to just flash it. bro lingch can testify the hours he spent with my when i screw up the flashing process, and man, it does change a lot of thingsmessagessage then. but once you take charge and do things properly, yoretu realise it's not that hard after all. i've seen a 50+ year old man bought himself a HTC and did root and flash custom ROM. one is never to old to learn!
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wow ling n you two of meet do together or online?
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post Jul 27 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 26 2011, 10:28 PM)
online lah..he in kuching, i'm in kl. but the effort he put for a total stranger is amazing. great fella
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Oh yeah lowyat forum best lah.
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post Jul 27 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 27 2011, 01:01 AM)
Not really lah. I've met d*cks here before, but generally its ok.
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D@ck how leh??
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post Jul 27 2011, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(kaystanford @ Jul 26 2011, 10:18 PM)
Couldn't agree more.

The 2.1 Android just feels laggy to me. Did not do justice to the Defy. After reading some of the info here and other places I decided to flash my phone. It went dead. I stayed at home on Saturdays and Sundays even missing my weekly climb session to get it up again... tongue.gif

I learned the hard way. Now on CM7 and loving it. Still don't really get all the jargons or type of ROM builds mentioned here but I think I will survive. Never felt this way for a phone since I got my first HP iPAQ so many years ago. Just 'DUIT' ha ha.
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Nevertheless custom rom overpower stock rom.


Added on July 27, 2011, 2:44 am
QUOTE(macians @ Jul 27 2011, 02:34 AM)
want to ask something..i have 2 defy set...one is black brightstar set, and one more is black white strip set*not sure what set coz dont have 'sirim' or brighstar sticker behind the battery*

ok straight to the point, i have root my brightstar set from 2.1 enclair to 2.2.1 as the instruction above, (the old style one) and currently working great with all motoblur function+widget

but, the other one set set is running on froyo 2.2.2 which is i think is retails update, i means official update, and it working suck.not smooth, lag here n there and the most terrible is, i dont where is the motoblur social networking widget...

im do some research and they said i must to hard reset the phone, i already do that, but when i reboot, there is no motoblur sign-in system, diff with my brightstar set, when i reset, it will open the motoblur sign in/up first rather than android tutorials...

can anyone of pro here explain, is it bcoz the set or the retails 2.2.2 or something else..

for now im using the 2.2.1 first, bcoz it completely save my life, think to sell off the black white strip set..anyone interestd..hahaha..pm me biggrin.gif
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Sell amazon or eBay can get higher price

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post Jul 27 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Jul 27 2011, 11:21 AM)
for touch points, it depends on your usage. generally 2 points is more than enough for most programs/games, but certain games require more touch points, like Tap Tap Revenge or games like that. if you find 2 points is enough, then it's good enough. but if you find that it's not enough, then you can add the program in. that's the beauty of Android


Added on July 27, 2011, 11:25 ambtw, here's the link. the guy have put it up on android market

https://market.android.com/details?id=defy.multitouch.vista
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Wow black u r awesome. If I install this early at cwm must install this from market and overright?

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post Jul 28 2011, 01:54 PM

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Wats the Max CPU u guys overclock to with no stable issue?
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post Jul 28 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(prozai @ Jul 28 2011, 03:54 PM)
installing 10 points multi touch will harm my phone??? hmm.gif
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Why harm? Let u have more you touch point only. U got overclock ur processor? Over clock too high than harm phone.
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post Jul 28 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(prozai @ Jul 28 2011, 03:54 PM)
installing 10 points multi touch will harm my phone??? hmm.gif
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Even 1.2ghz will shorten phone span?? 800mhz Sian NW all duo core 1ghz is minimum to hav
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post Jul 28 2011, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(prozai @ Jul 28 2011, 05:40 PM)
hmmm hmm.gif
bootmenu must been install through adb????
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I nothing just install 2ndinit from market.I recommend u root first, than 2ndinit,than flash miui,than defy baseband,than multi point touch.only noob still using window 95, all at least XP or seven.upgrade for ur own benefit.


Added on July 28, 2011, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(prozai @ Jul 28 2011, 05:40 PM)
hmmm hmm.gif
bootmenu must been install through adb????
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Now even donut and cupcake are rare. Time to upgrade pal.

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post Jul 28 2011, 07:41 PM

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Anyone use vibraseq on defy?
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post Jul 28 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(prozai @ Jul 28 2011, 08:06 PM)
not that i dun1...just tat i got no confident enough in doing these  doh.gif
i installed 2ndinit
which to pick for stock 2.2 doh.gif (ill go for cm7 soon dun tease me i learn quite slow  sad.gif )
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Welcome to the custom rom.
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post Jul 29 2011, 09:31 AM

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Good morning defy user Friday again,end of weekday ncomes relaxing weekend.waiting for miui updates!! Little disappointed if defy+ isn't duo core..

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