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TSKelvin5717
post Jul 9 2011, 09:29 PM, updated 15y ago

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Planning to have a small lawn area at my car porch, meaning i will remain 2ft on the side as land, to grow some flower and rest is cement..

my concern is below;

1. during raining days, would the land sake ?
2. during raining days, would the mud over flow to the porch and dirty it ?
3. Is there anyone who did this ???
4. would it in directly spoil my car porch tile or ? erm i dunno what i'm asking but i concern lol..

i can't find any sample in the google as i not sure which key word to use.. any suggestion ? advice ? photo to share ?

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jul 9 2011, 09:31 PM
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post Jul 9 2011, 09:55 PM

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what type of house are you staying? Detached, Semi-D, terrace? What is your house size and land size..

U wanted to do landscape izzit ?
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post Jul 9 2011, 09:58 PM

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I am assuming that your planned 2' land for gardening would be tufted and not concreted or tiled.

You could always make the garden area lower than the rest of the car porch (concrete or tile surface). So, when it rains the water from the garden would not flow to the tiled/ concrete area.

As for drainage for the garden, you could use underground drainage.
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jul 9 2011, 09:55 PM)
what type of house are you staying? Detached, Semi-D, terrace? What is your house size and land size..

U wanted to do landscape izzit ?
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Double story terrace, land size 20 x 65, since most ppl say 18ft balance for 2 car so i a lot balance so i take the 2ft as a small garden

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 9 2011, 09:58 PM)
I am assuming that your planned 2' land for gardening would be tufted and not concreted or tiled.

You could always make the garden area lower than the rest of the car porch (concrete or tile surface). So, when it rains the water from the garden would not flow to the tiled/ concrete area.

As for drainage for the garden, you could use underground drainage.
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yes kelvyn you are right, how low should it make it ? how many ft ? i ask bout the drainage my contractor say no need drainage as the water will suck into the land (earth) shocking.gif how does undergroun drainage works ? from where to where ?
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post Jul 10 2011, 10:21 AM

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You need to establish what are the water that will be getting onto the lawn. Is it just the rain, lawn watering plus some water flowing from the higher car porch floor only? Will there be any roof water flowing onto the lawn?
I think a picture speaks a thousand words smile.gif

Basically an underground drainage is to drain away surplus water so that the lawn is not soggy. There are various methods used depending on the situation.
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post Jul 10 2011, 03:13 PM

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in proper term, an 'underground' drain is call sub-soil drainage. It works by draining excess water from soil to your common drain. Basically it's a perforated pvc pipe with layer of membrane wrap around it. It is usually place abt 5'-8' top grass level depending on the level of your common drain. All soil need some sort of drainage to drain excess water.

If someone say no need for such area even it's just a small lawn patch, I think something is wrong there, especially when we are in Malaysia where rain is constant. Beside for all new development, most likely the land you are sitting on is of yellow soil/clay like soil, so it cannot absorb water so much.

Good luck to you!

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post Jul 10 2011, 04:50 PM

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just 2' space. better cement it completely & put some potted plants.

not I don't encourage u to do gardening/landscaping.

but i've seen too many example of house owners regretting their decision. they are too lazy to maintain the green area of their house & at the same time too stingy to pay someone else to do it.
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post Jul 10 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(maxim concept @ Jul 10 2011, 03:13 PM)
in proper term, an 'underground' drain is call sub-soil drainage. It works by draining excess water from soil to your common drain. Basically it's a perforated pvc pipe with layer of membrane wrap around it. It is usually place abt 5'-8' top grass level depending on the level of your common drain. All soil need some sort of drainage to drain excess water.

If someone say no need for such area even it's just a small lawn patch, I think something is wrong there, especially when we are in Malaysia where rain is constant. Beside for all new development, most likely the land you are sitting on is of yellow soil/clay like soil, so it cannot absorb water so much.

Good luck to you!
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hmm hmm.gif what do you call this sub-soil drainage in cantonese ? afraid those contractor dun get what i mean sigh.. ya worry also the soil over flow to car porch also ...

QUOTE(scorgio @ Jul 10 2011, 04:50 PM)
just 2' space. better cement it completely & put some potted plants.

not I don't encourage u to do gardening/landscaping.

but i've seen too many example of house owners regretting their decision. they are too lazy to maintain the green area of their house & at the same time too stingy to pay someone else to do it.
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hmm do you mean that the lalang grow there or ? mind giving more elobrae of cons having this 2ft lawn ?
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post Jul 11 2011, 12:04 AM

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maxim concept is correct, even the area is small, proper drainage is still necessary, u never know wat is underneath the ground.

this is what i do for my 5x8 lawn

1. get the indon worker to dig it 6-8 inch below ground level
2. undersoil piping which drains the water to longkang (drilled with 20 cents coin size hole)
3. a layer of stone, small sized
4. a layer of PVC mesh
5. a layer of soft sand
6. a layer of planting soil
7. pearl grass!

all done with proper leveling smile.gif
do not worry about lalang just treat it as some exercise on Sunday morning biggrin.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jul 10 2011, 11:48 PM)
hmm do you mean that the lalang grow there or ? mind giving more elobrae of cons having this 2ft lawn ?
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as expected, u don't know anything about maintaining a green area.
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Jul 11 2011, 12:04 AM)
maxim concept is correct, even the area is small, proper drainage is still necessary, u never know wat is underneath the ground.

this is what i do for my 5x8 lawn

1. get the indon worker to dig it 6-8 inch below ground level
2. undersoil piping which drains the water to longkang (drilled with 20 cents coin size hole)
3. a layer of stone, small sized
4. a layer of PVC mesh
5. a layer of soft sand
6. a layer of planting soil
7. pearl grass!

all done with proper leveling smile.gif
do not worry about lalang just treat it as some exercise on Sunday morning biggrin.gif
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Hmm cool, but mind translating to cantonese, my cantonese not good hard for me to communicate with the uncle contractor as he's english also poor doh.gif

1. I know
2. undersoil piping = should i say "dei ha geh pipe " rclxub.gif ?
3. layer of stone, small sized (normal stone ?)
4. PVC mesh ? for what ? what's that ?
5. spft sand = any specific ? call " yau sa" ?
6. ok
7. tongue.gif

QUOTE(scorgio @ Jul 11 2011, 11:39 PM)
as expected, u don't know anything about maintaining a green area.
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ya i do not know anything about maintaining a green area, just ppl got very nice thought wanna try out ..
should the expresion being shocking.gif or doh.gif or sweat.gif or tongue.gif

 

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