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post Jul 7 2011, 10:43 PM, updated 9y ago

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Something like this

http://www.concretenetwork.com/photo-galle...-countertops_2/

The workmanship are really good, i am trying to find someone can do this and fit in the undermount sink too.
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:48 PM

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Hi end solid surfaces would be a better option as it can be polished and much harder than concrete
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:57 PM

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Nope, solid surfaces can't handle the heat, and scratch easy. When i was in US, some of the hotel i go use only concrete for the toilet sink. Is dam nice.

I want to do this on the kitchen, can't even find a cement dye to make it Black / White.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 7 2011, 11:57 PM)
Nope, solid surfaces can't handle the heat, and scratch easy. When i was in US, some of the hotel i go use only concrete for the toilet sink. Is dam nice.

I want to do this on the kitchen, can't even find a cement dye to make it Black / White.
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http://dxyn.net/2009/12/diy-bar-counter-finishing-touches/


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post Jul 8 2011, 09:40 AM

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Yeah, saw that before. But i can't find the color mixer to make it darker. Now ordering via Ebay for the color
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post Sep 13 2011, 02:06 PM

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http://designerfinish.com.my/polishedconcrete

tis company does polished concrete countertops... must not be cheap though
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post Sep 13 2011, 02:12 PM

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Minimal 1000 sqft, and some transporation fees. Already know the quote. One simple floor will cost you minimal 10k
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post Nov 22 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 13 2011, 02:12 PM)
Minimal 1000 sqft, and some transporation fees. Already know the quote. One simple floor will cost you minimal 10k
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So how is your end result so far? Last I saw if your top is black. Did you sand it and seal it afterward?
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QUOTE(ttan777 @ Jul 7 2011, 10:48 PM)
Hi end solid surfaces would be a better option as it can be polished and much harder than concrete
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Concrete is harder than solid surface.
Yes, it can be polished.
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post Nov 22 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(praetorion @ Nov 22 2013, 04:52 PM)
So how is your end result so far? Last I saw if your top is black. Did you sand it and seal it afterward?
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OK la, sand it myself and did the sealing myself too.
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post Nov 23 2013, 01:01 AM

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Care to share which sealer you used? Hard to find food grade sealer here.
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post Nov 23 2013, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(praetorion @ Nov 23 2013, 01:01 AM)
Care to share which sealer you used? Hard to find food grade sealer here.
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I use this http://www.pyeproducts.com/prodetails.php?...de=RESL&lang=en

Acrylic sealer not very friendly with rubber, when you have rubber stand on the top for long maybe few days, it tend to stick on it making it got marking.
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Thanks for the info. I am still looking for water based sealer. This PYE will react to silicone caulk as well?

You might need to apply a layer of beeswax to cover the sealer. This way you wont run into sticky situation. Problem is wax need to reapply every 3 months or so.
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post Apr 25 2014, 06:12 AM

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Anyone try to look for the sealer in ace hardware?i plan to seal for kitchen top, so might need a food free sealer. Found some in ebay.. Hope can get it locally for future usage purpose
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QUOTE(cyberp @ Sep 13 2011, 02:06 PM)
http://designerfinish.com.my/polishedconcrete

tis company does polished concrete countertops... must not be cheap though
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This company did a sample presentation at my company and yes it is nice but the price comes with the expertise they have. They have several design and concrete colours. If I'm not mistaken its about rm 22-24 persqft but u guys have to do the smooth rendering first just like when you wanted to lay parquet or laminated flooring. If small amount they charge you lum sum.

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post Apr 25 2014, 11:39 AM

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Just make sure you don't use Granite counter top especially those from China. Bet many people don't know hey emit radiation, me included. I only knew this is a problem when I was checking out the many outlandish claims by Pakatan against Lynas and found a lot of what they said are utter rubbish said to scare people to vote for them.

http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/opinion/...th-us.html?_r=0


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post Apr 25 2014, 10:41 PM

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Good thread. I've been reading alot about concrete counter top on the internet alot in recent weeks. Trying to learn and understand and maybe can DIY since alot of the howto videos and net guides are DIYers.

But the main problem is all the website are from US or UK and for them, any materials is readily available from either their local hardware store or online stores..even ready-mix concrete which is not possible to ship to Malaysia

The cement & aggregates are easy, can get anywhere, its those additives, plasticizers, admixtures, pigment dyes, sealers etc etc..i've tried searching hard on local website but it seems nothing..

I checked out Acehardware, they do carry a PU sealer brand is Minwax but i'm unsure if its for concrete use..reading from net, epoxy based sealers not best choice, especially if used in Kitchen..
If browse through pye products website, there do seem to have water based PU sealers for concrete but again, info is very limited, might have to go directly to pye's office/warehouse to buy directly

There's an online seller in lowyat, selling invisible based water proofing thingy, if u checked out his website, they have a product for cement admixtures. Based on description, i think its a very good solution to add into the concrete mixtures to make it strong, unlike just using cement, aggregates, lime & water.

If u guys do more searching online, one can actually make the concrete top as smooth, silky & good looking as solid surface, with better strength properties, durability at maybe 5% the cost of solid surface (mind you a cement bag is like only RM18 which can cast you a 10ft table)

With pigment dyes, you can make it any color you wish, and i'm particularly interested in making it super white like solid surface, but then again, cant find any pigment dyes for concrete in Malaysia..

maybe like TS, need to order from net, shipped from US or something

appreciate if TS can post some photos of final products and get everyone interested in concrete products
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post Apr 26 2014, 10:00 AM

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white pigment dye is actually white cement which is available from PYE but i havent tried that yet.

PYE do have premix cement with sand and you can get them from hardware shop too. Tell them you want 916 premix. They comes with 1kg and 18kg if i am not mistaken.
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post Apr 26 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(praetorion @ Apr 26 2014, 10:00 AM)
white pigment dye is actually white cement which is available from PYE but i havent tried that yet.

PYE do have premix cement with sand and you can get them from hardware shop too. Tell them you want 916 premix. They comes with 1kg and 18kg if i am not mistaken.
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Its actually more than using just white cement..check out this project
http://m.concretenetwork.com/concrete/coun...countertop.html

In addition of using white cement, they added a pigment from blueconcrete called Titanium White integral pigment to make it super white
http://www.blueconcrete.com/white/

Then they also use white silica sand & white coarse aggregates

I dont know about the pye 916 premix, but is it specifically meant for concrete countertop or for general purposes?
What i was referring to was actually premix products like from chengconcrete, quikcrete, buddyrhodes etc, in which they sell premix bags of cements specially designed for concrete countertops..its added with required admixtures etc

chengconcrete for example have an extensive product range for alot of concrete projects..i really wish they'd appoint a distributor here for their products

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post Apr 26 2014, 08:23 PM

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Believe me if I tell you I understood all the requirements you mentioned coz I did follow closely the development of concrete table top. These are merely their own mixture which is available here, but not in ready mix form. Quikrete is close to PYE here but what we cant get here is hardener compound which is safe for home use.

You can be creative when it comes to aggregates, it can be crystal, glass or any natural stone. At the end of the day it's the surface finishing that is the most important and safe for food handling if you use it in kitchen.
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post Apr 30 2014, 12:38 PM

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after some reading, im interested to diy my countertop.. but still not sure how to design the leg part as i want to install cabinet after that.
sourcing material is another problem. hahaaa need smooth surface for molding. normally hardware only got plywood.
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QUOTE(pakutekan @ Apr 30 2014, 12:38 PM)
after some reading, im interested to diy my countertop.. but still not sure how to design the leg part as i want to install cabinet after that.
sourcing material is another problem. hahaaa need smooth surface for molding. normally hardware only got plywood.
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How is your countertop coming?
I am thinking the samethings on how to connect the concrete slab/leg to the countertop and to the floor. I saw many solid surface did this. But I don't know their tricks.

Most of the example only design countertop without the leg.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 13 2011, 02:12 PM)
Minimal 1000 sqft, and some transporation fees. Already know the quote. One simple floor will cost you minimal 10k
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Whats concrete mix you use? Mix on your own or buying premix?

Is using white cement enough to make it white?
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post May 18 2014, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ May 18 2014, 07:29 PM)
Whats concrete mix you use? Mix on your own or buying premix?

Is using white cement enough to make it white?
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Black, you need dye. White, white cement will do.
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QUOTE(weikee @ May 18 2014, 08:16 PM)
Black, you need dye. White, white cement will do.
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How about the concrete mix ratio? Can share? smile.gif
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post May 18 2014, 11:02 PM

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I think can use hollow concrete block? I'm not sure how it is done in Malaysia but I saw online, Singapore build the leg support first with hollow concrete blocks while waiting for the concrete countertop mould to be cured.

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QUOTE(S'aimer @ May 18 2014, 11:02 PM)
I think can use hollow concrete block? I'm not sure how it is done in Malaysia but I saw online, Singapore build the leg support first with hollow concrete blocks while waiting for the concrete countertop mould to be cured.
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Hi bro u still have the link? ? Thanks
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post May 19 2014, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ May 18 2014, 09:41 PM)
How about the concrete mix ratio? Can share? smile.gif
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I don't know. Just ask my contractor to mix for me.
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post May 19 2014, 04:36 AM

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Where can get the color dye/pigments?
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post May 19 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(wa1k3r @ May 19 2014, 04:36 AM)
Where can get the color dye/pigments?
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I got mine from ebay.

You can try the broken marble factory/warehouse they should have some color.
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Edit: Here are a few examples of what our Singapore counterparts do for their kitchen countertop

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As you can see, they build their concrete countertop differently from our malaysian contractors. They do the concrete countertop mould
in 2 parts for sink and stove separately while building the leg support first.

Based on googling online, our malaysian contractors' style is to build the countertop mould with the rebars in the wall first while placed on top of wood support to be cured for a few days. I think they build the leg support later after the countertop mould is properly cured and strong enough. But I do not know what material they use for leg support? Is it red bricks or what.


QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ May 19 2014, 02:03 AM)
Hi bro u still have the link? ? Thanks
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post May 20 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(S'aimer @ May 19 2014, 10:07 AM)
Edit: Here are a few examples of what our Singapore counterparts do for their kitchen countertop

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As you can see, they build their concrete countertop differently from our malaysian contractors. They do the concrete countertop mould
in 2 parts for sink and stove separately while building the leg support first.

Based on googling online, our malaysian contractors' style is to build the countertop mould with the rebars in the wall first while placed on top of wood support to be cured for a few days. I think they build the leg support later after the countertop mould is properly cured and strong enough. But I do not know what material they use for leg support? Is it red bricks or what.
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If based on M'sian style, there's no need for both the left & middle leg..the rebars in the wall would've been sufficient to support the counter top, plus just the right leg

As for the mould/template, i believe its generally the same..the contractor will allow for openings for cooking hob & sink before casting i.e incorporated in the form work before concrete casting

As for the leg, u can use red bricks with cement plaster finish..but of course, there's no reason why u cant cast the legs using concrete & rebars too

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Herm, very different. this looks cleaner as malaysia's style of doing rebar requires drilling.

But this one seems faster n cleaner.

Maybe i shud advise my contractor otherwise. I think more importantly, this one seems DIY-able!!! Lol!!

From wat i see, just prepare a strong base (as in the bricks used by SG), then we follow on with a concrete top.
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The concrete casting done in sg, I understand that they will put in the rebars inside the mould template first, then pour the mixed concrete and aggegrates. Or else the concrete top will not be strong enough even after being cured.

I do think the drilling part for our side is messier, spoils the look because of the tile alignment that comes after that. Sometimes, some malaysian contractors will leave a gap between the tiles for the rebars, then much more easier. However, I feel that it is better to tile the leg support first, at least the alignment from top to bottom is neater based on my kitchen reno experience and comapring pictures.


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QUOTE(S'aimer @ May 20 2014, 07:44 PM)
The concrete casting done in sg,  I understand that they will put in the rebars inside the mould template first, then pour the mixed concrete and aggegrates. Or else the concrete top will not be strong enough even after being cured.

I do think the drilling part for our side is messier, spoils the look because of the tile alignment that comes after that. Sometimes, some malaysian contractors will leave a gap between the tiles for the rebars, then much more easier. However, I feel that it is better to tile the leg support first, at least the alignment from top to bottom is neater based on my kitchen reno experience and comapring pictures.
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Seem like no one doing it like the western methods. Which they make a concrete slab that strong enough to be top and support. Both leg and countertop is one pieces with rebar enforced so the end product look like a furniture rather than permanently jointed to wall or floor.

Western method is more science to it because they use very strong concrete mix 5000psi (fiber glass, polymer and more cement less water ratio)and reinforced with properly placed rebar to make the concrete have better blending characteristics. Rebar, wood mold will make it in one piece to create one piece concrete furniture.

I so wanted to try this.
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Hi, anyone know any additives available in malaysia to prevent concrete cracks during curing period?
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Anyone can share contractor contact no?
(Able to do this nice white concrete top)
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QUOTE(aviecena2020 @ Sep 1 2014, 07:48 AM)
Anyone can share contractor contact no?
(Able to do this nice white concrete top)
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This is the natural concrete bench, hope you like it too.


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Can share out the contact?
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Would like to have that contractor contacts as well DeanWong118, most appreciate~!
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Would like to have that contractor contacts as well DeanWong118, most appreciate~!
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Can share contact, thanks
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hey guys,
noob question here:

what are the main advantages to this compared to a free standing kitchen counter?
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QUOTE(DeanWong118 @ Sep 1 2014, 10:58 AM)
This is the natural concrete bench, hope you like it too.
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hi, can provide contact?
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anyone else done such concrete tops share some insights?

My contractor does it by driling metal rebars into the wall, and use plywood for the molding..after curing///then only use red brick for the leg

i am referring to bathroom sink vainty

my plan is to tile my vanity, but hate tiles punya joint lines...so i need to find one big piece of tile big enuff to cover my length of countertop.
After that how to tile the leg without joints....haha i am clueless
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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Feb 28 2017, 11:08 AM)
anyone else done such concrete tops share some insights?

My contractor does it by driling metal rebars into the wall, and use plywood for the molding..after curing///then only use red brick for the leg

i am referring to bathroom sink vainty

my plan is to tile my vanity, but hate tiles punya joint lines...so i need to find one big piece of tile big enuff to cover my length of countertop.
After that how to tile the leg without joints....haha i am clueless
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Use marble or granite? Or cheaper option use mosaic.
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Just use normal tiles will do

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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Feb 28 2017, 11:08 AM)
anyone else done such concrete tops share some insights?

My contractor does it by driling metal rebars into the wall, and use plywood for the molding..after curing///then only use red brick for the leg

i am referring to bathroom sink vainty

my plan is to tile my vanity, but hate tiles punya joint lines...so i need to find one big piece of tile big enuff to cover my length of countertop.
After that how to tile the leg without joints....haha i am clueless
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Have a look at artificail granite. It is without joint. Your top and leg can look like 1 piece monolithic structure.
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 2 2017, 09:08 AM)
Have a look at artificail granite. It is without joint. Your top and leg can look like 1 piece monolithic structure.
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Can also do acid staining
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Mar 2 2017, 03:33 PM)
Can also do acid staining
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Acid staining? What is that?
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 2 2017, 04:19 PM)
Acid staining? What is that?
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concrete acid stain, in 2011 no one doing, managed to get one that got all the chemical from oversea.
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I also have to get Concrete dye from ebay.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 2 2017, 04:46 PM)
concrete acid stain, in 2011 no one doing, managed to get one that got all the chemical from oversea.
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You are using 1? Good to use? Easy to maintain?
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You are using 1? Good to use? Easy to maintain?
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Yes, at my parking area. If you looking for blink blink glossy it going to be hard to maintain, matt will be easy. Depending the finishing.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 2 2017, 11:55 PM)
Yes, at my parking area. If you looking for blink blink glossy it going to be hard to maintain, matt will be easy. Depending the finishing.
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Mind to share some photos? How long you have been using it?
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Mind to share some photos? How long you have been using it?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1920588/+320

When it was brand new, blink blink. Now the top layer is no longer there, i didn't really apply anything.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 6 2017, 03:35 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1920588/+320

When it was brand new, blink blink. Now the top layer is no longer there, i didn't really apply anything.
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Look nice.
Coloured concrete?
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 6 2017, 04:44 PM)
Look nice.
Coloured concrete?
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Nope, is called concrete acid stain. You can Google see some of the incredible arts they can make
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 6 2017, 05:32 PM)
Nope, is called concrete acid stain. You can Google see some of the incredible arts they can make
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Means the colour is created by the acid huh.
Interesting!
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 6 2017, 05:33 PM)
Means the colour is created by the acid huh.
Interesting!
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In the US is been years they doing it. And we in Malaysia still see this as miracle come from the sky. And so hard to find the material use it for. I managed to make some acid for one or two color but not large enough for entire house. End up i pay premium for the setup.

I hope the material can now easily be purchase and used in Malaysia. I may one day make my entire indoor with acid stain.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 6 2017, 05:37 PM)
In the US is been years they doing it. And we in Malaysia still see this as miracle come from the sky. And so hard to find the material use it for. I managed to make some acid for one or two color but not large enough for entire house. End up i pay premium for the setup.

I hope the material can now easily be purchase and used in Malaysia. I may one day make my entire indoor with acid stain.
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What is the rough cost to do so?
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Forgot already, is more expensive than doing tiles and that is only the staining, not inclusive of preparing the concrete floor.
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:28 PM

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Expansive probably due to it is imported product.
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post May 10 2017, 04:08 PM

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Anyone here can summarize the material availability in malaysia regarding DIY White concrete countertop here? including finishing (sealer and wax). Thanks.
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post Jan 13 2021, 03:25 PM

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post Jan 13 2021, 03:26 PM

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Sorry, double post, mod please delete.

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