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post Jul 22 2011, 10:16 PM

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LT's outlet not closed down? I just find her way of talking super irritating doh.gif

The ghost month in chinese calendar, has this got anything to do with FS as well? Some people said it is not a good month to get married, move house, reno house, buy car, etc etc. Bad month to do anything generally. Is this true?
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post Jul 22 2011, 10:27 PM

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I happen to be looking for auspicious day to move. If you google it, there are couple of sites that tells you which date you can move. Although many did say the month of seven is not good but there are still lots of dates that can move.

anyway something to ponder, if a fengshui master is really good in predicting or helping someone from getting into trouble, so why can't the fengshui master help herself from getting divorce?
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post Jul 22 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Skydrop @ Jul 22 2011, 10:16 PM)
LT's outlet not closed down?  I just find her way of talking super irritating  doh.gif

The ghost month in chinese calendar, has this got anything to do with FS as well?  Some people said it is not a good month to get married, move house, reno house, buy car, etc etc.  Bad month to do anything generally.  Is this true?
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That is taiost believe. Not FS. In FS, your good/bad of the yrs, month and day is according to your birth. Or name?




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post Jul 22 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Jul 22 2011, 10:27 PM)
I happen to be looking for auspicious day to move. If you google it, there are couple of sites that tells you which date you can move. Although many did say the month of seven is not good but there are still lots of dates that can move.

anyway something to ponder, if a fengshui master is really good in predicting or helping someone from getting into trouble, so why can't the fengshui master help herself from getting divorce?
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I don't think FS control all aspects in our life... FS can't fight with destiny... example... let say someone destined to get cancer... he/she won't recover straight away by using FS in the house... FS just an "improvement"... not 100% can stop all bad things. Even the best day to move into the house won't guarantee anything... because guarantee means 100%...
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post Jul 22 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Jul 22 2011, 10:27 PM)
I happen to be looking for auspicious day to move. If you google it, there are couple of sites that tells you which date you can move. Although many did say the month of seven is not good but there are still lots of dates that can move.

anyway something to ponder, if a fengshui master is really good in predicting or helping someone from getting into trouble, so why can't the fengshui master help herself from getting divorce?
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She is helping herself. Don't see divorcing is bad.
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:04 AM

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Even after use FS... ppl still can get sick, arguement, divorce, retrenched, broke, accident.... we live in the house not for one day ma... for many years to come... bad things can happend even with FS set up well... but it can improve the situation... that's my own belief.
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jul 23 2011, 12:04 AM)
Even after use FS... ppl still can get sick, arguement, divorce, retrenched, broke, accident.... we live in the house not for one day ma... for many years to come... bad things can happend even with FS set up well... but it can improve the situation... that's my own belief.
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Maybe i put it this way, you get sick, you get accident, argument, financial problem. But with good FS, it reduce the impact. So instead of loosing 100k, you loose 10k. Instead of broke your leg, you hurt your leg.

With bad FS, instead of loosing 100k you lost 1Mil.
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:17 AM

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I have another true story related to FS. This of my girlfriend, friend boyfriend family who live in this bdr puteri Puchong. All family Shift in this semi banglo total 6room. Bad thing start to happen continuously. They are Christian and don't believe this all stupid thing.

The family mother start to diagnose breast cancer and operation. Than many small small bad thing continue happen. And the latest, the brother become veget after vomit blood and brain less oxygen.

So this friend is a Taoist believe. Ask his boyfriend to believe her that need someone FS and Taoist thing to solve this mystery. Some sifu come and check the house. Tell them that their house not just human live but got many ghost live too. And manage capture some ghost picture as prove. Next sifu FS come and complete the remaining FS thing. Cost 30k for the FS. sweat.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:34 AM

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FS don't do exorcism, that is totally another area.
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post Jul 23 2011, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jul 22 2011, 11:47 PM)
I don't think FS control all aspects in our life... FS can't fight with destiny... example... let say someone destined to get cancer... he/she won't recover straight away by using FS in the house... FS just an "improvement"... not 100% can stop all bad things. Even the best day to move into the house won't guarantee anything... because guarantee means 100%...
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just for argument sake. don't you think the supposedly initial fengshui you gonna get is also destined? so why change it?
if someone believes in destine, then no matter how someone tries to change their life, it will just be the same.

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She is helping herself. Don't see divorcing is bad.

maybe from different perspective, being alone is good but most people believe being together is better. so you could be right. maybe she is helping herself but the next question is why she can't help her other half if her job is helping others to improve life?
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post Jul 23 2011, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Jul 23 2011, 08:25 AM)
just for argument sake. don't you think the supposedly initial fengshui you gonna get is also destined? so why change it?
if someone believes in destine, then no matter how someone tries to change their life, it will just be the same.



you didn't include the FS as improvement/ impact reducer here... you just want a single answer to explain the whole universe. no such thing dude... destiny, luck, FS, donation, study.... this 5 things in the importance of "ranking"... don't ask me why its like that... they work together to create a single outcome... FS is mysterious stuff... ppl who never experience any improvement by FS will say it won't work...so, its up to you... i'm not FS master... just a normal believer.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 23 2011, 01:07 AM)
Maybe i put it this way, you get sick, you get accident, argument, financial problem. But with good FS, it reduce the impact. So instead of loosing 100k, you loose 10k. Instead of broke your leg, you hurt your leg.

With bad FS, instead of loosing 100k you lost 1Mil.
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Any concrete proof it improves "bad" situation above?

I can also play the same tune and say Feng shui is "evil" coz it cause losing 10k INSTEAD of 1k, whole leg hurt in accident rather than a toe.

But obviously when you apply Feng shui... a 100k renovation becomes 150k. Thats LOSING 50k .


Added on July 23, 2011, 9:06 am
QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jul 23 2011, 09:50 AM)
you didn't include the FS as improvement/ impact reducer here... you just want a single answer to explain the whole universe. no such thing dude... destiny, luck, FS, donation, study.... this 5 things in the importance of "ranking"... don't ask me why its like that... they work together to create a single outcome... FS is mysterious stuff... ppl who never experience any improvement by FS will say it won't work...so, its up to you... i'm not FS master... just a normal believer.
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From one person (like you) that notice improvements from paying /applying Feng Shui, there are 10 more doing as well as you WITHOUT knowing Fengshui nor applying it (eg. western people).


Added on July 23, 2011, 9:15 am
QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 23 2011, 01:17 AM)
The family mother start to diagnose breast cancer and operation. Than many small small bad thing continue happen. And the latest, the brother become veget after vomit blood and brain less oxygen.

So this friend is a Taoist believe. Ask his boyfriend to believe her that need someone FS and Taoist thing to solve this mystery. Some sifu come and check the house. Tell them that their house not just human live but got many ghost live too. And manage capture some ghost picture as prove. Next sifu FS come and complete the remaining FS thing. Cost 30k for the FS. sweat.gif
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Thats lame.

Breast cancer (lump) developed over years.... even before they moved into new house. And some other diseases too . Shouldnt they be blaming the PREVIOUS HOUSE for "nurturing" the diseases, even though it culminate after moving in NEW HOUSE with so called "ghost" ?
Yes one might argue bad fengshui cause current disease worse. Those who think so shouldnt go see Dr nor believe in one, OR EVEN GET TREATMENT if something goes wrong with their body. Go get feng shui master for "treatment".


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post Jul 23 2011, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 23 2011, 09:03 AM)
Any concrete proof it improves "bad" situation above?

I can also play the same tune and say Feng shui is "evil" coz it cause losing 10k INSTEAD of 1k,  whole leg hurt in accident rather than a toe.

But obviously when you apply Feng shui... a 100k renovation becomes 150k. Thats LOSING 50k .
Any concrete proof God is around us? Try ask this in Temple, Mosque, and Church smile.gif Any concrete proof the law of relativity?

I wonder how FS can increase renovation by 50k?

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post Jul 23 2011, 11:03 AM

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When I first read ozak's story, the only thing that strucks my mind is the presence of the unseen. These beings must have dwelled there for a while and wanted to chase people out of the house. Hence the series of sickness etc. This is what I have heard previously. So I think, this is more of rituals rather than FS.

As for the FS lessening the impact of losses or whatever, that I don't really believe. Maybe it is destined that the person memang will only lose 50K regardless of FS elements but people just choose to think otherwise because of something that they believe in. Just like finding some excuses to soothe one's heart aje....


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post Jul 23 2011, 11:10 AM

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just wondering malay belief FS ka?... why ppl always sed chinese is richer in m'sia? is it becoz of FS?

if malay don't belief FS... then ofcoz it is right to say majority of malaysian don't belief... only minority do.

Obviously someone who use 50k for FS renovation was conned instead...haha.

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 23 2011, 12:34 AM)
FS don't do exorcism, that is totally another area.
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It is not about the exorcism. What I tell is, don't wait for the worst damage till only find the solution. In this case, some family person already too late to undone. When bad thing start to happen after shift in new home or after renovate, solve it fast and be more sensitive to the matter. We always brush out as nonsense and don't border at all.

Don't restrict yourself to certain solution because of not believe and religion. When your pray is not heard, go for others solution . Even it against your religion. Many ppl think FS is associated with religion, only chinese culture and ghost thing. I m looking FS as more on scienctific way. Not mystery thing.

Use FS to check and solve your home problem before move in if you believe. That would minimise or prevent the damage happen. But I guess we are more important on what expensive thing to buy for renovate/new home rather pay this FS. tongue.gif Me too. he.....


Added on July 23, 2011, 11:18 am
QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Jul 23 2011, 08:25 AM)
maybe from different perspective, being alone is good but most people believe being together is better. so you could be right. maybe she is helping herself but the next question is why she can't help her other half if her job is helping others to improve life?
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This is her personnel matter. We only can guess. There is 101 reason of what she want to do. If she know divorcing is the best solution for her, why not. If she know another best person waiting for her at the front why not. If the present problem she facing and FS telling her divorcing is good, why not. If divorcing improve his life is the only matter, why not.

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Some open minded malay believe FS. But not displaying it openly because social stigma always associate FS with chinese religion bla bla bla. I also don't know how to differentiate between FS and rituals.

Like in western countries, people celebrate halloween and people dressed up in all strange manners like ghost! Here, people just say it is a bad month to do anything major. Some don't even go swimming or drive long distance after dawn. All sembunyi in the house.


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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 23 2011, 09:03 AM)
Thats lame.

Breast cancer (lump) developed over years.... even before they moved into new house.  And some other diseases too . Shouldnt they be blaming the PREVIOUS HOUSE for "nurturing" the diseases, even though it culminate after moving in NEW HOUSE with so called "ghost" ?
Yes one might argue bad fengshui cause current disease worse. Those who think so shouldnt go see Dr nor believe in one, OR EVEN GET TREATMENT if something goes wrong with their body. Go get feng shui master for "treatment".
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FS is nother solution to solve a problem. Don't use it as a treatment if you have a diseases. Go for the doctor. I don't believe waiting FS to cure your disease.

If your family is happy and good condition in previous house, but problem start happen after moving in new home/renovate, what the first thing in your mind that you will think? The family is already in devast in the story that I tell. It is sobing condition in everyone of them.


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post Jul 25 2011, 10:57 AM

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Have a read, http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6405&sec=nation

I know one of the person giving feedback.
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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 6 2011, 05:27 PM)
I saw a number of threads where the reno work includes input from so called Feng Shui master.  The recent one is on removing the tree in front of the house as tree/lamp post is considered bad for feng shui.  Personally, I dont believe in a lot of the Feng Shui stuff other than those that are more sensible such as dont buy a house that is at the road junction as I do not want to see some car in my living room!

As for the tree thing, i had a tree shared by myself and my neighbor.  I thought was OK but I was surprised one day when I returned from work, the tree was gone and I was not informed previously!  Interesting thing is my neighbor is Malay  smile.gif
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As some of you might know from my renovations, I employed a Fung Shui Master to take a look at my house before renovating.

There is no 1 size fit all Fung Shui. What is good for one might be poison for another. shakehead.gif
Thus need to see birth date of all involved in that house (occupant) to harmonize the Fung Shui. bruce.gif

In my case, there is a tree in front of my house, Initially wanted to remove it for aesthetic reason, but Fung Shui Master advised no in my case. tongue.gif

I believe fung shui is good to have. .. It is a study of how the environment affects our lives.
Taken in this context.
This is quite reasonable and logical. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by phoenix69: Jul 25 2011, 11:55 AM

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