Fantasy Movies after HP 7.2 and Hobbit 1 & 2

It is my firm belief that after Harry Potter 7.2 and Hobbit 1 & 2, movie companies will stop making fantasy movies....

Eragon BOMBED

The Golden Compass crashed and burnt.

The Chronicles of Narnia The Voyage of Dawn Treader didn't do particularly well in the box office. And I don't think they would work on another

Please bare in mind, when I say fantasy, I mean sword and sorcery not Giant Blue Aliens and Spacecraft.

What do you think?

Opinions?

P.S. Amendment, there is a Conan the Barbarian and Immortals are coming out this year. And Clash of the Titans 2 next. Whether those are well accepted, remains to be seen...

Additionally, after Red Riding Hood, I shudder to think what they will do for Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters and also Snow White and the Huntsman (a trilogy, REALLY!!!!!????????)

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 12 2011, 12:32 AM

man, i just wanted to discuss with you how i missed Lord of the Rings man. Then this thread was created. by you?? Hahaha, tomorrow i'll share my opinion. Wanna sleep

Well, by looking at the trend now, super heroes and alien invasion movies are certainly on the roll now.

With The Hobbits ended in 2013, I reckon there would be some announcement next year.

There are still a lot of fantasy books that can be adapted, but by looking at the success of adaption of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire into a TV series, filmmakers might just opt for a big budget series rather than a movie. Also, series have their Pilot episode first to test the market first.

Just my 2 cents.

I think there's still a future for it. Usually these fanstasy stuff are released almost like a seasonal thing. When one comes out, a whole bucket load of them will be released. But as snowfiire said, actions heroes is currently the flavor of the month but comes Hobbit i'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more fanstasy stuff. But imo, the next big fantasy title will be World of Warcraft. It has millions of followers and is one of the most successful if not the most successful mmorpg in the world. Then there's the Star Wars tv series which i;m eager to see. To be honest, i'll be happy with just having the game of thrones series for the next 5 years

Hey, what happened to your Avatar (u usually use House M.D. and then you change it to something else and now??)

Yes, I miss Lord Of The Rings too. Am currently watch The Two Towers Extended Edition in HD!!!!! *Bliss*

Glad my watching LOTR and then thinking to myself, Gosh, after Hobbit, nothing like THAT would be made anymore, hence this thread, help you to express, I Miss LOTR!!

Shoot way, my friend.

lol the topic title is kinda misleading isn't it? Makes it sound like there will not be any more and its confirmed. Instead, its just your opinion

This genre has always taken a back seat to the others, that's no surprise. While I would love to see a bunch of fantasy books adapted for the big screen, I wouldn't hold my breath :/

Lord of the Ring Trilogy is one of a kind, you have to wait for years for any similar movie to come. Early 2000's was very great man. With an introductory of Fantasy movie like LOTR and Harry Potter. Still can remember how crazy i was when watching LOTR and HP. Hobbit gonna be an epic, god knows how sad i was when LOTR Return of the King completed the trilogy and with Sam following the Elves along with the Rings Carrier left me wonder whether there will be a special film for the Hobbit and yes, it will be a reality. Gladiator was great.

Bridge to Terabithia was good, Alice in Wonderland was not bad also. Clash of the Titans? Not sure because i didn't watch it yet. 300 was good but donno why i think it's more towards a style-war movie or some sort like that. I didn't feel the 'fantasiness' from it . And was never a fan of Narnia. Eragon was... i kinda like Eragon but.. but. And WTF happened to Robin Hood?

Conan the Barbarian will be premiered in 2011 but is this some kind of B-Grade films or something because not much hypes from it. Judging from the poster, it looks like 300. lol



And i'm sure there are alot of fantasy story from book/novel will be adapted to film, just make sure Peter Jackson will involve in them all . King Kong was a massive film as big as LOTR but the story could not be prolonged hence there are no trilogy like LOTR.

And here hoping for the Last Airbender: Second Chapter and the next Pirates of the Carribean gonna be great. At Stranger tides was just a 'filler' film i think waiting for an epic version of POTC.

Fancy a Cave of Golden Roses Reboot? Highlander, Excalibur, Wizards of the lost kingdom, Dragonslayer, Beastmaster, Mortal Combat (lol?) And i'm still hoping for a 2000s version of Cinderella & 7 Dwarves, Snow white and Pinocchio!!!



I think any fantasy movies gonna turn great (less know or well known fantasy story) as long as it will be done in proper way and throw in huge effort like Peter Jackson did. Or you need dragon in it to define fantasy?

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jul 6 2011, 12:01 PM

you give us a different director for Last Airbender and we'll talk.

And Noob13 Luv you reaction

I have to agree with maxizanc that AirBender wasn't a total disaster and wouldn't mind giving Mr Night a chance to do 2nd part to redeem himself.

Just my opinion, no need to crucify...

I prefer more of Spiderwick Chronicles than Bridge to Terabithia because of the ending. As Mov_freak was specifically pointing towards fantasy with 'sword and sorcery' modern fantasy which includes both would suffice I think

All of dungeons and dragons movies are B-grade movies which are a dissapointment to me. Eragon was great but the main character should be change which greatly remind me of how weak is the cast for Arthur in Camelot. I didn't get to see Last Airbender movie but I finish all of the cartoons which are totally awesome. The minute I heard they compile complete chapter in a movie saddened me and I would skip it to avoid destroying my fun in the cartoon series.

I hear there's going to be a Warcraft movie which Vin Diesel is casted to be Thrall? Old news tho, don't know whether its being cancelled or not.

You got me wrong brother. I am not hoping for Last Airbender but i'm hoping the next chapter of Last Airbender gonna be great as i am a fan of the cartoon series. Read the whole sentence please. The 2nd chapter still gonna be shown whether half of the world's population hate it or not.

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Added on July 6, 2011, 1:27 pmYup, i like Airbender too but i think the movie don't need to be all that serious, just slot in kiddy-jokes by Ang and his friends lah please.

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Added on July 6, 2011, 1:33 pmHaven't watch Spiderwick Chronicles yet But I'm hoping they will make Warcraft and God of Wars too Any ideas on why Immortals and Clash of the Titans (didn't watch yet too) looks similar to God of Wars?

About Last Airbender, i think most of the flaws was from the selection of the actors.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jul 6 2011, 02:03 PM

No, I'm willing to bet it's not gonna happen. The movie may have made money, but the reviews were so damaging that the whole world will probably boycott the sequel. Also the actors are young, especially Noah Ringer, and a franchise starring kid actors needs to be constantly in production so that the actors don't grow up too fast. It's been a year since the last movie and there's been no news, so I'm pretty certain the sequel is not happening.

No, the flaws were in the writing, direction, and entire approach to adapting the source material.

Really? I thought they already comfirmed the 2nd and the 3rd. The 2nd will be released in 2012 amd said to be a bit darK?

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643066/l...shyamalan.jhtml

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Film:The_Last_Airbender_2

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jul 6 2011, 02:24 PM

i think it's a question of storytelling. in my opinion, the only fantasy author worth reading is Tolkien.

all the others are just crap, including Rowling. There's no depth. They are for the minds of children.

Even the LOTR trilogy barely scratches the surface of the story of middle earth. i thought the films were ok only

Fuuu. I butthurted reading this, but can't blame u also, i didn't read the book . But on Rowling, it's depend on the directors though since they change directors frequently. I like the darker version of last 4 movies of Harry Potter by David Yates. I prefer it dark.

One year already still notchet greenlight. I think Paramount is embarrassed about it and just wants to forget it ever happened.

well i guess it's hard to compress a good fantasy realm into 2 hours of film, or 12 hours!

The Last Airbender was supposed to be fun. Even if its bad like Pirates 4, it would still be fun.

So yeah, i was bitter on that because of the direction. Not to say like movies like Batman didn't profit from being serious, but there's just a certain way for some stories to be told. The Last Airbender by Shyamalan was sadly not it.

I wonder if I got his name right.

Sorry for the late reply. Was very busy at work today so did not reply until I can give it the full attention it deserve.

Lord of the Ring is probably a one in a million. Reason is two fold

1) J.R.R Tolkien wrote it VERY late in his life (I think he was fifty plus) and the fact that he had the whole universe planned (the different language for the different race, the geography of the Hobbit universe etc), proves that the details were thought out before he even put pen to paper. There is also evidence that he first draft which went nowhere he literally threw that out and started from scratch!! On his death he left behind SO MUCH MATERIAL about the Hobbit universe, his nephew, whom I assume inherited his works, spent goodness knows how much time compiling the said material into the LOTR Encyclopedia!! One word dedication.

2) Farn Walsh and Peter Jackson obviously have a love affair with the books. They know it like the back of their hands. In fact they know it SO well they were able to change/add/remove elements from Tolkien book in such a way, it works as the movie and STILL feel Tolkien. That is BY no means an easy feat, and yet they achieve it. Again, one word dedication.

Which bring me to the point, in which so many big budget movies in the pass 10 years, FAIL. They are so in tune into give the shock and awe, the razzle dazzle and the smoke and mirrors, they had forgotten that the film media primary function, is to TELL a TALE!! If the tale SUCKS, the movie sucks!! Simple as that!!

I do not believe any of the Arabian Nights stories will get a book to screen treatment, because of the middle east incidents (American are sick about the middle east and they don't want to go to a cinema to be entertain and be reminded of that). SO DON'T hold your breath.

I've always felt Robert E. Howard material (Conan, Solomon Kane and Kull) had never been fully realised and was VERY let down by Solomon Kane. Let hope Conan perks interest in his works.

I'm not sure I can stand another King Arthur movie (after the HORRIBLE Camelot). The one with Clive Owen is pretty good. (minus the sorcery though )

I love the Avatar The Last Air bender TV Series, and thought that the movie is passable. I also think the selection of the actors were crucial, and the lead was just a tad TOO emo...

So in short, for goodness sake, if there are ANY directors/writers out there reading this, it all about the story, Story, STORY and DEDICATION.

At the very least you can take pride in your work.

Sorry for the long windedness



This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 9 2011, 10:41 AM

Conan the Destroyer (1984)

Ah the good old 80s a mini fantasy movie golden age.

Conan the Barbarian, The Sword and Sorcery, Lady Hawk, Legends, Princess bride and many more.

One of the fantasy movie in the list, is Conan the Destroyer (1984)

After Conan the Barbarian, I was actually disappointed by this!!

Having a chance to watch this now, it isn't as bad as I remember...

Sets were impressive.

Characters were amusing.

After the more gripping Conan the Barbarian, I originally felt that Conan the Destroyer (1984) a little kiddie... and it was the intention of the producer for it to be so...

I can see why I dislike the movie initially, Princess Jehnna is a VERY irritating character, and I stand by my word.

I suppose, having "aged" I can now see pass the irritatingness!!

A nice like movie for a lazy Sunday afternoon, heck maybe even a lazy Saturday afternoon for that matter!!

My Two Sen

The Hobbit

i totally agree with u, placing Rowling in the same row with Tolkien is like placing David Coulthard with michael schumacher, they r in a totally different league, Rowling's story is like conning children (i read the books, both Tolkien and HP), the only thing I like about it is that they made (some of) the movies quite brilliant, with great actors and atmosphere, the movies saved the books in HP, but in LOTR, both the books and movies are GREAT, my only disappointment is the Return of the King

Please share.

Why were you disappointed with The Return of the King?

Like my sister, some people prefer the journey/adventure and friendship like film as well as simple without the usage of CGIs much. Maybe that's is all about. To me, i like all 3.

Er... all three LOTR movies were heavily CGIed...

The difference is the CGI were so well done that even in HD, it is very hard to tell (especially the The Tower Towers and The Return of the King)

Unlike Conan the Destroyer, even without CGI, the makers of the movie had to rely on optical effects which can be well done, and have to add when Dagoth came to life.... the movie fell apart for me.... Not as bad as the irritating Olivia d'Abo (Princess Jehnna). Just be glad you are going to the movie with excellent quality fantasy movie like LOTR in the last decade and not like 2 or even 3 decades before!!

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 10 2011, 10:45 PM

Yaeh i know, i was just about to edit my post, i mean lesser CIGIs lol

Actually i don't quiete remember the characters in Conan.

LOL, bro, still offended with my word last time ka? I'm sorry lah Just kidding.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jul 10 2011, 10:50 PM

Huh?

Why should I get offended with you expressing your opinions!!

Nothing to be sorry about!!

The Conan the Barbarian is being release in HD soon. Get it if you can (especially if you are above 21yo!!) I believe it is R rated.

It is a MUCH better movie compared to it's sequel Conan The Destroyer

Conan the Barbarian is MORE gritty.

I also believe it is the FIRST time I see how James Earl Jones looks.

Of course everyone would know how he sounds (Star Wars, Darth Vader)

I would really like to see Conan The Barbarian (break out role for Arnold Schwarzenegger, who by then had already appeared in one of tow low budget Italian muscle movies, 1984) again B4 I see the new Conan The Barbarian (Jason Momoa of Stargate Atlantis fame, 2011)

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 10 2011, 11:00 PM

One of the issues with book adaptation is that there is not enough screen time to fully develop the character and the world. Even LOTR was heavily edited for the cinema edition. To create a new fantasy world would be too complex, and to try to intro a world and characters in a 2 hour++ movie would be difficult to say the least. So you find most fantasy movies are adaptation. But to fully embrace the spirit of the books you will need to spread the movies across a few movies (LOTR, HP, Narnia) but that really depends on how the first movie performs (Airbender, Percy Jackson) if it flops then we are left hanging(Golden Compass).

If you have not seen Game of Thrones, I highly recommend it. Amazing production, script and acting. Did not read the books but from what I heard was closely adapted.I think all book adaption needs to be a series to fully develop the mood of the books.

The new Conan, Jason momoa is in it. Preview of how the new Conan will be although he didn't speak a word of English.

This post has been edited by Bishop: Jul 10 2011, 11:13 PM

I think there has been alot of concerns about the omissions the script writers and directors had done to the Harry Potter books. (I beleieve the stress got to Steve Kloves and he left the project after the 3rd movie)

Where as in LOTR addition/omission and edits were done to the story to flesh out the characters in the book

Say what you want about the LOTR book, it has always been a little dry/academic for me. It was like J.R.R Tolkien was a historian and he was dictation the facts of the history of middle earth for academic purpose...

Have got the whole Game of Thrones series. Have been saving it for a special occasion

Since I've finally watch the whole LOTR Extended Eiditon in HD, I suppose I'll start soon

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 10 2011, 11:24 PM

I found LOTR books to be very dry. (couldn't finish reading it, too much singing... )
Tolkien was very detailed in his world creation. He created a whole new language, although he did write dictionaries for a living.

If you read between the line of LOTR, you will find that he is a little racist. Ppl from the west is fair skinned and good, ppl from the east is dark skinned and evil.

Don't wait. Watch Game of Thrones now before someone tells you what happens. Unless you want me too...
Every episode is a cliff hanger except ep03. You better clear 10 hours before you start watching it. You can't stop..

This post has been edited by Bishop: Jul 10 2011, 11:39 PM

Did you see any characters in LOTR movies that were black (not counting ORCS!!)

J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis and 3 or 4 more people created a book club during their university years. They had always lament that the English do not have myths like other great cultures (eg Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Chinese and Indian). So they made a pact that in their life times, they would each create myth for their culture...

Some if them died in World War I and I believe only C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien kept their oath hence the "racist" elements you had mention

I don't remember any other myth by other culture that states "other" race and being good. Do you??

No need to spoil the fun for Game Of Thrones for me!!

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 10 2011, 11:48 PM

The orcs were black and from the east...

Sure you don't want any spoilers for game of thrones? Also note that it is an adult series, not for the kids...

Wow, it has been a long LONG time since anyone suggested that I'm a kid!!!

from my memory of the book (which was about 10 years ago) vs the movie, the book described the war between the 2 sides is so intense and the situation is SO dire and desperate for the good guys they nearly lost it, and if u read it you WILL BE OUT OF BREATH because the story is so engaging and INTENSE! it's like hanging on a cliff with NO WHERE TO GO BUT FALL! the movie is disappointing because they made the battle TOO EASY, especially when the ghosts came out, swept the field in one round and they won the war just like that...i don't really remember there were ghosts in the book, it was 10 years ago and i've read other books in that time so my memory is blurry, anyone wants to verify this? i like the twin towers the most because they really captured EVERYTHING from the book (barred a few details here and there which wasn't a big deal, like all the movies) especially the atmosphere, and the intense battle! the return of the king was supposed to be TWICE AS INTENSE as Twin Towers, but they really tuned it down

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jul 11 2011, 08:58 AM

i am really disappointed at your comments......the only fantasy author worth reading is Tolkien
m a fantasy book lover....only fantasy. and there a loads of good fantasy authors out there.
the more recent authors that are really good are ken scholes, patrick rothfuss, brent weeks & peter v brett.
peter v brett's book the warded man had been optioned for a movie.....not sure when it will be out.

rowling, paolini & cs lewis's fantasy books are meant more for teens.......not adults la.

Wow. I really like how this topic is heading to. This is what we call discussion. Just that, i think i am too young to remember any scenes from Conan for example unlike Mov_Freak. And i can't even remember Arnold was the one who played Conan the Barbarian.

FYI LOTR books are considered as literature already, it's a whole different league than the regular fantasy books

rowling's books are for 12 year old and below, although it doesn't say that but after reading it sometimes she thinks adults are idiots, or retarded...it may be dark at some point of the story, but it's so...light compared to other novels for adults, plus she made voldermort as the stupidest and sissiest baddy of all time, what kind of a baddy is that? he's like Dr. Evil in Austin Powers, at least Dr. Evil is a comic and he makes u laugh, but the dude who shall not be named feels , especially when u know the ending, and i'll stop here and not spoil it for those who doesn't know yet

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jul 11 2011, 10:29 AM

Well, the out of breath is a good point in the books and if you want to compare it side by side (movie and book) the plot line are still in line tho there are difference in the scenes that are brought into motion pictures. Eg:

In two towers; The battle of helms deep, they were not supposed to have any elf helping but gandalf brought the old trent(not Greybeard's but older) to help and the movie doesn't even capture the men of dunland protecting the dike.

In RoTK; Aragon should be accompanied by Arwen's brothers and the Rangers of the North and there are ghost in the book. Saruman's presence in the Shire at the end was also not included in the movie.


If its literature, your comment of ''the only fantasy author worth reading is Tolkien'' is misleading as they are others that is definitely worth reading. CS Lewis's Narnia is also a literature but directed towards children.

On the note of LOTR movie is the best epic fantasy adapt to a movie, I say it as a yes. But in comparison to the books, I say if one could adapt 100% of it with the songs and such, it will be a bland movie as what Peter Jackson's has done, made the movie watchable to people of every stages. In the Game of Thrones, season 1 adapted from Book 1 is easier to conduct rather than the sequels. The hardest bottleneck a director would have to face is the amount of characters depicted in the books and the budget to cater them. Its harder than you think even if the author is involve with the production.

Hence, even a simple fantasy could make a great movie but a great fantasy book does not necessarily make a good movie and should be left alone in the papers (unless a movie could lengthen to say about 5 hours per movie )

Movies such as thriller or fiction is an easier choice because mostly revolves around 1-2 characters and meet new ones along the way.

My 2 cents.

The Ghost army bits is add-on by Fran Walsh and peter Jackson, although walk through the haunted mountain pass was in the book.

Additionally, in the book, the Elves army didn't come to help in the Two Towers, again, an addition done by Fran Walsh and Peter Jackson.

In my opinion, for the PG-13 movie, the horrors of war were quite well portrayed in the movie (decapitated heads being catapulted into the city of Gondor comes to mind).

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Added on July 11, 2011, 1:29 pmSomeone is TRYING to say something. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something!!

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 11 2011, 01:29 PM

stormlcc,

there is without doubt tolkien's works are considered as literature.....after all he was the pioneer in a fantasy novel with a story that consisted of prophecies & quests.
honestly if his works were to be publish today......the books would just be as you mentioned 'regular fantasy books'.
but then he did his work at a time when no one really did and came out with an original story when no one else could and that is what make his works so special....
it's tough to come up with a new storyline nowadays as most had been done & tried.

but if you really want to try and read a fantasy novel with a difference, go for brandon sanderson, patrick rothfuss or r scott bakker.

if there is 1 work that i feel can be compared to tolkien.....it would be steven erikson's mazalan book of the fallen.

hence i will ask this question, what fantasy books can be compared to tolkien's lotr?

Nothing can be compared to LOTR.
But i strongly recommend 'Song of Ice & Fire' series.
And they are not children books.

As we are very astray from the topic.

I suggest that any discussion about fantasy book genre should be averted to LYN Book Club section, particularly in this thread.

Never read the books but how was the adaptation (Game of Thrones) to a mini series? I thought the series was great. How accurate was it to the books?

Hi Snowfire64

Very excellent observation.

I've amended the header, hope you don't mind.

May I inquire, when was he last time you read the LOTR books?

Have you read the Christopher Paoline's Eragon books?

Did you like the movie adaptation?

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 12 2011, 12:36 AM

Stephen King's Dark Tower series has the potential but of course will have to see how the first movie turns out...

The John Carter of Mars books by Edgar Rice Burroughs. The first movie John Carter directed by Andrew Stanton (A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo, Wall-E) will be released 9 March 2012.

i read LOTR probably abt 18 yrs ago....luv it at that time.
then i tried to read it again when the movies came out...but i couldn't.....
honestly tolkien writings are like telling a story to children....too many details.......and i cant stomach it!
but i luv the movies.....

i dont go for teen fantasy books like paolini....and the movie was quite bad.

tis costly to turn a fantasy book into a movie.....lots of cgi involved. in today's economy....very few would take the risk but that does not mean the end of fantasy movies....

Can't wait for "John Carter". Andrew Stanton's vision and passion for the project is just like he had for "Wall-E". In fact, it seems a teaser trailer is on its way when "Hallows Part 2" is released.

The best fantasy movies I've seen are undoubtedly LOTR Trilogy. I didn't watch the first two films in cinema for reasons unknown/lack of cinema outings back then but when I did end up watching the first two, no way on earth was I not going to watch the final movie. J.R.R. Tolkien clapped his hands in his grave. I know this for a fact. Maybe. Ended up buying the Extended Edition DVDs for all three movies. No money for BD though... he he. You are not watching the movie, you're in it. And that's fantasy.

Thanks for changing the header. Then we could widen our discussion here.

I've read the books about 4 years back including the Hobbit and Silmarillion. So far, the Hobbit is the simplest but everything is important and thus the decision to put it into two movies is highly anticipated by me of the putcome. Silmarillion is heavy with elven and middle earth histories going way back to the Valla ages. I doubt the book would make an interesting movie if adapted.

Yes, I have read the Inheritance series and currently waiting for book 4 which I hope to be released this November. I must admit the books is enjoyable but on the critics view, its closely adopted the 'Star Wars Saga' mechanics which 'I am your father' dogma trails the plot. The elven tounge and the true name also very simillar to the Eathsea Cycle by Ursula K Le Guin (which the movie actually jumbles up book 1 and two and made it into a horrific adaptation).

The movie adaptation was bad for me as the story should concentrate on how the dragon grows and not on the emo teenage hero which I think was casted poorly(similar to Camelot's Arthur). The only good about the movie was that Brom's character was portrayed. The rest is just meh.

Oh, and I do mind of the soundtrack in movies because Fantasy movies should not have Pop songs (like Avril's in Eragon, Knights Tale, and metal songs in the upcoming Immortal). Those music just ruin everything. Eg;

A knight goes into battle and then suddenly there's a metal song accompanied it.

Fantasy should have symphonies and instrumental, if they want vocal, they should include songs sang by Enya and similar artist.

Hi Great suggestion, though I believe that series leans towards supernatural rather then sword and sorcery.

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Added on July 12, 2011, 4:23 pmAnother great suggestion. I tend to think John Carter of Mars leans more to sci-fi rather then sword and sorcery. Truth to be told, Frank Fazatte's covers had always given me "fantasies"!!

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 12 2011, 04:23 PM

Game of Thrones (2011, TV Series)

Hm... Just watch 4 episodes of the series and it is more sword, no sorcery, until perhaps if



Apart from the no sorcery at this point, if fantasy materials get life on TV, Game Of Thrones is a good example on how to do it!!

My Two Sen

I've never read Silmarillion....

Yes, I'm cautiously waiting for the Hobbits movies. Nowadays, every time I look forward to a particular movie, it BOMBS spectacularly (for me anyway). So I try not to built myself up too much about a project.... Movies that I seriously like so far in 2011 is... Insidious...

Yes, the Inheritance Cycle is very influence by movies that Christopher Paoline had enjoyed. Do bare in mind he is pretty young and basically self published is first book. I was disappointed that he decided to change the books from a trilogy to a cycle...


The Eragon movie was poorly adapted, period.

As for sound track, i didn't mind the heavy metal song they used in the background for the dragon slaying sequence in Sucker punch!! I know, I know not many people like Sucker Punch, I do, some part of the movie I thought was well done!!

Thank you for sharing and please come back!!

Game of Thrones (2011)

Finished this this morning (2:30 am)

I'm now a national treasure (Panda of China)

A few surprises!



For anyone who loves fantasy and had not had the chance to watch this. Watch it now!! Just do it. you WON'T be sorry



This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 15 2011, 12:07 AM

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallow 7.2 (2011)

It is FINALLY here...

The last Harry Potter movie

Many a person had lament about how dry and dialoguey Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallow 7.1 and is hoping that the second part would be more action oriented.

Good news, IT IS!!!

Almost ALL the good bits in the second half of the book is in this one.



Be warned that are some major bits that I had expected to be in this movie didn't make it!!



So did I like the movie

Yes, yes I DID

Way WAY more then Transformer 3!!!

Saw this in 3D... no biggie...

Go watch it kiddies. You know you want to!!

My Two Sen

P.S.

The end is near my friend NEAR (HP and Fantasy movie)

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 15 2011, 02:01 PM

I suggest that you read the books Trust me, this is a story where you won't expect what happens next

How many books are there? Is it finished?

Got a 20% card from Times!!

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Added on July 17, 2011, 1:11 pmThe Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

Am watching here in HD now and it is still wonderful!!

What made the movie worked is Mr. Tumnus (James McAvoy) and Lucy Pevensie (Georgie Henley)

Whereas the other movie didn't have anything near to that!!

If you haven't seen this go see it!

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jul 17 2011, 01:11 PM

Apparently, in comic con this year, a few fantasy movies are being exhibited!!

So, the end of fantasy might NOT be near after all!!

I like the film adaption of Golden Compass. It was not too bad but the only problem is they changed the ending to a happier ending because in the first book ends in sadder way. Unfortunately, this story is a bit too complicated for most people and the studio made a huge mistake in promoting this movie like another LOTR. All the people who went to watch this movie was expecting another sword & sorcery type story and most came out disappointed. And the worst thing is it flopped at the US box office but did quite well worldwide due to the protests of the some churches.

I like the production quality and set design

I have to admit, I got lost in the adaption, to the point of giving up on the movie somewhere after the middle of the movie...

Yes, the way a movie is marketed, can effect the outcome of a movie (box office)

I don't think The Golden Compass is as bad as let say Inkheart or Spyderwick.

Inkheart is just a mess and I don't think Spyderwick had a strong story to begin with...

I am hoping the new Conan The Barbarian increase interest in E Howard stuff!! (sorry, am really into sword and sorcery!! )

took your word for it and...................HOLY SHXT!!! I never expected anything close to THIS! especially near the season ending, everything isn't what it seems to be, i'm loving it to death! and of course i didn't see your spoiler so i was so surprised by the twists and turns.

Yup. HBO did a FANTASTIC job on this one!! Glad you enjoy

For OTHERS who had not watch, JUST DO IT!!

Haha! Looks like a lot of people like it. I think HBO did a good job in making series, although I just recently watch True Blood, it did have the qualites similar to Game of Thrones.

Anyhow, for further discussion about Game of thrones, please head over to the Game of Thrones thread to avoid clutterring this thread with GoT discussion.

I've nothing else to add on future fantasies as they are no news about any upcoming fantasies besides the usual news such as conan.

Oh, does Your Highness count as one? Haha it is a fantasy with sword and sorcery tho a witty one. Hehe.

sorry a bit off topic here, i watch true blood also, been watching since it begun airing, the difference between the 2 is true blood has way more annoying and disgusting characters, sometimes u just wished they get killed faster. and the southern accent is UNBEARABLE!

Your Highness (2011)

Who in the world would cast Danny McBride as Thadeous a spoilt prince who does nothing but cause trouble for his father (The King) and brother (The King to be)

Oh, Danny McBride is the writer of this movie

This is fantasy with humor

Okay, If you expect The Princess Bride, no, NOT by a LONG shot

The narration at the beginning says it all.

This is like a crossed between a Mel Brooks and a Monty Python movie with lots and LOTS of toilet/reference to male/female "private parts" jokes.

The storyline is actually decent and the CGI is top notch

If they had cast someone like Adam Sandler as Thadeous, it would have done better

James Franco and Natalie Portman did they best to ham this up

Just didn't buy Danny McBride as Thadeous.

This is actually R rated and I don't think they ever showed this in Malaysia cinema.

Can watch this if you have nothing better to do

My Two Sen

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

Wow... how to review this.

Watched this on Sunday, in 3D...

After watching Lord Of The Ring, Return of the King, I really REALLY wanted to see The Hobbit, just to be complete.

After hearing all the drama, related to the copyright, the changes in director, and now have watched the first of the three movie, I am... underwhelm....

Don't get me wrong, it is beautifully shot! Nostalgia galore, and hence there lays the problem, there really isn't enough story to justify 3 MOVIES!!!!

He spread thing out, to the point of stupor...

Alright, he extracted information from the compendium, and also, that is the problem. It is compendium, which means additional information, NOT story....



Pacing is an issue. When action happens, it is NOTHING but, and when things slow down, they slow down to a stupor...

I'm a little concern for part 2 and 3...

One thing I would like to add though, the "music" in this movie, is actually an improvement over The Lord of the Ring trilogy, which is a good thing!!

My Two Sen

PS I saw this in the48 fps format...

Total different movie in the new format. Much MUCH better!!

Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters (2013)

I got to watched this in Sunway Pyramid Imax 3D...

First, the premise..

After all the vampire and werewolf movie, a witch movie is actually.... refreshing!

Gemma Arterton is eye candy... I mean a GREAT actor!!

Lots of action

Effects great

Apart from Hocus Pocus and Harry Potter, I cannot remember a witch riding a broom scene and they did it very well

So effect is good

Gory, very gory movie

And as usual, the story...

It could have been a little tighter and it would have been a GREAT movie...

Good pop corn movie

Will not go into movie history as the greatest movie ever, but a good empty your mind and enjoy, movie

My Two Sen

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Jan 27 2013, 11:27 AM

Old school fantasies anyone?
Never ending story sequel
Love it n would like if it'll make remake

Ah good old Wolfgang Peterson

Actually, I probably wouldn't enjoy a remake

I feel that the original is... perfect!!

Never did like part 2 and 3...

Also sad to note that Jonathan Brandis, who played Bastian in the second movie, is no longer with us...

Willow (1988)

In the 80s, George Lucas was at his peak.

The original Star Wars trilogy made him a ton of money.

The said movies' toys and merchandising (T-Shirt, Coffee Mug etc) is still making him tons of money.

Indiana Jones the first of another franchises was making him tons of money.

Industrial Lights and Magic, a company he founded, specialising in movie Special Effect, because of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, became the industry standard (was making him tons of money)

He started Pixar and then sold it to Steve Jobs... making him tons of money, so as stated he was at his PEAK.

One thing did allude him, the movie rights to The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings!!

So much so that he said to himself, what the hey, I'm RICH and powerful, I'll write my own version of The Hobbit and the resulting product is Willow...

I do remember going to the cinema to see this and at the end I went... Meh!!

They wanted the Han Solo-ish main character (loveable Rouge) and selected Val Kilmer to be Madmartigan. Nobody and I say NOBODY can out Han Solo, Mr Harrison Ford...

In The Hobbit and Lord of the Ring, a bunch of guys basically said, Let's Go on a Road Trip, and did, Willow the main character (who interestingly resembles a Hobbit) in forced into a road trip whilst he is constantly always wanting to return to him family at his village.

There are too many elements from The Hobbit and The Lord Of the Rings, which inspires George Lucas while he was writing the script. As good a writer as George is/was, Tolkien he is not.

The RICHNESS which is in Tolkien's writing, is simply non existent in Willow...

More emphasis was place in, can we have a monster here, or, can we do Trolls and we make them walk on a ceiling (eg special effects stuff) rather then giving us rich story or fantasy...

Having said that, this is probably one of the first movie that used the computer's "Morph" effect (way WAY before Michael Jackson's Black and White).

Video and Sound transfer are good, but because of the age of the movie, there are two special effects scenes that seems a little cheesy compared to today's standards...

I also appreciate the fact that this movie introduces Warwick Davis to the world.

The 80s were a mini Golden Age for Fantasy movie. Ranging from expensive Big Budget movies like Willow, Legend and Dragon Slayer, to the more modestly budgeted Beast Master (I still like this), Sword and Sorcery etc (not a complete list, give an old guy a break. Writing all this stuff from memory)

I think with big budget movies like Legend (1985) and Willows (1988) which didn't lose money but made lower then expected returns and cause a drought for fantasy movie!! Movie executive basically went, but fantasy don't sell and would point to those two movies as example...

I'm ranting...

This is a passable movie for a lazy Sunday afternoon...

My Two Sen

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Mar 6 2013, 11:55 PM

Val Kilmer went on to marry his pretty co-star in this one...Joanne Whalley, though they divorced later on...just some trivia Thought he was pretty cool in this one.

Old school fantasy....you should check out The Princess Bride....classic.

Princess Bride is my all time favorite fantasy movie.

Inconceivable!

"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha... "



Just re-watched this a few days back....

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

This movie, surprisingly, gets better after each viewing.

I have already watched this in 3D and 48fps 3D in the cinemas.

The little nuances that Peter Jackson pepper all over the movie is very entertaining and the more I watch it, the more I pick up!!

I have previously reviewed this and it is here:

The Hobbit Review (Mov Freak)

It is a shame that I do not have a 3D TV as yet and cannot relive the wonder, that is 48fps 3D.

c'est la vie

My Additional Two Sen

World Of Warcraft movie will be the next lord of the rings.

hey did someone forget fantaghiro chronicles? aigoo.....also theres a movie about a school boy who suddenly possess magic power and need to defeat villain call king maggot something like that(its due his stupidity)

The Hobbit (2012) Addendum

Peter Jackson is releasing an extended version of the The Hobbit, on Bluray in November 2013....

OH MY GOSH!!!!

Anyone here read the Eragon series (books)

I read somewhere recently, that the Inheritance Cycle, should have been adapted as a TV Series rather than movies...

I have read the books and I kinda agree...

Opinions?

Seventh Son (2014)

Why oh why oh why-o....

Why are movies like this made?!!!

If they had USD 95,000,000 to throw down the drain, throw it my way!!!

Why is wrong with this movie??

Let me count the ways

1) Jeff Bridges is a pretty good actor. Why is he "channeling" Sean Connery here (accent). Terrible, just TERRIBLE!! After R.I.P. and now this?? Shame on you Jeff, SHAME ON YOU!!!

2) Julianne Moore (Dragon/Witch Queen)... Really??!? Seriously????

3) Kit Harington.... He did not even GET the chance to show his abs!!! ( Yes, ladies, I am saying this on your behalf)

4) Ben Barnes (Tom Ward) grew up as a farmer (pig feeder) but after been "procured" by Jeff Bridges (Master Gregory) he is able to easily read ancient text and scroll.... Which farmer in ancient time did THAT!!!!!

5) I know I am cheesy... But this movie TAKES the CAKE!! Talk about cheesy dialog...

And many MANY more...

Hollywood, in the future, if you have 95 million to pour down the drain, call me, okay??

My Two Sen.

P.S. This movie really makes me believe that fantasy movie (Magic and Dragon based) is dead after the last hobbit... Rest In Peace Fantasy Movies...

Well, color me yellow and call me intrigued!!

I was in the cinema today and guess what.

Fantasy movies are not died!!

I saw several movies which had intrigued me and after returning home, I google-fu'ed and guess what I found?

A whole list of Fantasy movies, all showing in 2016!! (Based on my definition, namely, involving "magic")

My List is as follows:

The Huntsman: Winter’s War (April 22)
Alice Through the Looking Glass (May 27)
Warcraft (June 10)
The BFG (July 1)
Pete’s Dragon (August 12)
A Monster Calls (October 14)
Doctor Strange (November 4)
Trolls (November 4)
Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them (18)

Managed to catch the trailer for The Huntsman: Winter’s War (April 22) & Warcraft (June 10).

Higher chance of me watching the later rather than the prior...

Still good to know the genre is alive and well.

What about you?

Are you a fan of Fantasy movies?

Come share your thoughts!!

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005)
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008)
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010)

Watched the above back to back and have to add, from a story telling point of view, the first is still the best among-st the three.

And maybe, it is the only one with James McAvoy... (Well, he was is the really bad Victor Frankenstein (2015)...)

Also director Andrew Adamson attention to detail in the first one really made it stand out!

Note that the above was at the height of Harry Potter movies and Disney/Fox wanted to cash into the market.

Unfortunately, with each movie, the receipts grew less...

Which means... the sequels took longer and longer to get made.

The fourth movie was supposed to be available by 2013, and as of now (fortunately/unfortunately) Walden Media had lost the movie right to the material and that is now procured by Mark Gordon Company and it is not clear if Disney/Fox would be the distributor...

The Fourth movie, titled Chronicles of Narnia: The Silver Chair, is supposedly in the scripting stage, which means Will Poulter will not be reprising his role, Eustace Scrubb. (The issue with working with children is.... they grow up).

Mark Gordon Company had kinda stated that the fourth movie, although a continuation from the previous movies, is kinda a soft relaunch. Meaning, none of the original children are in it (with the exception of Eustace).

It is my believe the reason this series had not caught the hearts of the audience is because there isn't one person in the development team that truly truly know the material (Harry Potter had J. K. Rowling and LOTR and The Hobbit had Fran Walsh both who truly truly knew the material and was involved in the scripting and film making process)

I do hope the series gets things together and is completed in movie form.

I have read all the book (when I was a wee lad) and I have to say the last book (which is actually a prequel) tied all the stories up so beautifully and I was flabbergasted!! I still am.

Would be interesting if they can replicate that in the movie (though I doubt it. The books are very... narrative, so are LOTR and The Hobbit but Fran did am amazing job with the script, because she knew the material like the back of her hand!!)

Well, here's hoping!!

My Two Sen

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: Apr 12 2016, 11:32 AM

I did not watch Warcraft (2016) in the cinema.... Will wait for the blu ray...

What I am looking forward to the following:

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2016) Just watched the trailer
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children (2016) Also watched the trailer, wow!
Pete's Dragon (2016)
The BFG (2016)

Thoughts?

lolz why didnt u watch Warcraft on the big screen? the battle scenes alone is worth watch on the big screen.

I rate it better then the first LORT movie.

Fan of Fantasy movies series as well.