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Kidicarus
post Jul 7 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jul 6 2011, 07:42 AM)
thats just u

is true about 1080-720 no different in small in in term of movie

but this is games section, i damm clear can see the big different 1080p games on my PC between xbox 720p games...
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The difference is, when you play a pc game, you're stuck sitting upright or even hunched gripping a mouse with one hand and wasd in the other hand stretching to reach some uncomfortable weapon change key or something, maybe 60-90 cm from the screen. This is a very stressful situation. Of course you'll notice that the game you're playing has those awful jaggy lines.

Now gaming on a 50" 6-7 ft away, being at one with a comfortable sofa, hands on a controller with every button easy to reach, you're far more chllaxed. Sure you notice jaggies, maybe the textures are a bit low res - but you don't care because you're just too busy chilling on your sofa and enjoying the game you're playing. I mean the bigger the screen, the more obvious the jaggies and textures are supposed to be right? Wrong, because you're to busy chilling.


Added on July 7, 2011, 11:16 am
QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Jul 7 2011, 09:26 AM)
get the monster cable you wont regret it. I am also using it on my lg 32inch so called full hd. Between the cheapo cable and monster cable difference that i encounter is better framerate. Especially playing eternal sonata you know how gay are the graphic eveything do a big combo sure my xbox hang awhile but with monster its as smooth as tofu then. Color also enchance and much more detailed for graphic wise. You will also notice alot of glowing effect damn chun.
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lol first time I've heard of HDMI cable improving framerates. Placebo much?

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post Jul 7 2011, 11:19 AM

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post Jul 7 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 7 2011, 11:15 AM)
The difference is, when you play a pc game, you're stuck sitting upright or even hunched gripping a mouse with one hand and wasd in the other hand stretching to reach some uncomfortable weapon change key or something, maybe 60-90 cm from the screen.  This is a very stressful situation.  Of course you'll notice that the game you're playing has those awful jaggy lines.

Now gaming on a 50" 6-7 ft away, being at one with a comfortable sofa, hands on a controller with every button easy to reach, you're far more chllaxed.  Sure you notice jaggies, maybe the textures are a bit low res - but you don't care because you're just too busy chilling on your sofa and enjoying the game you're playing.  I mean the bigger the screen, the more obvious the jaggies and textures are supposed to be right?  Wrong, because you're to busy chilling.


Added on July 7, 2011, 11:16 am

lol first time I've heard of HDMI cable improving framerates.  Placebo much?
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Well when playing with cheapo cable i feel like the game not smooth but after changing gaming is so smooth i think that should have something to do with framerate rite??t

monster cables are truely good cables icon_rolleyes.gif belum cuba belum tahu lepas cuba hari hari mau. whats a placebo??


Added on July 7, 2011, 11:33 am
QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jul 7 2011, 11:19 AM)
Monster cable, it does everything without you knowing smile.gif
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very true that why its call monster!! rclxms.gif

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post Jul 7 2011, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jul 7 2011, 11:19 AM)
Monster cable, it does everything without you knowing smile.gif
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Your quote has been used for evil

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post Jul 7 2011, 11:59 AM

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LOL
not again... laugh.gif
another one thinking expensive HDMI cable will improve framerate laugh.gif



placebo effect:
you think you're ill, but doc didn't think so, so doc just prescribe you a normal vitamin pill tricking you it's medication
you feel better after taking the "medication" while in actual fact it has nothing to do with the illness, it's just all psychology.

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post Jul 7 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 7 2011, 11:59 AM)
LOL
not again... laugh.gif
another one thinking expensive HDMI cable will improve framerate laugh.gif
placebo effect:
you think you're ill, but doc didn't think so, so doc just prescribe you a normal vitamin pill tricking you it's medication
you feel better after taking the "medication" while in actual fact it has nothing to do with the illness, it's just all psychology.
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i see so that a placebo

Before that have you tried monster cable in the first place?? if yes then ok I have a PLACEBO icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 7 2011, 12:19 PM

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yes, I have tried my fren's monster cable and my cheapo RM15 cable

i curi-curi swap my friend's monster cable with my RM15 cable, and he's still bragging his monster cable gave him superior, better graphic
you should see his face when I show him what cable it is behind the TV laugh.gif

I lost count how many times I've repeat this, HDMI is digital, consist of 1s and 0s, either it work or doesn't work, that all. There's no middle ground like better or worst. Period

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post Jul 7 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 7 2011, 12:19 PM)
yes, I have tried my fren's monster cable and my cheapo RM15 cable

i curi-curi swap my friend's monster cable with my RM15 cable, and he's still bragging his monster cable gave him superior, better graphic
you should see his face when I show him what cable it is behind the TV laugh.gif

I lost count how many times I've repeat this, HDMI is digital, consist of 1s and 0s, either it work or doesn't work, that all.  There's no middle ground like better or worst. Period
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Ohhh SHIT I have a PLACEBO shocking.gif !!! well mine different case my friend came over to my place and play he is like weird how come the graphic is different soo i don't know rather trust ppl eyes then trusting my own eyes tongue.gif

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post Jul 7 2011, 12:56 PM

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user review from amazon:
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"I'd thought my 74" Pioneer Kuro and Sony ES Blu-Ray player were impressive enough, but this cable gave me a whole new swagger. I let it flop on the TV stand so everyone can comment on how long and thick it is. It's great, too - all the extra bandwidth Monster designed into it allows it to extract the best image from all your blu-rays. It extracts so much information it will even pull extra movies from discs that aren't supposed to be there. It is so cash. "

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post Jul 7 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Jul 6 2011, 11:25 PM)
lol mcm siod je laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 7 2011, 12:56 PM)
user review from amazon:
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post Jul 7 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 7 2011, 12:19 PM)
yes, I have tried my fren's monster cable and my cheapo RM15 cable

i curi-curi swap my friend's monster cable with my RM15 cable, and he's still bragging his monster cable gave him superior, better graphic
you should see his face when I show him what cable it is behind the TV laugh.gif

I lost count how many times I've repeat this, HDMI is digital, consist of 1s and 0s, either it work or doesn't work, that all.  There's no middle ground like better or worst. Period
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true.. but dont forget, this 0's and 1's might get dropped along the way due to some factors...
with monster cables, they claim that their cables can send these signals with minimum loss....
true to some extend, but can our eyes really detects the small differences, let alone on a small 32" screen? that is the real question here...

which is why, IMHO a monster cables is always a waste of money to spend on, unless you have a really 2X big screen ..
and if u can afford a rm30K-50K 3D TV, would you still use a rm15 HDMI cables?? i know I wont..... biggrin.gif

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post Jul 7 2011, 05:05 PM

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Actually it's not minimal signal loss, either you loss all or nothing. Signal loss normally only applicable to analog signals.
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post Jul 8 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Jul 7 2011, 01:34 PM)
Ohhh SHIT I have a PLACEBO shocking.gif !!! well mine different case my friend came over to my place and play he is like weird how come the graphic is different soo i don't know rather trust ppl eyes then trusting my own eyes  tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Yes... Our eyes served us the best...


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QUOTE(abundai @ Jul 7 2011, 06:01 PM)
true.. but dont forget, this 0's and 1's might get dropped along the way due to some factors...
with monster cables, they claim that their cables can send these signals with minimum loss....
true to some extend, but can our eyes really detects the small differences, let alone on a small 32" screen? that is the real question here...

which is why, IMHO a monster cables is always a waste of money to spend on, unless you have a really 2X big screen ..
and if u can afford a rm30K-50K 3D TV, would you still use a rm15 HDMI cables?? i know I wont.....  biggrin.gif
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Yes... Few thousand ringgit TV,original games but use cheapskate HDMI cable...
Cakap keluar pun malu la dei...


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:27 am
QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 7 2011, 12:59 PM)

placebo effect:
you think you're ill, but doc didn't think so, so doc just prescribe you a normal vitamin pill tricking you it's medication
you feel better after taking the "medication" while in actual fact it has nothing to do with the illness, it's just all psychology.
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Then doctor will said to the dying wounding people :

You are not bleeding to death.. Just your imagination.. Take vitamin and your wound will recover itself. tongue.gif tongue.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jul 8 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(samsk @ Jul 8 2011, 11:21 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Yes... Our eyes served us the best...


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:22 am

Yes... Few thousand ringgit TV,original games but use cheapskate HDMI cable...
Cakap keluar pun malu la dei...


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:27 am

Then doctor will said to the dying wounding people :

You are not bleeding to death.. Just your imagination.. Take vitamin and your wound will recover itself. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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where's your monster cable review and comparison?

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post Jul 8 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 8 2011, 12:32 PM)
where's your monster cable review and comparison?
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Told you already.. My TV is HD Ready.. Different a bit only...
If FHD, can see the different a lot.. My friend are using the same cable that we purchase from www.cable4hd.com..
His TV is FHD and mine is only HDR... So cant review on that cable much... Just the framerate are smoother than RM 25.00 cable.. Thats all.Graphic and TV dots,still need to use FHD only can notice the differents.. Wait for get Smart TV... Getting it few more months... Then review to you.. Dont worry.. brows.gif brows.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
If you are eager to get one, you may try it yourself.. I believe that you do have FHD TV.. Then you will notice the different.
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QUOTE(samsk @ Jul 8 2011, 11:45 AM)
Told you already.. My TV is HD Ready.. Different a bit only...
If FHD, can see the different a lot.. My friend are using the same cable that we purchase from www.cable4hd.com..
His TV is FHD and mine is only HDR... So cant review on that cable much... Just the framerate are smoother than RM 25.00 cable.. Thats all.Graphic and TV dots,still need to use FHD only can notice the differents.. Wait for get Smart TV... Getting it few more months... Then review to you.. Dont worry..  brows.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
If you are eager to get one, you may try it yourself.. I believe that you do have FHD TV.. Then you will notice the different.
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so that why i notice the difference because i am in the FHD.
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post Jul 8 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 7 2011, 11:15 AM)
The difference is, when you play a pc game, you're stuck sitting upright or even hunched gripping a mouse with one hand and wasd in the other hand stretching to reach some uncomfortable weapon change key or something, maybe 60-90 cm from the screen.  This is a very stressful situation.  Of course you'll notice that the game you're playing has those awful jaggy lines.

Now gaming on a 50" 6-7 ft away, being at one with a comfortable sofa, hands on a controller with every button easy to reach, you're far more chllaxed.  Sure you notice jaggies, maybe the textures are a bit low res - but you don't care because you're just too busy chilling on your sofa and enjoying the game you're playing.  I mean the bigger the screen, the more obvious the jaggies and textures are supposed to be right?  Wrong, because you're to busy chilling.


Added on July 7, 2011, 11:16 am

lol first time I've heard of HDMI cable improving framerates.  Placebo much?
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are we talking about the game reso or how comfortable sofa is??? whistling.gif XD

btw the post u quote actually missing a TV word instead of "in" word
i was refering to small TV like 32" or lower


Added on July 8, 2011, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jul 7 2011, 11:59 AM)
LOL
not again... laugh.gif
another one thinking expensive HDMI cable will improve framerate laugh.gif
placebo effect:
you think you're ill, but doc didn't think so, so doc just prescribe you a normal vitamin pill tricking you it's medication
you feel better after taking the "medication" while in actual fact it has nothing to do with the illness, it's just all psychology.
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u didnt read the 1st page arent you?
the ts was asking about the problem on his tv
which almost similar case on mine

the tv was just updated until support HDMI 1.2 only, my cable was HDMI 1.3
memang la ada view but getting weird refresh rate over many different games


Added on July 8, 2011, 2:38 pm
QUOTE(abundai @ Jul 6 2011, 05:56 PM)
a game designed for 1080p of cos got big differences with games that are designed to support 720p only...
i'm talking bout the same source/game played on a 32" 1080 or 720 tv...
the screen is too small to be noticeable.. i'm not saying there's no difference...
i'm saying human eyes wont be able to detect it... unless u sit really, really, really close.. and again i ask, who would seat 'that' close?
tak sayang mata ke?
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yeah, i`m using 32" tv as my PC monitor and console use. Sit far far make me fell like i missing something in the game
so i sit close, memang i will notice the HUGE diferent between my PC game which runnign on 1080p and xbox on 720p...

i just hate those jagged line, well, i know that all xbox game are mostly 720p so memang wont see any different on 720p and 1080p on same size tv. arent that common knowledge? also i said mostly xbox games are 720p, i didnt mean all, so what about those game really runnign on 1080p?


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I use some cheap locally made HDMI cable on my small screen. Ok only.

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