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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V7 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?

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post Jul 8 2011, 01:19 AM

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hi guys curious to know a few things.
i've been avoiding proton cars since my nightmare owning a wira.
so tell me about the inspira.

1. is the 2.0 with cvt the exact same thing in the mitsu version?
2. how would u rate the 1.8 manual? fast? sluggish? easy to shift?
3. is the 1.8 old tech or new tech? people told me it is old tech from previous gen lancers.
4. build quality how?
5. fuel consumption/range for 2.0 cvt and 1.8 manual per full tank, how much per full tank?
6. are spare parts expensive? whats the price for ori brake pads from proton?

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post Jul 8 2011, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 8 2011, 01:24 AM)
1. yes
2. dont know, i only have the 2.0P
3. the 1.8 and 2.0 has variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams - just like dual vvt-i and dual cvvt for hyundai.
4. mine so far so good, just have some rattling sound from the driver's door pedal when driving over rough surfaces.
5. 2.0, 9-10km/l for city and 13-14km/l for highway.
6. spare parts still unknown as most of them are from japan.im not sure about the brake pads yet. i dont think anyone could give you and answer on that yet.

if dont like proton, move on to T and H. your money, no1 forcing you to get one. smile.gif
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thanks for your honest answers.
i'll wait to get more info on the 1.8 manual, hard to find a good manual nowadays.
i'm driving civic '10 now but the inspira interest me brows.gif

QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 8 2011, 01:33 AM)
Ckk edi answered all the question above which is quite similar to everyone. I will let you know that I'm just like you ... I don't trust Proton at all but after getting Inspira 2.0p I checked everything my car has no defects .... defects are all depend on luck, even H&T has defect vehicles is normal for all the other brand. I'm a satisfy owner of inspira, well temporary still havent find any problem with my car.
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when u say 2.0p that means the top of the line 2.0 model with cvt?

QUOTE(chyapp @ Jul 8 2011, 01:35 AM)
u sure will be like me.. we are the luckiest one.. no defect till now my car 3K already... hehehehehe
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whats your average mileage per month?
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post Jul 8 2011, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 8 2011, 01:45 AM)
to be honest, stick with your civic, no point getting a same segment car, if want to change, get a better one straight.
i like my inspira, but i do feel that civic is better.
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i dun intend to sell my civic for an inspira.
my gf been complaining her city too under power & high fuel consumption.
so thought maybe 2.0cvt or 1.8manual is the way to go since she likes manual.
i myself used a honda jazz before and know cvt gearboxes really are effective and fuel saving.
there are alot of family activities so more room is better.

QUOTE(chyapp @ Jul 8 2011, 02:19 AM)
i try to save econ abit when i good mood.. i dun brake alot...
i purposely slow and make the car moving on...
so so far 1 full tank around 490KM to 530KM like that


Added on July 8, 2011, 2:23 am

brother... so easy ma..

RM 1.90 per litre ma... X 59litre = 112.10 lo...

normally u will pump when reaches almost empty ..so around 40 ~ 45 litre everytime

so almost RM 90 lo...
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thats really good mileage.
running on semi/fully syn oil?
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post Jul 8 2011, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(chyapp @ Jul 8 2011, 02:34 AM)
semi only... may be later will change to full syn...
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for ori oil they force u to use petronas rite?
whats the ori oil for mitsu cars?
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post Jul 8 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 8 2011, 02:57 AM)
if not mistaken its syntium 1000 for mitsu, but i am
using syntium 3000 now..i would say they do force you to use petronas oil else they say other oil may voil warranty...scare you & you will agree to petronas...
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thats the thing about driving new car.
gotta use the expensive thing they recommend else warranty void.

QUOTE(tzeweng @ Jul 8 2011, 04:01 AM)
i tink all inspira drivers hv to be pro ... once u ask a slightly amateurish question also u will hv to be prepared to get bashed.. too many pros in this thread
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it is good to have pro's here if not you won't get the answers you want.
as long as you give the details of what is required.

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 8 2011, 06:51 AM)
city high FC? i dont think inspira can outdo a city in terms of FC, 2.0 vs 1.5.
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FC is more about power to weight ratio than pure engine capacity.
the city she is driving is the new one she bought in 2009 (1.5 + normal automatic).
unfortunately for the malaysian market this engine gearbox combo is terrible and very fuel thirsty.
but since all the idiots complain without reason coz rumours CVT no good.
so this is what they get.
cvt versions of jazz and city no longer available in SEA.
would u believe my civic does better range than her city? sweat.gif

QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 8 2011, 06:55 AM)
er...dun expect Inspira to have very good FC or compare to Jazz...this is after all a 1.8/2.0 engine compare to Jazz 1.5.
When it comes to city drivimg, you can only get 9km/l or so. What's the FC of ur Civic in city drive? But why ur gf complain city high FC?? The only one good thing about City is good FC... You GF rev kaw-kaw is it? If rev kaw-kaw, Inspira will be even worst FC....but you won't have to worry about underpower coz Inspira loads of power. If you drive manual, even better.

I don't think CVT gearbox are fuel-saving...it depends more on the engine and car size and most importantly road conditions. It may helps a little bit, a few percent, but definitely not much.  Even Proton dun dare to claim so much for the new Persona R (Campro + CVT)...only claims improvement of 4%....and this is probably under optimum condition.

IMO, CVT gearbox gives a smooth driving experience, that's all.


Added on July 8, 2011, 6:58 am
Can 'trade in' with proton and top up difference? I thought Proton dun stock 3000 in SC??

Anyway, for low mileage people like me, probably 800 will be fine...by 6 months time only hits 5k...so no problem. Have to change 6 months or 5k...whichever first!
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i never compare the jazz 1.5 cvt to inspira 2.0/1.8 cvt.
if u read correctly i stated i understand the benefits of cvt from my previous ride.
cvt is great since there is an infinite gear ratio and always in tune with engine speed.
i used to travel up to genting alot when i was working in food service industry.
driving a cvt up the mountain my lil' jazz 1.3 cvt can out run BMW's going up hill icon_rolleyes.gif
plus the range is always high, even when driving hard and fast still can get 400kms + per tank.

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 8 2011, 07:07 AM)
yup, agreed..our cvt may help with FC, but not as much as it does for the smaller cars. the CVT for a 1.5 and 2.0 and 3.5l is fundementally different, that is why when you visit Jatco's website, the usual word that is associated with CVT which is improve FC is not even stated on the CVT for large vehicles.

bro sothy goes to the sc that can trade in.

im not too sure about syntium 3000's availablity in proton or eon, but i mostly do my service in eon. when mine reaches 20k km, will find out if it is possible to get it outside or not..then will hentam a mobil 1 in it. 
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i'm not too sure about 1.8/2.0 cvt in the mitsu.
but the big difference between city/jazz 1.5 cvt compared to the 2.4 cvt in the odyssey is that the 1.5 cvt's don't have a torque converter, the 2.4 cvt has. direct drive without torque converter helps with FC but the rev's have to be kept low if not the cvt kenot handle, which is why jazz/city has max torque at 1500rpms.

QUOTE(DM3 @ Jul 8 2011, 08:48 AM)
zenix,

if u like manual, go for it.
for me i like it and where got other 1.8 and above with MT?
its damn nice to whack and dun worry much bout damaging gearbox, my putra i also did the same only the gear shifter broke tongue.gif after 7 yrs .
its very easy to shift and different frm the older MT g/box
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exactly thats what i was thinking!

QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 8 2011, 09:17 AM)
hi there, i own 1.8 manual inspira -

2. The clutch is soft and you can slot into gear easily. Wayyyy to soft for my liking, i still love my savvy clutch. and another thing, the gear throw is very short plus the handbrake position is not ideal for manual driver.

3. I dont have an idea if its new or old tech. imho its an old tech because 5 speed manual has been in cars for how many years already?

4. Build quality is lil improvement over other Proton models. Dont expect BMW quality though LOL. But inspira is not a defect free car, some owners experience the nyek nyek sound from absorbers, wind noise

5. FC? just click my siggy Usually full tank i can achieve 550~650 km.

and final answer is... GO TEST DRIVE 
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the pariah thing is most 3s dun have manual to test sad.gif
i dun expect bmw quality as long as it is as good as korean is good enough.
i reli sked wira/waja nightmare case build issues.....long time proton owners would know this.

QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 8 2011, 09:21 AM)
Actually, no such thing as ori oil or what...all engine oil can be used as long as it adhere to the ratings.
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yes, but the thing is if u want your warranty u gotta follow whats in the manual sweat.gif
which is usually refer to as ori oil.
like honda ori oil is actually from idemitsu but if u bring that brand of oil to SC they say "ini tak ori no warranty" doh.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 01:23 AM

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hey fella's anyone interested in boelube engine oil?
my friend working there can get a good price wink.gif

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post Jul 17 2011, 02:36 AM

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this is my personal opinion.

if u can afford the inspira and you like it alot buy it.
if not you'll feel regret later.
many of my friends tries to be financially wise at first get a cheaper car in the end feel not shiok the car not fast enough, don't look nice enough, etc. mod here and there until even more money spent.
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post Jul 17 2011, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jul 17 2011, 02:42 AM)
Yah true, anyway arranged for a test drive next week at night, the sale guy agreed to allow me to stress the car by going uphill in balik pulau and teluk bahang here biggrin.gif cool2.gif . He wants to prove to me that the MIVEC can handle whatever bukit u give it lol.

He told me that the 2.33% interest loan package is only available for maybank, and the qouta is now full. Anyone able to confirm this?
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there is no such thing as a quota.
this is his tactic to hook you in with 2.33% but he cannot get it for you.
then when u oredi decide and kenot undo he will say...."use this bank..."
usually THAT bank he recommend he gets extra commission.
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post Jul 17 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jul 17 2011, 11:31 AM)
I see, that's why I feel its fishy. Cuz I feel that the interest rate should be dependent with the bank, not the sales person. Regardless of how many interest I get for my loan package, the "discount" the SA give me should not be affected right?
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the usual car salesman only gets basic salary like rm700 every month.
his income will come from other things, e.g.

tint : cost price rm1000 he charge you 1500
bodykit : if original he doesn't earn so much but replica from outside shops which he claims is cheaper but looks just as good he can eaen alot.
bank commision : different banks give different commision, although maybe proton as a company can get 2.33% from maybank but the salesman mebbe don't earn anything, but other banks approach him and say they can offer 2.55% and that guy earns rm100 for every customer.

the "discount" usually comes from his sales commision and trade-in value.

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