fantastic car. all the review i read practically worship the car.

and its proven how great it sells by seeing how much there are on the road.

manufacturers of course are smarter nowaday due to intense competition

its those who bring the car in like bermaz, naza tat influence the final package for customer also.

also pricing decisions are not entirely in their hands as well. if too cheap nanti UMW whine.

well why do u think thats not happening?

theres more camry sold per week than mondeos in a year.

2007 camry 2.0g about 97K . sell price was 137k.

5 yrs sit 40k nia. farking good resale value.
my waja 4 yrs also sit 35K.

the way u post ur arguments in support of toyota cars is plain shameful.

no wonder cybermaster is having a field day here.

mercedes benz cannot buy, is a junk. Buy Aston Martin.

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Added on August 3, 2012, 4:58 pmand such issue, if existed, would now be rectified due to much publicity. they would be commiting business kamikaze if it was left unattended.



This post has been edited by vey99: Aug 3 2012, 04:58 PM

on idle it sounds like a lorry next to the teana.
no wonder they put all those 4 tailpipe /sport etc cos its noisy car.

i dun mind a lorry sounding car like the bmw 320d and 520d. but id probably top up and take petrol version

sir, as i understand the current 2.0e/g is almost identically specced as the previose version.

the advantage is now its assemble here, and new look fresh in the market.

the bold grille and back are in line with current design trends of big grille and squarish butt

the majority target of camry owner, couldnt care less 3/4/5/6/7/8 speed.

why should toyota change?

and the car will generellay be more gently driven, resulting in less wear/tear, lasting longer and more reliable.


camry does not compete on power, because its market are ppl who want basic transport that is reliability and do not want to pay too much for the bells and whistles. that is the market catered to. for the slightly more discerning buyer there is the 2.5L for more oomph and higher trim.

speccing the car indentical or highly similar to other makes, is going head on in a comeptition that is not necessary.

what i mean to say is, the audience is specific. and toyota are happy getting the market share of this audience.

its unlikely ppl want to drive the same car as everyone else. but in term of brand perception by the buyers, korean is still behind japanese. maybe that will no longer hold in future, maybe even now, but brand perception is not easy to changed.

the last thing i want to do is whine about my korean/whatever car that is giving me problem when i yuumcha.

if u refer to me, yes, i drove this model for a couple of years.

great car.

i am making the assumption there is limit to how many they can sell a year, say their capacity allows only 12,000 cars. then their job is to optimise profit for the 12,000 units. given hisotrical stat, the camry is the bestselling d-segment for a while now already. they have reach a point where they cannot sell more/produce more, so they have found their optimum price point.

buyers of camry sit on the middle of the bell curve. hence, the feature set will also be middle of the curve.

u want basic jap, go for teana at ~15K less.
u want feature filled car, go for non-jap.

thats the business end of things, i feel.

on the consumer end, no one is FORCING them to buy, yet they do, despite the choices available.
VSC is a moot point on 2.0 arena, cos virtually no jap cars have VSC for 2.0 segment.

hence, its the simple requirement of customer - i duwan fancy, i want solid , comfort motoring without the bell and whistle.
i want a steady ownership experience (reasonable mainenance/servicing) and a decent resale value.
i want to walk into servis centre and each SC has a desk, and i can sit in lounge drink free drink watch astro as i wait for my car to servis.

things like that, aren't really there for the other makes. the buyer couldnt care less about VSC/crusie control/bluetooth.

when push come to shove, businesses will react. but given the camry driver demographic, it will be much slower than the altis/vios.

This post has been edited by vey99: Aug 8 2012, 08:13 AM

simple point is no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. its consumer choice.
you can campaign/lobby for better safety, but i feel we are not strong enough or have the right infra to do it in meleisial.

hence, the only realistic way to have better safety is via natural market force
e.g demand. cars wif better safety get better sales if consumers choose that path

however, that is also not the case. because a car is many things to many different people.
it does not only perform one function.

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Added on August 11, 2012, 1:57 pmeven the outgoing camry also no diskaun
i was hoping to get 10k off the 2.4V but SA said not gonna happen




This post has been edited by vey99: Aug 11 2012, 01:57 PM

same here i was asking for my fren.

its not just the car itself.
toyota have a good servis network, some quite impressive sc location and facility also.

the same price u bought it , of course. thats why ppl buy toyota for its excellent resale value.

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Added on September 24, 2012, 8:23 pmi believe the test was a vertical sprint. downwards.

This post has been edited by vey99: Sep 24 2012, 08:23 PM

more execs (non business owners) buying the car for the executive feel.