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Investment PAN'GAEA - PARAGON | SOLSTICE | ECLIPSE [OT], The Cyberjaya city centre living by OSK

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spydermind
post Apr 23 2012, 09:02 PM

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Well, i guess all of us need to be aware that the in the past 2 years, there were easily more than 3k condo/service apartment launched ...Shaftbury, Garden plaza, Serin, Lakeview, Gardenview, D'pulze,domains, Bayu (SSP2), mutiara ville, Mirage, the place, etc.

Most importantly, all these are not completed or handover yet....the market for condo / service apartment will be pretty competitively in the next 2-3 years ..... Of course, like many projects everywhere, it will take time to reach occupancy rate of more than 80% in 1-2 years time. This will be the challenge for investor.

On the other hand, when some of these retails, commercial and lifestyle infrastructure completed, it will certain pull some people to stay in Cyberjaya....how many , well..hard to say....

The problem with property is that, when it is lack of supply....suddenly there will be influx of new projects, and when there are too many, developer will slow down....if they slow down too much, then it will create another case in which demand eventually more than supply....

In property investment especially a place like cyberjaya....is very subjective to individual appetite.
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(swisspalm @ Apr 24 2012, 04:19 PM)
Do you think a normal company will come to cyberjaya to setup office? only IT company with MSC status will do.

Do you know why a MSC company want to come to Cyberjaya to setup office? because they want to maintain their MSC status license. in order to do that.. they HAVE to rent a office space with MSC status which is having fibre optic wiring, dual redundant power supply, uninterruptible power supply and back up generators for whole electricity load.. and etc. Please find out the requirement from google.

NeoCyber Office (next to domain) have all these facilities, ppl will choose NeoCyber instead of Paragon .. coz it meets the requirement.
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Actually, there are plenty of areas are with MSC Status. So, this might not be a strong reason nowadays...
I would say it is more of a mutually sustainable environment that some of these major MSCs would need certain partners or supporting industries.


Added on April 26, 2012, 1:41 am
QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 24 2012, 01:17 AM)
this area has high concentration of higher end properties.. market segment is niche and mostly targeting high networth individual... not sure will they come over to cyberjaya given amenites still not mature.. lack of public infra, no dedicated hospital for cyberjaya, need schools, need more commercial outlets...

no offence but just my personal opinion.. need more choyuk and national "Type" schools to attarct more high networth family to live here... (got abit choyuk now but not the "school" in near future)..
for convenience, they might just stick with puchong area..
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You are probably right. The problem is like chicken and eggs, without more people moving in, restaurant, retail or supermarket will be hard to survive....but without all these, the rate of people moving will be slow....but in most cases, people need to move in first like many other area. All of these residential development will need to spurs further the commercial development to create a more sustainable township, of course, some township remains as majority commercial forever. So, it is hard to kind of benchmark cyberjaya with other typically residential oriented township. Furthermore, Cyberjaya is surrounded by established township (dengkil, serdang/seri kembangan, putrajaya. providing more options for people to stay....

This post has been edited by spydermind: Apr 26 2012, 01:41 AM
spydermind
post Jul 7 2015, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Jun 22 2015, 05:58 PM)
Can you share with me how you calculate it? have you include the maintenance fee?
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unfortunately, the market price is determined by what the market is paying and not pay on what our expected ROI.

In the past, many property sales people, when being asked about market price, they will ask you at what price you bought it , and then add 20-30% on top. This is not right actually.

 

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