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TSedwardsiow
post Jul 1 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 1 2011, 03:58 PM)
After 4 pages of discussion, I still dont understand the issue.  Like I said, it is only 3.3% of the total cost!  It is the he says she says thing.  If you dont itemized all the changes with variation orders, then you can argue until the cow come home still can't resolve. 

I made it very clear to my subcon that any work started without me signing the variation order I will not pay for it because I would not have budgeted for it.  That would be the "free work" thing.  If you think that for RM150k, you can lump a lot of free work in there and without the clear understanding, then that's the issue.
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Clear understanding already made during the process....All agreement already been done....the problem is he don't admit after done...

Example, 150K including building a staircase(free - Clear understanding + agreement has been done)..after staircase has built, one month later, request money of staircase from me...said the staircase cannot be free, need to pay money...


P/S: If you are contractor, will you build the staircase without any agreement before that? Can you manage to force a contractor to start doing for you FREE? unless I am a gangster and holding a knife....

It is not the agreement problem, not the communication problem, even not my problem because we already discussed and agreed each other..It is his integrity problem..his behaviour problem..

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jul 1 2011, 04:44 PM
TSedwardsiow
post Jul 1 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(trinityz @ Jul 1 2011, 05:02 PM)
give me the contractor's name and contact number. i settle for you.
just kidding of course. don't let the RM5k blind u. Focus on the WORK. Tell him to finished up the job and see the workmanship. If it's up to your expectation, then just pay him the RM5k for the good job he has done. Heck, you can even pay him more. Nothing beats the satisfaction of getting the renovation done nicely according to your requirement. After all, rich bloke like you sure can afford RM5k one mah
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1) I am not satisfy with the workmanship
2) I am not satisfy with the his attitude and integrity
3) I am not rich
4) Just left one task and I only keep 5K..He won't listen to me because he already taken 145K...and right now he requests more money...So, the only token of negotiation power is 5K... rclxub.gif


TSedwardsiow
post Jul 1 2011, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 1 2011, 06:33 PM)
I am sorry ... may be I am stupid or something ... if the quote that he gave you clearly stated that the work includes building a staircase then it is part of the scope.  We have not seen your agreement but I would bet that your agreement did not included in the written scope of work.  Again, in my sub cond proposal/quotation to me he would spell out EXACTLY what is he doing down to what rooms being built, which surfaces will have tiles, how many light points/powerpoints, number of windows and size of the windows and type of the windows.  I just dont understand how can one argue on the staircase work being free or not.  Clearly it can't be free but if it is not written as part of workscope but verbally agreed as part of RM150k, then it is an issue.

BTW, I hope your real profession is not Project Manager, i would never hire you!  biggrin.gif
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I know everything should written in black and white...I know that I am wasting time here...anyway, thanks for your help along the way...


Added on July 1, 2011, 6:55 pm
QUOTE(michaellee @ Jul 1 2011, 05:21 PM)
Free stairs? Whether it is concrete steps or wooden stairs, it would costs quite a bit to build one and you think he should give it to you for free? Honestly, just pay up and treat it as lessons learn. Unless you feel you are a bigger bully, then tell him to go fly kite.

What do you expect people in LYN to help you? Guard your house and protect you from harm?
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I repeated a lot of time...If really quite a bit to build one why want to agree when I ask for free??

I think you all don't know what I mean...maybe my english is poor..

anyway, thanks for your help along the way....


Added on July 1, 2011, 6:58 pm
QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 1 2011, 05:58 PM)
hahaha.  good one..

the problem is that he expects FREE things
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Yes, I did requested for FREE..any problem? If he don't want, why still do for me? why don't reject me? Am I Najib so he has to say YES?

anyway, thanks for your help along the way....


Added on July 1, 2011, 7:02 pmI repeat one more time....I DID NOT request for free AFTER he had done..I requested for free BEFORE he start to do....He AGREED to do for FREE...

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jul 1 2011, 07:03 PM

 

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