QUOTE(munak991 @ Apr 4 2014, 06:58 PM)
Worth a read if you wanna know about DSD more.http://www.ayre.com/insights_dsdvspcm.htm
Headphones Headphone Amplifier and DAC Recommendation, portables, desktops, amps, dac, lai
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Apr 4 2014, 06:58 PM) Worth a read if you wanna know about DSD more.http://www.ayre.com/insights_dsdvspcm.htm |
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Jun 24 2014, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(sheridankamal @ Jun 23 2014, 02:41 PM) Hi guys, seeking for your advice. M50x is not picky at all and easily to get driven well, JDS Labs C5D is a good choice. Is iPhone 4s with iOS 7 and JDS C5D is a good pair? I'm using ATHM50x with it. Thanks QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 24 2014, 10:49 AM) hi guys.. i'm in a hard time looking for a small portable USB DAC to stream out audio from android phone, something like UD110 DAC.. can recommend me any? just want to bypass internal amp from my Note 3 to pair with an external portable amp, just want to try some set up.. please enlighten me. TQVM Bro, why not the UD110 then? I used to use the iBasso D-ZERO that way This post has been edited by psychoactive: Jun 24 2014, 03:16 PM |
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Jun 24 2014, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 24 2014, 03:39 PM) errr... inside a player, even handphone, already have a DAC and amp, right? what i want to bypass is the amp.. i'm not quite sure, but double-DACing is fine i think...lol... yes, the reason i want to do this is because i want to use an external amp, which i don't want double-amping, hence i want to bypass the internal amp... Double DAC is not valid lol. you couldn't bypass the internal amp in your handphone but you can bypass both by using usb otg level DAC. That's why you looking for DAC like UD110.. they receive digital data instead of analog line stage output. Meanwhile, can take a look on HifimeDIY Android DAC... I think they sell it on their website. LINK QUOTE(sheridankamal @ Jun 24 2014, 05:12 PM) QUOTE(psychoactive @ Jun 24 2014, 03:15 PM) M50x is not picky at all and easily to get driven well, JDS Labs C5D is a good choice. Doing some survey and later i discovered FiiO E07 and E17. What is ur opinion on these two. Thanks. Better bass impact, treble response, cleaner background and more detailed. From all the aspects the E17 is better than the E07, unless you need the dual headphone out. Even at some point, you could buy an E09k desktop amp as an upgrade, E17 can placed on the dock on it. This post has been edited by psychoactive: Jun 24 2014, 05:32 PM |
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Jul 24 2014, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jun 25 2014, 03:45 PM) Please redirect if this is the wrong section. I suppose you're saying you wanna use a DAC from ipod? (Digital data out stream) I am using an ipod classic 6 gen, and have just transferred about 100gb worth of lossless files (ALAC). I am looking for a DAC which I can use to hook up between the ipod and my stereo amp. At the moment, am just connecting directly to amp. Please advise, thank you in advance. Looking forward to hearing from the aficionados here. You have only two options, get the Fostex HP-P1 or Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo -dB. They are not cheap tho and the latter can only used with an amp since it only has dac line stage out. An alternative would be getting a LOD (line out dock) cable to use with your amp. QUOTE(seba @ Jul 2 2014, 09:15 AM) source: my laptop Aune T1 is a good purchase based on your budget, plus you could tube roll later on according to your preference. cans:hd558 requirement: none, whatever is best for value budget:rm500 nuforce dac3 or aune t1 or something I dont know, pros help pls Another one would be Fiio E17. I personally do not recommend NuForce dacs. QUOTE(Nick Amizan @ Jul 21 2014, 02:10 AM) Hi I'm a newbie here, just bought myself an ATH M50x a week ago, I use it on my ipod or watch movies on my laptop. But to me the bass is just not enough. Thinking of getting an amp. Any recommendations? Amp with bass boost or EQ-able Amp. May i know your budget? This post has been edited by psychoactive: Jul 24 2014, 02:12 AM |
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Jul 24 2014, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(seba @ Jul 24 2014, 04:20 PM) Already purchased Aune T1 second generation from liquidgal bro haha, glad I didnt choose nuforce dac lol, bad response by E1. Enjoy the Aune T1, get to try the globe amperex/mullard if you could Thanks for the recommendation nonetheless! or even the rares... like telefunken This post has been edited by psychoactive: Jul 24 2014, 05:01 PM |
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Aug 3 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 3 2014, 01:25 PM) Hi! Sorry for this late response. Setup has changed somewhat. Running audirvana plus in Mac mini feeding a naim system now. Thanks for the help though. What model of M2Tech you're referring to? I suppose it's the HiFace dac. Do you need the 32/384? Consider the price of HiFace is higher than the Dragonfly. I've got an older system, including an old audiolab 8000dac which will not decode 24bit/192. So I need a DAC between the Mac mini and the preamp. I was looking at M2tech or Audioquest Dragonfly. Anyone with recommendations please? And no, not the Chord Hugo, thank you! From my verdict, Audioquest Dragonfly sounds more flatter and balanced compared to HiFace, which sounds slightly bright and thin on the high and resulting in much open sound, but slightly recessed. But, isn't you need a line level DAC? I mean you're connecting it to your Pre-amp. If you need a line level DAC, i suggest you to get the ODAC. I'm a huge fan of ESS Sabre, it makes me to be much preferred to pick up the Dragonfly. and.. Chord Hugo is not for us mere mortals listener QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 27 2014, 10:39 PM) Well, at least you will get some idea later regarding amp etc. Bugle boy is slightly half step down from the Globe... if not on-par As for tube rolling, it's never too late or early. You can contact liquidgal for demo unit of her tube. I read that buggleboy got a good reputation but too bad I don't have the chance to try. The best way for you to know is by listen with your own ear. Regarding the post, I think someone else using the same name. |
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Aug 3 2014, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 3 2014, 04:26 PM) And now the most important question, where can I get the Dragonfly and the corresponding cables? I need RCAs at the preamp end. Dropped you a pm thanks!!! QUOTE(alpha001 @ Aug 3 2014, 04:40 PM) Vmoda crossfade lp2 Budget bro? Never tell your budget, later people will ask you to get something like Chord Hugo... Edifier x120 reccomend me dac that can be used on both headphone/speaker portable if possible |
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Aug 3 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Aug 3 2014, 05:32 PM) Yea it's kinda off budget but I don't see anything worth grabbing at that price. See this, I got Rm500 in my pocket, walked to a friend who's selling burgers and be his sleeping partner for 2.5 months. In the end I pocketed another RM400. Now I got a headphone and e18. QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Aug 3 2014, 05:37 PM) Sleep with your burger friend for 2.5month only RM400? I couldn't agree more, for that price its a little bit out of few best options. E18 is indeed good for pc and smartphone. But I doubt nexus 4 support usb audio natively. QUOTE(PedangGila @ Aug 3 2014, 05:46 PM) LOL of the day. It's the kernel level that disables it, especially for Nexus devices.. In my case, my Nexus 7 running KitKat 4.4.4 wasn't able to work with usb audio. I had to flash another cm-based custom rom in order to make them work. ++ USB audio came with Jellybean at n4 got kitkat already, by right it should be working. Unless we're seeing hardware barrier. |
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QUOTE(hsiungz @ Aug 18 2014, 12:21 PM) wanna ask if fiio e11k good? Considered as one of the best bang for bucks btw im using superlux hd681evo on laptop, mainly for game n movie, thinking of getting amp cz volume seem low even if put on max But are you trying to connect the amp with your laptop audio/headphone out? Double amplification isn't good. Try to get a DAC/AMP combo instead, like the E07k/E10k/E17. This post has been edited by psychoactive: Aug 18 2014, 02:08 PM |
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QUOTE(hsiungz @ Aug 18 2014, 04:37 PM) Thanks for replying, but can elaborate bit bout double amp? means built in amp in laptop > external amp > headphones? Before a DAC (sound chip) could send the analog sound waves to your headphone, it need to be crossed the amp section. In which case, yes as you have said it, your laptop amp -> E11k = double amplification. noobie here Double amplification will result in amplifying noises and increasing distortion. If you get a external usb DAC/AMP, it will bypass your laptop's DAC. Additionally you get better fidelity with most of the external DAC. This post has been edited by psychoactive: Aug 18 2014, 04:50 PM |
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QUOTE(hsiungz @ Aug 18 2014, 04:54 PM) ohh..i think i get it now, will it cause prob similar when increasing volume in media players like vlc to >100%? glad i ask first, was gonna place order tis week What do you mean by problem caused by increasing volume in media player?Usually we are maxed up all the volume control within the player/system, to avoid data clipping to decrease the quality, Alternatively the better way is to use media player like foobar2000 and use ASIO/Wasapi to completely avoid the situation. Only adjust the volume level on your AMP. |
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Aug 18 2014, 06:22 PM) To add more, if you have a shiat source (on board sound card, low quality mp3, low quality recording), amp up will only increase the shiat to double shiat. So I suggest you to get your source right first before you amp it up. Indeed, cannot imagine amplifying garbage... LOL QUOTE(hsiungz @ Aug 18 2014, 08:52 PM) i got confused whn i reread oso, its smthing like amplifying shiat like said, i guess fiio really is the best bang for buck? For the budget users, indeed they are. |
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QUOTE(chabuchabu @ Aug 20 2014, 01:49 PM) Ok ... then budget < Rm1000 ... Your sound preference? You can get a desktop DAC/AMP unit, maybe you can leave your shonyun to do portable jobs I recall , tube got a lifespan just same like the light bulb? solid state vs tube , tube tends to be more warmth and sweet to listen to compare with solid state , but solid state can last longer ? That is what I recall before going into solid state ... But I now looking for DAC instead ... since amp I can use back my shoyun 306a. E7 as DAC a bit weak to drive... |
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QUOTE(chabuchabu @ Aug 21 2014, 11:51 AM) Ok... for me (subjective), i will buy DAC/AMP instead. I always prefer a headphone output from my dac/amp. It also makes me having less hassle to try on every DAC and AMP and to see which pair has the synergy to work together well. Unless you get a selective DAC unit and AMP from within the same manufacturer, that way usually they could pair up well. Usually in the higher end, a DAC/AMP is pretty superior and only what constrains it its the amp, with that case, just upgrade by getting another AMP. QUOTE(cloudist12 @ Aug 21 2014, 04:00 PM) Hello all , I do not suggest double amping at all cost. (pairing the output from your laptop to your headphone) I am new to this forum , I just bought a pair of sennheiser hd555. I think would like to add more juice a bit by buying amps , dac , cmoy amp or soundcard . (i dont know please help me) Problem is I dont know which one is better , I hope you guys can suggests me any dac , amps or sound card Budget : RM100-200 Usage : mainly for music , classical , jazz , details and crisp , good soundstage without ignoring bass .. Gaming ( dota 2 , starcraft 2 , sometimes fps games ) Recently viewed : Asus sonar DG , fiio e6 , fiio e11 , cmoy amp Audio source : on board pc sound card , phone (lenovo p780) Mobo : Asrock B75 Pro3-M Motherboard How I use the headphones : Mostly in front of my PC , playing games while listening to music , few times went mobile . Any comments and suggestion are highly appreciated . Thank you Yes.. it may as you think that, you could add more "juice"... but think of this, what happen if you add in a bad signal and amplify it? It doesn't correct it. In another sense, it simply takes all the noises/distortions and boost them. I suggest you save up a little bit more, look into something like Fiio E07K/E10K which consists of DAC + AMP for your juice-needed headphone |
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QUOTE(AxelTG @ Aug 22 2014, 09:51 AM) I just want to mention that your PC has a DAC+amp internally, same goes to PC sound card. Thanks for the clarification, indeed that's the idea i was going to give. Now, if you solely use an amp, you are effectively double amping. If you get an external DAC however, your PC will bypass the internal DAC+amp, so your music will go through the external DAC. But DAC alone doesn't have adequate power to drive your headphone, so an amp is needed. That's why bro psychoactive recommend you some DAC+AMP combo as a fuss free solution. Hope this clear things up a bit. QUOTE(cloudist12 @ Aug 22 2014, 11:21 AM) I see . Now i'm clear about the problem . Well , thanks for your explanation . Look into used unit of E07k around i suppose. Or even better if you can get yourself a iBasso D-ZERO. (both are around 2xx for used unit)Lastly, I wanna ask recommendation on specific model .. I will look onto fiio e7 and other series . e7 is a bit pricy , only afford rm200 dac/amp QUOTE(~@Sharks@~ @ Aug 23 2014, 03:20 PM) Hey guys, I've gotten myself a Shure SRH 440, tested it and I don't feel anything special about it. lul. Plugged it into both my laptop and iPod and I'm kinda sure it's not showing it's full potential. Even listening to SRH440 via my Nexus 7 can drive it to around 70-80% performance. Are you sure you are fond of the SRH440? or you blindly bought it? I'm suspecting that the laptop's sound card cannot be depended on... Any recommendation what I should get (cheap and good, around 100+?) to help my situation? Nonetheless, get a Line Out Dock for your Ipod, combo with a Fiio E6. Tada, cheap and good with plenty of power. |
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QUOTE(ronron @ Aug 25 2014, 05:12 PM) hi all masters, I recommend Aune T1 DAC/AMP. Very clean output and good SQ even with stock tube. You can even upgrade the tube to improve the SQ.newbie here. looking for a entry level/budget/simple amplifier or any dac+amplifier combo for audio entertainment + gaming. budget : RM500 lower better source: Desktop asus b85m-g (all pcie used up) headphone : not decided yet. might be superlux HD681 Evo. thanks. Can drive HD681 EVO easily. Can even drive my hard to drive headphone with ease. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(lolokzarecool @ Aug 26 2014, 01:51 PM) Hi all audiophiles Aune T1 is right in your budget but not the O2+ODAC combo. The O2+ODAC costs a lot more.. Source : Y400 Lenovo Laptop Headphone : DT 880 (250ohm) Budget : RM500 Can recommend any USBDAC+AMP for this setup?? Im currently looking at AuneT1 and O2+DAC . Which is better? Also is there any Fiio amp+dac that can drive DT880? Been looking at E07k and E10K. Not sure which is better >< From my experience, The Aune T1 can drive the your DT880 with pretty plenty of power, pretty good sound and can further improve SQ by tube rolling, why not? And also from another experience, I had been using the DT880 with E17 + E09k Combo, it drives well and sufficiently. |
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QUOTE(lolokzarecool @ Aug 26 2014, 03:21 PM) Thanks for the reply. Around that price, if not cheaper. Roughly a Aune T1 is around RM580 right?? How does the combo E17+E09K work exactly? From my understanding E09k itself is a desktop amp+dac already is it?? Whats the E17 there for? x.x sorry quite noob at this stuff. Oh also how much does the E17 anb E09K cost respectively?? E07k vs E17? E17 much better? E17+E09K works via transmitting the line stage level to the E09k from the DAC in E17. E09k is a standalone AMP doesn't consist any DAC. E17 costs around 4xx and E09k is RM3xx. |
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