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Headphones Headphone Amplifier and DAC Recommendation, portables, desktops, amps, dac, lai

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post Jun 17 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 17 2013, 12:19 PM)
jaben carry the centrance dac that u said and u can head over there to listen for urself. tat dac gt 2 models 1 is the dac with amp while another is the dac alone model which is the lx model. the review for the dac/amp model wasn't so good. the dac alone model have better review although it's the totally same design by jz strippin out the amp.
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I got it, thanks! I now looking at another one tongue.gif

ehp-o2d which has similar design to JDS Labs O2 + ODAC biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 18 2013, 12:24 AM)
Where are you locatedĀ  hmm.gif
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What mean? Me most probably go for Schiit Modi & Magni laugh.gif

Guess what I left my USB DAC T-Muso PCM2704 at hometown, use back onboard soundcard, my cheap Blue Thunder I speakers back to sound messy, worse if I plug in Sennheiser HD 598 doh.gif

I bring out a dusted Soundblaster Tactic (3D) Alpha DAC (this I got it when I bought a suffering tight gaming headphones), surprise rclxm9.gif , it works well with the speakers and my HD 598, sound in great control, but max volume = just enough volume when I put on my headphones sweat.gif , I guess this is why we need amplifier? cool.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Jun 18 2013, 01:12 AM)
Yes that's why you need amps for your headphones.
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actually I think still OK, coz that volume quite big, if add again a bit overkill and hurt ears.


Hi all sifus, I am testing a track, I feel some distortion in the middle, can anybody confirm with me is DAC or the track issue? I use loseless flac track though.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzzzqT8UjEs...dit?usp=sharing

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post Jun 18 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Problem @ Jun 18 2013, 01:31 AM)
Which part of the track specifically?
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Start from immediately on 1:11, then a bit a bit to 1:40 rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Problem @ Jun 18 2013, 01:52 AM)
If you're referring to the slight after effects, I don't think that sounds like distortion but more like intended by the producer.
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That mean is the track problem laugh.gif OK thanks rclxms.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Problem @ Jun 18 2013, 01:55 AM)
I did not say it was a track problem, try listening to other sources of the same music, youtube,etc. You can hear the same thing
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But such distortion should not be intended, hmm wink.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 18 2013, 08:32 PM)
after download and listen to the track, hav to agree wif Problem, the whole track is really badly recorded. Then run 2 diff algo audio checking on it and seem like the recording is jz bad  hmm.gif
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Actually this track can be used to test speakers, how bad a speakers distort, great speakers has low distortion rate when open loud and not noticable if lower down to mid volume rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 19 2013, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 18 2013, 09:40 PM)
i m not sure wat distortion mean but jz start the track, the bass totally is bad. bass is suppose to be deep and solid but tat bass jz went totally bloomy. thn the high jz like suddenly cutoff and wont go higher @@... and there is many more and i m lazy to state them out 1 by 1... i never heard such a bad recordingĀ  rclxub.gif even mp3 sound betterĀ  rclxub.gif mayb i shouldn't use my hifi to play it... even those drama op n ed sound better thn it
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haha...you ears become gold ears and too picky, I don't that the recording is bad at all, it demonstrate a huge sound stage especially for gaming, I'm not sure you use to play that. Apart from distortion on bright side, the bass is fine with me. Well, I understand what you mean by the bass, well more precisely decorated bass layer, well that's what Blizzard come out in place. Difference bass layers different needs so there is really no perfect one lah rolleyes.gif

While most people comment that the following are neutral in sound:

Audinst HUD-MX1
JDS Labs ODAC + O2
Schiit Modi + Magni


How about
Headstage: The Arrow Amplifier
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It's more musical color and adapt to almost every headphones?

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omg, I read somebody said this is good for Sennheiser HD 598, it's so cheap and so beautiful:

http://www.amazon.com/Hifiman-EF2A-Usb-Hea...r/dp/B002IV9Z5U drool.gif
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post Jun 19 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 19 2013, 01:06 PM)
i used to play wow b4 and tat time i play using my 2.1 speaker setup and not my 30k hifi XD dun feel tat bass was tat bad at tat time

i understand wat blizzard wanna do wif the soundtrack but jz tat their recording stuffs is bad... tis is quite significant in the soundtrack u upload, when the music go high, there is some cracking and noise. tis type of cracking and noise mean tat the signal feed from amplifier to the recording equipment is out the range of tat equipment. so whn tat recording eq is unable to correctly record the signal at the suppose frequency, there come the cracking and noise. u will know tis if u tried do some recording on ur own
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hmm, it is not that bad, as least not as bad as some of my favourite suck live tracks (though I love them so much), coz I concentrate on the feel the music deliver rather SQ sometimes, have to adapt my ears sometimes, if not everything will not be bearable haha brows.gif


Oh gosh, I found another tube DAC/AMP, it's Aune T1! Is anybody using tube one? No? So poison drool.gif
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post Jun 19 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 19 2013, 01:34 PM)
b4 get poison by tube, pls know the main drawback of tube  drool.gif XD drool.gif  tube sound better whn heat up, so for best sound quality, u always nid to run the tube for a while before listening. every tube has limited lifespan, mean u will need to change the tube after some time. tube don't really sound so well with those fast pace pop songs.
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yay, I heard there are some drawbacks too, what do you think? Should I go for these 2:

Hifiman ef2a
Aune T1

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post Jun 19 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jun 19 2013, 02:50 PM)
if u dun mind tat 3 drawbacks tat i stated thn it's ok to get the tube.
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You have just splashed some cold water on my head sweat.gif hahaha...I'll try to forget those beautiful tubes biggrin.gif

Anybody use JDS Labs C5? Extra bass layer with good SQ? blush.gif

Most probably will go for ODAC + O2, since more easy to get it, as compare to Schiit Modi + Magni blush.gif
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post Jun 20 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jun 20 2013, 02:57 PM)
I have a gut feeling it will pair awesome, since o2 itself is a master piece
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yay rclxms.gif a lot of great reviews about JDS Labs product

QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 20 2013, 12:36 PM)
Anybody use JDS Labs C5? Extra bass layer with good SQ? blush.gif
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Now I just notice, JDS Labs got another amp for bass cool.gif

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post Jun 20 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jun 20 2013, 05:44 PM)
that is tiny one, classy as hell, but lack the power for big guns, normal headphones will work splendid
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lol you seem to be a JDS "FAN" laugh.gif

Hi guys, I just got my JDS Labs ODAC, it is great working with my HiVi Swans M200MKII, but hoh when I use it with my Sennheiser HD598 it seem to be something wrong? Is it because I am not using an headphone amplifer? I check the guide mention also ODAC need to be used with an headphone amplifier. Hmm, but I this month no more gold, haha, need to wait another month to buy JDS Labs O2 amplifier o_O
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post Aug 5 2013, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 5 2013, 06:56 AM)
if using ODAC alone, the audio you hear will be quite raw, need to go through an amp, just temporarily use any head amp u have lying around,

besides, HD598 really needs an amp to be "sounding good"
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I got a cheap T-MUSO PCM 2706, which I believe is combi DAC + amp, that one works better than ODAC alone, hmm will get an O2 amp I guess whistling.gif

Hi guys, can recommend me the best amplifier for passive speakers and headphones? I just need an RCA, 3.5mm, and headphone jack out. I got the ODAC as my best DAC ady xD

Hi guys, wanna ask why ODAC cannot work well without amplifier? Is it because most integrated sound chip work because of pre-AMP + DAC?
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post Sep 3 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 3 2013, 10:52 AM)
DAC has no integrated amp, it only works as a translator of signals, thats why it wont work without an amp, or sound awkward. Others you see works because they HAVE amp with the DAC, they are DAC+AMP, a 2 in 1. Some companies name their products to mislead the consumers, they call their product a DAC but actually is a 2 way option hardware, a DAC+ AMP or DAC Line out, both in one chassis
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post Sep 6 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 6 2013, 10:13 AM)
have magni only, but they say modi is a cleaner version of ODAC, with more resolution
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I ady bought ODAC, then now I know that modi is more cleaner? shocking.gif

Planning to get O2 amp drool.gif

Can't believe a set of Sennheiser HD 598 + O2 + ODAC costs me 2K+...
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post Sep 6 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 6 2013, 12:30 PM)
O2? might as well magni, i had o2, put aside not using now, maybe will sell it, magni just looks so classy
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Are you planning to sell your O2? Best price?

sweat.gif Maybe just that you too fancy about the looks? As most reviews mention they are almost same:

O2 + ODAC = MAGNI + MODI?

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post Sep 6 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 6 2013, 02:27 PM)
mine is local DIY product O2, not JDSLabs

O2DAC =/= M&M,  M&M has better performing than O2D, at least from what i tested on O2 vs Magni
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Maybe your "local" O2 amp got some problem? blink.gif

What is the different except more clearer? Any more details?
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post Sep 6 2013, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 6 2013, 02:56 PM)
it follows the same exact circuit board, so wouldnt be any issues, the magni somehow gives better clarity, and bass appearance. That means it is better in the bass and vocal regions
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hmm, maybe is the headphone leh? hmm.gif

Since you using same circuit board, but there is no way to prove that the board is better/same/not better than original manufactured board oh? wink.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 08:48 AM

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Currently, I'm using Marantz PM6005, plan to sell it, as I'm going to power amp way, so I'll need a preamp with DAC and headphone output, sth like an integrated solution, thinking to ask to customize O2+ODAC combo to work as preamp?

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