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Headphones Headphone Amplifier and DAC Recommendation, portables, desktops, amps, dac, lai

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post Mar 1 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(aimtenso @ Mar 1 2014, 11:40 AM)
Hi, currently looking for Desktop DAC and my budget around RM 2.5k - 4.5k++

the DAC to be pair with Graham Slee Ultra Linear Diamond Edition + Grado PS1000

currently surveyed DAC is:

- Matrix X-Sabre 32bit/384kHz DSD DXD Audio DAC
- YuLong SABRE DA8 DSD 32Bit 384KHZ DAC Decoder & Amplifier
- Grace m903 Reference Headphone Amplifier and DAC
- Cambridge audio DAC Magic Plus
- Centrance DACmini
- Graham Slee Majestic DAC (Last choice since over budget but really interested in it)

Among all those DAC, really confused which one is the best for my setup... would like to ask for help to reduce my choice or can suggest any other good amp!
and is there any possibilities to get the DAC mention above in malaysia, beside the Centrance DACmini (saw it in Jaben)

thanks!  biggrin.gif
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Grace Design is on the upwards of almost RM6K, way above your budget.

You may want to add Meier Audio StageDAC as well for your consideration if you dont need the plethora of inputs/outputs what the others offer.

Centrance DACmini is fine but do bear in the mind the USB is limited to 24/96
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post Apr 4 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Apr 4 2014, 12:21 PM)
Im abit of confusion here,

I using the iDAC, it is a Digital to analogue unit.

But then there is something come out iDSD...

What is DSD function as compared to a DAC?

Understand that the terminology

DSD- Direct Stream Digital
&
DAC- Digital Analogue Converter

is it that DSD act as another digital supportive unit to decode sample rate? then only it passed thru iDAC?
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DSD is a subset of DAC where DSD purpose is to decode files that are encoded in DSD.

If you're talking about iDSD, it is a DAC with DSD encoding functionality whilst retaining your standard PCM playback without any conversion from DSD to PCM as SACD normally convert DSD to PCM on ouput.

In case you're wondering, PCM or Pulse Code Modulation are files that you're currently listening.

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post Apr 4 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Apr 4 2014, 06:58 PM)
Then what kind of format is in DSD??
Why lots of it use it on mobile device?
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Pretty sure you can google what format is dsd, DSD format is different from your typical PCM files period. Whether there is any material difference between PCM and DSD, let your ears decide as some "claim" DSD is closer to analogue sounding than digital but to me, digital is still digital

Incorrect when you said when it's alot on mobile device, it's just recently manufacturers are trying to profit from the DSD hype when DSD has been there for a very long time.

I would think that there are far more DAC decoders that have DSD compatibility rather than portable devices.
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(chabuchabu @ Aug 20 2014, 12:20 PM)
Here I comes to DAC thread~

Source : laptop, desktop , Cube C30 , mi3 (mp3 320kbps)
Equipment :
- Amp : Fiio E11 , Shoyun 306a
- DAC : Fiio E7 , asus U1
- Cans: AD900x , ms2i , D2000 , q701 , dt880 600ohm, tdk ba200, Vsonic VSD1 , cube F1
Requirement : Prefer warmth , less bassy , neutral , wide sound stage
Budget : @.@ prefer not tube amp ... lazy to change tube from times to times
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Better state your budget or else some might just recommend you a $10,000 DAC/amp instead.

Side note, its not necessary to change tubes all the time if you're lazy. Main reason why some steer away from tube amps is costs ofbuying tubes and testing various tubes to find the best setup.
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post Sep 15 2014, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(D.Sync @ Sep 15 2014, 02:05 AM)
Thanks a lot for the recommendation liquidgal.  I myself am aware of the bottleneck and is currently 'training' or 'tuning' my ears to get used to the amp to detect any noticeable room for improvement. Guess it will again start to burn hole in my pocket.
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If you trust what some folks at headfi believe for budget setups for the HD800, the schiit vali is a great alternative to M/G stack, then of course Maxvla would suggest m-stage as well. And maybe Violectric V200 as well.

Been at your situation on matching it properly but I think my HD800 setup is complete, for now.
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post Sep 15 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(D.Sync @ Sep 15 2014, 01:56 PM)
Yea a nightmare for the ears but a blessing to my bank account blush.gif FYI I went with the upgrade route of headphones instead of DAC and amplifier over these past years whenever I have spare cash to spent. Now that I settled with a flagship headphone such as HD800, guess it is time to change to another route. From what I am aware, not most people (me included) realize how much difference an amplifier can made to the headphone sonically. In fact, before venturing into audiophile world I always thought that for an amplifier to qualified driving a headphone only means able to provide adequate amount of loudness without having to crack the volume knob to max. But I know that this is not the only considering factor as there are also factors to consider as well. Not sure what terminology I should put here  hmm.gif
Thanks E1-AKG for the thorough advice. I remembered that the shop owner in which I purchased my HD800 did mentioned that my current setup is definitely unable to reveal my HD800 well but I thought I could bear with it. After listening for almost 2 weeks now I started to realize the limitation of them, hence starting up this post. Now that you mentioned both the Oppo HA1 and Chord Hugo I do recall reading great reviews about them but later opt it out of my list considering my limited budget. Out of the two I think Oppo HA1 might been more affordable for me in the foreseeable future considering its price tag of ~USD 1200 compared to USD 2495 for Chord Hugo. May I ask have you personally try the HA1 and care to share some of your brief reviews or initial impression of it?

Say I am to purchase it somehow, may I know any seller on LYN nor Lelong.com that sells them as I can't seemed to find any. One immediate action is to browse through our local distributor but realize that they only sell Oppo smartphone.  hmm.gif
I often read some back and forth discussion between the Schiit Vali, Asgard 2, and Lyr matching with HD 800 and can't seemed to conclude which one might suit to my listening preference. Considering where I am currently staying at (Segamat), there is not a single shop carrying audiophile grade equipments and the closest one, presumably, is Jaben Malaysia in Subang Jaya. So feeding off user reviews is my only option.
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E1 sells Oppo HA-1, for HD800 it is really your preference on what you're looking for, after listening to my DNA Stratus, I rarely go back to my old setup of using the headphone out from the grace design m903 as it sounded very lean in the bass, and should I say, digital?

Never heard much of Asgard 2 nor Lyr powering the HD800 as most comparisons I have seen is comparing the Vali against the M/G setup to which the vali seems to hold it's ground for being something so cheap but gives a nice musicality tone to the HD800.

For solid state amps, you'll need to be careful on how some reviewers and owners rate their tonality signature as it can vary for one another, like for one most seem to agree that the Violectric V200 is slightly on the darker edge spectrum whereas the Schiit Mjolnir is more aggressive sounding.

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post Sep 15 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Sep 15 2014, 10:01 PM)
Hmm. I wouldn't say the Violectric V200 is "dark" dark, but it's just that the presentation is smooth.
That's one characteristic which I've found most consistent among all cable swapping, DAC/CDP swapping, headphones swapping I've done.

In fact there was one time I've managed to component-match my V200 to sound utterly dry and brittle. doh.gif Never again.
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To me, well for the HD800 I personally thought it sounded a little on the darker tone. Something I was considering to decide on the HD800 pairing back early this year.

On the HE-500 however, it sounded as you said smooth and authoritative.

I'm surprised however that you managed to get the V200 to sound sound dry and brittle despite its sound signature.
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Hegel HD12, BMC PureDAC
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post Feb 21 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Feb 19 2015, 11:59 AM)
Hi, currently i am connecting my speaker to my monitor using DP's audio. Should i get a external DAC for better sound quality? Budget around 100 to 200. Lowyat shop got sell them? My mobo dont have any sound card slot so sound card is out of option.
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Best to upgrade your speakers first in order to benefit the most from the changes in improvements that you're seeking.

Only then once you're satisfied, an external DAC and/or amp should suffice.
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post Mar 22 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Mar 22 2015, 12:34 PM)
Hi guys, I bought a pair of Bayerdynamic XP3's only to realize that my ears cannot tolerate IEM's (instant tinnitus after using just ONCE at slightly above medium volume). (I've never used IEMs before apart from apple ear pods)

How much do you think I can sell it off (no hygiene issues since the rubber bits can be replaced right?) for?

Also, I'm planning to get either a m30x or m40x to replace them, which one should I choose since the price diff is about RM60 ish? I listen mainly to acoustic/vocal heavy/instrumentals and I never go near EDM or heavy metal etc.
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Don't see how IEMs are giving you tinnitus, it's usually due to bad listening habits (listening at loud volumes for long periods) historically and you don't get it overnight or over a short period of time but prolong exposure.

Getting headphones or loudspeakers as an alternative won't solve the issue if you already developed tinnitus.

Besides, this thread relates to ampflication and DAC recommendation. Headphones & IEMs are on the other pinned thread.

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post May 26 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(wordtalks @ May 26 2015, 05:01 PM)
Can someone tell me what really is amp and dac?

By basic means I know amp is amplify the frequency
and dac is convert to analog to sound better.

How do they really differ from each other?

Had to get amp/dac, my headphone is not up to my par dy. laugh.gif
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One converts your digital signal which is encoded in 1s and 0s into an analogue waveform which is listenable while the other amplifies that signal that was converted.

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