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 Which project in KV achieves the highest gain?, Launched Since 2000

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post Nov 12 2012, 01:07 PM

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FINAL VERDICT :-

Malaysia Property Olympics Games 2012 Medal :-
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GOLD MEDAL : DESA PARK CITY GNG
SILVER MEDAL : AMAN SURIA GNG
BRONCE MEDAL : 28 PROJECTS (THE LIST IS TOO LONG TO BE INCLUDED HERE)
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post Nov 12 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 12 2012, 01:07 PM)
FINAL VERDICT :-

Malaysia Property Olympics Games 2012 Medal :-
(Overall Winner)

GOLD MEDAL : DESA PARK CITY GNG
SILVER MEDAL : AMAN SURIA GNG
BRONCE MEDAL : 28 PROJECTS (THE LIST IS TOO LONG TO BE INCLUDED HERE)
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Include la bro. Sure or not Aman Suria is silver? How about Setia Eco Park, Alam Damai, Temasya Glenmarie? Those are a lot better than Aman Suria in terms of appreciation.

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post Nov 12 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Nov 12 2012, 06:58 PM)
Include la bro. Sure or not Aman Suria is silver? How about Setia Eco Park, Alam Damai, Temasya Glenmarie? Those are a lot better than Aman Suria in terms of appreciation.
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shortest time should be TG...vp 2 yrs close to 120%
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post Nov 12 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Nov 12 2012, 07:12 PM)
shortest time should be TG...vp 2 yrs close to 120%
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Yup. That is the highest I have heard so far beside Alam Damai bungalow by I&P.
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post Nov 12 2012, 07:29 PM

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Actually bandar kinrara before starting the crazy queing up to weeks in 2008, it is started by the 1 night queing of bk2 idaman homes. and very large homes available some even up to 50 × 95 if i am not mistaken. Those big houses opposite giant.
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post Nov 12 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(kohts @ Nov 12 2012, 07:29 PM)
Actually bandar kinrara before starting the crazy queing up to weeks in 2008, it is started by the 1 night queing of bk2 idaman homes. and very large homes available some even up to 50 × 95 if i am not mistaken. Those big houses opposite giant.
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post Nov 12 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Nov 12 2012, 07:36 PM)
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sori out of topic. i was wondering their appreciation
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:28 PM

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Desa park city gold medal for 2012?? How many percent gain for DPC in 2012?
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jerrykk @ Nov 12 2012, 12:50 PM)
3m is facing main road where rental can fetch 10-13k.
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Some ppl just can't und basic prop investment rules.


Added on November 12, 2012, 8:55 pm[quote=AMINT,Nov 12 2012, 06:58 PM]Include la bro. Sure or not Aman Suria is silver? How about Setia Eco Park, Alam Damai, Temasya Glenmarie? Those are a lot better than Aman Suria in terms of appreciation.
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post Nov 12 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 12 2012, 01:07 PM)
FINAL VERDICT :-

Malaysia Property Olympics Games 2012 Medal :-
(Overall Winner)

GOLD MEDAL : DESA PARK CITY GNG
SILVER MEDAL : AMAN SURIA GNG
BRONCE MEDAL : 28 PROJECTS (THE LIST IS TOO LONG TO BE INCLUDED HERE)
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Har? Olympic Games 2012 Medal?

The medal was distributed in terms of ...... what?
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 12 2012, 01:07 PM)
FINAL VERDICT :-

Malaysia Property Olympics Games 2012 Medal :-
(Overall Winner)

GOLD MEDAL : DESA PARK CITY GNG
SILVER MEDAL : AMAN SURIA GNG
BRONCE MEDAL : 28 PROJECTS (THE LIST IS TOO LONG TO BE INCLUDED HERE)
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The verdict is based on appreciation of properties for the past several years, not only in year 2012.

SILVER Medal was offered to Aman Suria as their basic terrace house price was priced @ RM488K and today the price has appreciated @ 1.488M. A glimpse of DPC, Awesome!
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:13 PM)
The verdict is based on appreciation of properties for the past several years, not only in year 2012.

SILVER Medal was offered to Aman Suria as their basic terrace house price was priced @ RM488K and today the price has appreciated @ 1.488M. A glimpse of DPC, Awesome!
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Highest still Tropics studio: 190K to 570K in 4 years. Aman Suria easily more than 8 years since launch. Studios beat landed. Even DPC also less than that. Fastest appreciation in DPC is Zenia. Launched 850K now RM2MIL but % appreciation only 135%.

Myth Busted: Landed has highest appreciation. tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(rocklee88 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:20 PM)
Highest still Tropics studio: 190K to 570K in 4 years. Aman Suria easily more than 8 years since launch. Studios beat landed. Even DPC also less than that. Fastest appreciation in DPC is Zenia. Launched 850K now RM2MIL but % appreciation only 135%.

Myth Busted: Landed has highest appreciation. tongue.gif
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Seasoned investors are looking at absolute returns not %. There is a property was sold at RM45,000 and now is valued at RM450K.... 900% capital appreciation. Does this property deserved a PLATINUM Medal? Nope! I would rather earn appreciation amount in RM rather than %.
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:38 PM)
Seasoned investors are looking at absolute returns not %. There is a property was sold at RM45,000 and now is valued at RM450K.... 900% capital appreciation. Does this property deserved a PLATINUM Medal? Nope! I would rather earn appreciation amount in RM rather than %.
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Only % gain is meaningful. You can easily buy more units of Tropics. Of course, better to limit it to something like minimum 150k and above. If you use absolute amount, I might as well say a land bought at 100 mil, now 110mil, gain 10 million beat Tropics or DPC anytime.

For anything >150k at purchase time, I think Tropics is the best.
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post Nov 13 2012, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(rocklee88 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:20 PM)
Highest still Tropics studio: 190K to 570K in 4 years. Aman Suria easily more than 8 years since launch. Studios beat landed. Even DPC also less than that. Fastest appreciation in DPC is Zenia. Launched 850K now RM2MIL but % appreciation only 135%.

Myth Busted: Landed has highest appreciation. tongue.gif
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"BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL minds thinks small" (just purely on % returns). From your example above, I would rather earn RM1.15M (Zenia, DPC) rather than RM380K from Tropics.

Better still invest/buy land @ RM100M and sale @ RM350M ... made handsome profit of RM250M. Yes, you can say... such a BIG capital... so, back to my statement above "BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL minds thinks small". BIG developers like SPS/Sime/Sunway are looking at RM2.5B sales/profits smile.gif

"BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL mind thinks small"

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post Nov 13 2012, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 13 2012, 12:48 AM)
"BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL minds thinks small" (just purely on % returns). From your example above, I would rather earn RM1.15M (Zenia, DPC) rather than RM380K from Tropics.

Better still invest/buy land @ RM100M and sale @ RM350M ... made handsome profit of RM250M. Yes, you can say... such a BIG capital... so, back to my statement above "BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL minds thinks small". BIG developers like SPS/Sime/Sunway are looking at RM2.5B sales/profits smile.gif

"BIG Mind thinks BIG, SMALL mind thinks small"
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Zenia purchase price 850K. Can use to buy 4 units of Tropics plus 90K spare change. Then, can earn 1.52M instead of 1.15M only from Zenia. wink.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(rocklee88 @ Nov 13 2012, 07:28 AM)
Zenia purchase price 850K. Can use to buy 4 units of Tropics plus 90K spare change. Then, can earn 1.52M instead of 1.15M only from Zenia.  wink.gif
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Buying 4 cheap units equivalent to 1 unit of an expensive house is harder in the bank's eyes.
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post Nov 14 2012, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Nov 13 2012, 08:55 AM)
Buying 4 cheap units equivalent to 1 unit of an expensive house is harder in the bank's eyes.
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well said... AMINT (experienced investor) smile.gif

1) Buying 4 cheap units would also used up the person's quota of 90% LTV (1st 2 properties) loan entitlement (for new investors).
2) My lawyers would prefer to give me 50% or maybe 70% discount on legal fees for 1unit X SPA+FA and may not agreed to give me the same discounts for 4units X SPA+FA (to much paper work for the same income/legal fees).
3) It's easier to say TODAY to buy 4 units of Tropics (Nov 2012 - after the price shot-up), but the sales of Tropics was very slowwwww during its initial launch. Only at a later stage the sales improves. At the initial point during launch, does anyone dares to buy 4 units under the same projects (high risks)... during that launched year? Only handful are gung-Ho but very rare.
4) OK ... lets stop here...


Added on November 14, 2012, 1:26 am
QUOTE(rocklee88 @ Nov 13 2012, 07:28 AM)
Zenia purchase price 850K. Can use to buy 4 units of Tropics plus 90K spare change. Then, can earn 1.52M instead of 1.15M only from Zenia.  wink.gif
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well said... AMINT (experienced investor) smile.gif

1) Buying 4 cheap units would also used up the person's quota of 90% LTV (1st 2 properties) loan entitlement (for new investors).
2) My lawyers would prefer to give me 50% or maybe 70% discount on legal fees for 1unit X SPA+FA and may not agreed to give me the same discounts for 4units X SPA+FA (to much paper work for the same income/legal fees).
3) It's easier to say TODAY to buy 4 units of Tropics (Nov 2012 - after the price shot-up), but the sales of Tropics was very slowwwww during its initial launch. Only at a later stage the sales improves. At the initial point during launch, does anyone dares to buy 4 units under the same projects (high risks)... during that launched year? Only handful are gung-Ho but very rare.
4) OK ... lets stop here...





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post Nov 14 2012, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Nov 14 2012, 01:25 AM)
well said... AMINT (experienced investor) smile.gif

1) Buying 4 cheap units would also used up the person's quota of 90% LTV (1st 2 properties) loan entitlement (for new investors).
2) My lawyers would prefer to give me 50% or maybe 70% discount on legal fees for 1unit X SPA+FA and may not agreed to give me the same discounts for 4units X SPA+FA (to much paper work for the same income/legal fees).
3) It's easier to say TODAY to buy 4 units of Tropics (Nov 2012 - after the price shot-up), but the sales of Tropics was very slowwwww during its initial launch. Only at a later stage the sales improves. At the initial point during launch, does anyone dares to buy 4 units under the same projects (high risks)... during that launched year? Only handful are gung-Ho but very rare.
4) OK ... lets stop here...


Added on November 14, 2012, 1:26 am

well said... AMINT (experienced investor) smile.gif

1) Buying 4 cheap units would also used up the person's quota of 90% LTV (1st 2 properties) loan entitlement (for new investors).
2) My lawyers would prefer to give me 50% or maybe 70% discount on legal fees for 1unit X SPA+FA and may not agreed to give me the same discounts for 4units X SPA+FA (to much paper work for the same income/legal fees).
3) It's easier to say TODAY to buy 4 units of Tropics (Nov 2012 - after the price shot-up), but the sales of Tropics was very slowwwww during its initial launch. Only at a later stage the sales improves. At the initial point during launch, does anyone dares to buy 4 units under the same projects (high risks)... during that launched year? Only handful are gung-Ho but very rare.
4) OK ... lets stop here...
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1) we are talking about higest gain.. dont care how you finance it..
2) i want to buy cash and it make sense buying 4 Tropics than 1 Zenia..
3) The topic didnt not specify how you fund it ... just mere stating which prop has the highest gain in percentage, no need to complicated the issue..
4) rest my case.. good night..


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post Nov 14 2012, 07:43 AM

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1) The fact of the matter is LTV 70% was not yet in effect when Tropics was launched.
2) Tropics allows small investor to gain their first pot of gold and it allows bigger investor to earn big. Saw a guy whacked about 10 units all over the place.
3) When Zenia was launched, sales was also slow and many units not taken. But that was not what the topic is about.
4) This topic is about highest gain, so Tropics win.
5) 4 units of Tropics is better than 1 unit of Zenia because more liquid, more rental income and can sell partially if needed.

No mater how one looks at it, Tropics win on all counts.

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