The appreciation getting lesser for all the new launch!

Not only tat, negative appreciation could happen
20% = no gain / loss if timeline dragged longer

I would say property investment is not easy, there are risks involve, the moment you pay 700/sf to the developer, it also indirectly indicates that you entry cost is 840/sf!

Be careful when invest

Not only tat, negative appreciation could happen
20% = no gain / loss if timeline dragged longer

I would say property investment is not easy, there are risks involve, the moment you pay 700/sf to the developer, it also indirectly indicates that you entry cost is 840/sf!

Be careful when invest

Highest gain residential project as at 2014 : ( pls help to update )

DP = developer's price TP= Transacted price

Condo / Service Apartment / Soho / Studio

Highest gain residential project as at 2014 : ( pls help to update )

DP = developer's price TP= Transacted price

Condo / Service Apartment / Soho / Studio

1) Changkat View (Dutamas) (condo) - 180K (DP 2005) - 475K (TP 2013) = 163% (8 yrs)
2) Axis Atrium (Soho) - 100K (DP 2006) - 260K (TP 2009)= 160% (5 yrs)
3) The Tamarind (Sentul) (condo) - 180K (DP 2003) - 450K (TP 2010)= 150% (8 yrs)
4) Royal Domain (Jln kuching) (condo) -180k (DP 2004) - 450K (TP 2012) = 150% (8 yrs)
5) Ken Damansara 3 (PJ) (condo) - 200k (DP,2005) - 480k (TP, 2012) = 140% (6 yrs)
6) Suriamas (Sunway) - Rm180k (DP2006) - 430k (TP 2012) = 138% ( 6 yrs)
7) Savanna (Bkt Jalil) (condo) - 240K (DP 2005) - 550K (TP 2011)= 129% (6 yrs)
8) The Zest (Ser Apt) (Kinrara) - 225K (DP 2009) - 595k (TP 2013) - 164% (4 yrs)
9) Seri Maya (Setiawangsa) (condo) - 220k (DP 2005) - 500k (TP 2011) = 127% (6 yrs)
10) The Tropics (PJ) (S Apt) - 190K (DP 2006) - 430K (TP 2011)= 126% (5 yrs)
11) Kuchai Avenue (Kuchai lama) (Serv apt) - 180K (DP 2007) - 400K (TP 2012)= 122% (5 yrs)
12) Pelangi Utama (Damansara) (condo) - 190k (DP 2001) - 420K (TP 2012) =121% (11 yrs)
13) Sierra Residensi Kinrara (condo) - 110K (DP 2006) - 240K (TP 2011)= 118% (4 yrs)
14) Casa Mutiara (KL) (S Apt) - 130K (DP 2004) - 280K (TP 2007)= 116% (7 yrs)
15) Casa Suites (PJ SS2) (condo) - 190K (DP 2005) - 400K (TP 2011)=110% (6 yrs)
16) Impian Meridian (Serv Apmt ) - 220k ( DP 2006) - 460k ( TP 2012 ) = 109% ( 6 yrs)
17) Sterling (PJ) (condo) - 270k (DP, 2005) - 550k(TP, 2012) = 104% (7 years)
18) Arena Green (Bkt Jalil) (Apt) - 134K (DP 2003) - 270K (TP 2010) = 101% (8 yrs)
19) Villa Makmur (Dutamas) (condo) - 200k (DP 2005) - 400K (TP 2012) = 100% (7 yrs)
20) MayTower (Ser Apt) (KL) - 170K (DP 2004) - 330K (TP 2011) = 94% (7 yrs)
21) Titiwangsa Sentral (KL) (condo) - 250k (DP 2008) - 470k (TP 2012) = 88% (4 years)
22) Midfield (Sungai besi) (condo) - 240k (DP 2008) - 430K (TP 2012) = 79% (4 yrs)
23) Anggun Puri (Dutamas) (condo) - 200k (DP 2010) - 350k (TP 2012) = 75% (2 yrs)
24) Solace - Setia Walk (Puchong) (Service Apt) - 288K (DP 2009) - 500K (TP 2012) = 73% (3 yrs)
25) PV10 (Setapak) (condo) - 220K (DP 2005) - 380K (TP 2012) = 72% (7 yrs)
26) Park 51, PJ (condo) - 270k (DP 2008) - 450k (TP 2012) = 67% (4 yrs)
27) Alam Puri (Jalan Ipoh) (condo) - 270k (DP 2007) - 430K (TP 2012) = 59% (5 yrs)
Landed

1) Tmn Esplanad (Bkt Jalil) (superlink) - 438K (DP 2002) - 1.55 mil (TP 2014) = 253% (12 yrs)
2) Adiva (Desa Parkcity) (link) - 460K (DP 2003) - 1.40 mil (TP 2010) = 204% (7 yrs)
3) Jalil Sutera (Bkt Jalil) (Superlink) - 540K (DP 2003) - 1.60 mil (TP 2013)= 196% (10 yrs)
4) Permai (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 380K (DP 2008) - 900K (TP 2011) = 137% (5 yrs)
5) Meranti Jaya (Puchong) (2 1/2 link) - 398K (DP 2006) - 900K (TP 2013)= 126% (7 yrs)
6) Lake Edge (Puchong) (Superlink) - 400K (DP 2004) - 900K (TP 2012)= 125% (9 yrs)
7) Putra Heights 1st Phase (Link) - 180K (DP 2003) - 400K (TP 2011)= 122% (8 yrs)
8) Meadows Lakefield (Link) - 350K (DP 2005) - 750K (TP 2010) = 114% (6 yrs)
9) Sentosa (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 462K (DP 2009) - 950K (TP 2013)= 105% (4 yrs)
10) Desiran (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 492K (DP 2009) - 990K (TP 2013)= 101% (4 yrs)
11) Alam Impian (Shah Alam) (SD) - 750k (DP 2009) - 1.4 mil (TP 2012) = 86% (3 yrs)
12) Sapphire (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 530K (DP 2009) - 980K (TP 2013)= 85% (4 yrs)
13) Tmn Esplanad (Zero-lot SD) - 1.63 mil (DP 2008) - 3.0 mil (TP 2013)= 84% (5 yrs)
14) Temasya Glemarie (Superlink) - 750K (DP 2009) - 1.36 mil (TP 2011) = 81% (2 yrs)
16) Seri Jalil (Bkt Jalil) (2.5 Stry Superlink) - 956K (DP 2010) - 1.6 mil (TP 2014)= 67% (4 yrs)
15) Bkt Manda'rina (Cheras) (Link) - 505K (DP 2005) - 750K (TP 2011)= 48% (6 yrs)

Bukit Jalil gonna to boom after Malton launch their project. Mostly landed price gone up more compare to high rise.

Boss, can I repost this on ptlm?

Why not?

Be careful especially when all the relatives and friends talk about property investment around you! So far no people talking about gold investment lately!

Hi Sifu, can further elaborate on the underlined point? 

Highest gain residential project as at 2014 : ( pls help to update )

DP = developer's price TP= Transacted price

Condo / Service Apartment / Soho / Studio

1) Changkat View (Dutamas) (condo) - 180K (DP 2005) - 475K (TP 2013) = 163% (8 yrs)
2) Axis Atrium (Soho) - 100K (DP 2006) - 260K (TP 2009)= 160% (5 yrs)
3) The Tamarind (Sentul) (condo) - 180K (DP 2003) - 450K (TP 2010)= 150% (8 yrs)
4) Royal Domain (Jln kuching) (condo) -180k (DP 2004) - 450K (TP 2012) = 150% (8 yrs)
5) Ken Damansara 3 (PJ) (condo) - 200k (DP,2005) - 480k (TP, 2012) = 140% (6 yrs)
6) Suriamas (Sunway) - Rm180k (DP2006) - 430k (TP 2012) = 138% ( 6 yrs)
7) Savanna (Bkt Jalil) (condo) - 240K (DP 2005) - 550K (TP 2011)= 129% (6 yrs)
8) The Zest (Ser Apt) (Kinrara) - 225K (DP 2009) - 510K (TP 2012) - 127% (3 yrs)
9) Seri Maya (Setiawangsa) (condo) - 220k (DP 2005) - 500k (TP 2011) = 127% (6 yrs)
10) The Tropics (PJ) (S Apt) - 190K (DP 2006) - 430K (TP 2011)= 126% (5 yrs)
11) Kuchai Avenue (Kuchai lama) (Serv apt) - 180K (DP 2007) - 400K (TP 2012)= 122% (5 yrs)
12) Pelangi Utama (Damansara) (condo) - 190k (DP 2001) - 420K (TP 2012) =121% (11 yrs)
13) Sierra Residensi Kinrara (condo) - 110K (DP 2006) - 240K (TP 2011)= 118% (4 yrs)
14) Casa Mutiara (KL) (S Apt) - 130K (DP 2004) - 280K (TP 2007)= 116% (7 yrs)
15) Casa Suites (PJ SS2) (condo) - 190K (DP 2005) - 400K (TP 2011)=110% (6 yrs)
16) Impian Meridian (Serv Apmt ) - 220k ( DP 2006) - 460k ( TP 2012 ) = 109% ( 6 yrs)
17) Sterling (PJ) (condo) - 270k (DP, 2005) - 550k(TP, 2012) = 104% (7 years)
18) Arena Green (Bkt Jalil) (Apt) - 134K (DP 2003) - 270K (TP 2010) = 101% (8 yrs)
19) Villa Makmur (Dutamas) (condo) - 200k (DP 2005) - 400K (TP 2012) = 100% (7 yrs)
20) MayTower (Ser Apt) (KL) - 170K (DP 2004) - 330K (TP 2011) = 94% (7 yrs)
21) Titiwangsa Sentral (KL) (condo) - 250k (DP 2008) - 470k (TP 2012) = 88% (4 years)
22) Midfield (Sungai besi) (condo) - 240k (DP 2008) - 430K (TP 2012) = 79% (4 yrs)
23) Anggun Puri (Dutamas) (condo) - 200k (DP 2010) - 350k (TP 2012) = 75% (2 yrs)
24) Solace - Setia Walk (Puchong) (Service Apt) - 288K (DP 2009) - 500K (TP 2012) = 73% (3 yrs)
25) PV10 (Setapak) (condo) - 220K (DP 2005) - 380K (TP 2012) = 72% (7 yrs)
26) Park 51, PJ (condo) - 270k (DP 2008) - 450k (TP 2012) = 67% (4 yrs)
27) Alam Puri (Jalan Ipoh) (condo) - 270k (DP 2007) - 430K (TP 2012) = 59% (5 yrs)
Landed

1) Tmn Esplanad (Bkt Jalil) (superlink) - 438K (DP 2002) - 1.55 mil (TP 2014) = 253% (12 yrs)
2) Adiva (Desa Parkcity) (link) - 460K (DP 2003) - 1.40 mil (TP 2010) = 204% (7 yrs)
3) Jalil Sutera (Bkt Jalil) (Superlink) - 540K (DP 2003) - 1.60 mil (TP 2013)= 196% (10 yrs)
4) Permai (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 380K (DP 2008) - 900K (TP 2011) = 137% (5 yrs)
5) Meranti Jaya (Puchong) (2 1/2 link) - 398K (DP 2006) - 900K (TP 2013)= 126% (7 yrs)
6) Lake Edge (Puchong) (Superlink) - 400K (DP 2004) - 900K (TP 2012)= 125% (9 yrs)
7) Putra Heights 1st Phase (Link) - 180K (DP 2003) - 400K (TP 2011)= 122% (8 yrs)
8) Meadows Lakefield (Link) - 350K (DP 2005) - 750K (TP 2010) = 114% (6 yrs)
9) Sentosa (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 462K (DP 2009) - 950K (TP 2013)= 105% (4 yrs)
10) Desiran (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 492K (DP 2009) - 990K (TP 2013)= 101% (4 yrs)
11) Alam Impian (Shah Alam) (SD) - 750k (DP 2009) - 1.4 mil (TP 2012) = 86% (3 yrs)
12) Sapphire (Bdr Kinrara) (Link) - 530K (DP 2009) - 980K (TP 2013)= 85% (4 yrs)
13) Tmn Esplanad (Zero-lot SD) - 1.63 mil (DP 2008) - 3.0 mil (TP 2013)= 84% (5 yrs)
14) Temasya Glemarie (Superlink) - 750K (DP 2009) - 1.36 mil (TP 2011) = 81% (2 yrs)
16) Seri Jalil (Bkt Jalil) (2.5 Stry Superlink) - 956K (DP 2010) - 1.6 mil (TP 2014)= 67% (4 yrs)
15) Bkt Manda'rina (Cheras) (Link) - 505K (DP 2005) - 750K (TP 2011)= 48% (6 yrs)

1000sf condo, Developer's price RM700,000 (700/sf)
After 3 years, if you dispose it off for RM840,000 (800/sf)
Do you make profit?

Gross profit 140,000
1. RPGT - 30% = 36,000
2. Agents fees - 2%/3% = 18,000 / 27,000
3. Under construction interest (30 mths appro) = 21,000
4. MOT = foc? = 21K
5. Loan stamping = 3,150
6. Legal fees - 1,500 - 5,000 (represented)
7. Bank penalty? = 19K

Not much left even property appreciates 20%

Boss, questions...
Since I am virgin at selling property.
RPGT is plainly selling price deduct purchase price? Any other items we can claim?

I usually use rule of thumb of 30% to break even upon vp.
Anything lower, it is just the bank and other people pocketing the profit.

Buy & sell legal fees
Renovation cost
Agent's fees

How bout worst return on investmet projects? msuites asking prices in the classifieds dropped from Rm680k minium to Rm608k, below some selling prices!