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gregy
post Aug 4 2011, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Aug 4 2011, 12:31 PM)
is hard to buy...but once bought...u might earn big buck in the future...>.< as long as bubble don't burst
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It's like buying shares. You never know when the bubble is going to burst. But to buy now after having risen phenomenally in the past few years? Major major risk!
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post Aug 5 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(garagesell @ Aug 5 2011, 11:40 AM)
all the price jack up by f***ing agent.. u guys agreed? they simply simply jack the price without f***ing knowledge.  if base on bank.. how f***ing real market price. my housing area here... terrace house can go for 1.5mil nia ma.. ghost only will buy. 3 years no one interested. HAHA. all agent problem. tell owner can can.. can sell.. sell my cock!
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post Aug 11 2011, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 11 2011, 12:23 AM)
We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful.
Warren Buffett

The above famous quote sounds very easy to understand, but in reality, how many of us can practice it? less than 0.001% I think..

Guess who is the real player when mkt crash?? (KLSE drop to 300 mark), the answer : Speculators (Investor)  wink.gif
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I think it's not fair to lump genuine investors with speculators. Investors actually pay for the stocks while speculators hope to make a quick buck without actually taking any money out. If a share is below its target value/in an oversold position due to bearish sentiments, genuine investors with holding power will pickup bargain stocks to hold for months/yrs and collect dividend payments in the meantime. I believe that's what Warren Buffet was talking about.

Speculators OTOH merely enter the market based on hearsay and "inside rumors". Those closest to the source will make some money but in the end, speculators are the ones who are most badly burnt most of the time. These are the blokes who chase stocks when share prices are on the up and up, pushing prices to astronomical levels with no fundamentals to back it up. Much like playing musical chairs, someone will end up paying the ultimate price.

If you have cash to put aside, buying any blue chip stocks when the CI is at 300 you can't possibly go wrong smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 11 2011, 02:08 AM)
again talk easy, action susah lor...
I remembered when KLSE CI dropped < 300 mark (1998), the mkt sentiment wasn't that healthy as wat we can imagine now....
People were talking bout like end of world already, would central bank koyak or not, would RM become fake note? shd migrat or not? Maybank / Public Bank would "close shop" or not..bla bla bla, Now look back those statements sounds a bit silly, but it really reflex how the overall mkt fear & feel insecure wat happening.

Try to imagine, wat will make CI drops back to 300 mark?
I can think of War, Riot 513, Mega Earthquake etc.. only, by that time, you won't be so calm  wink.gif
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If the CI falls back to 300, you got money, you buy. What's the downside? Problem is, many ppl will be out of money, that's why cannot buy. But ppl who are cash rich (like Warren Buffet) will buy.

Let's put it this way, if it's the end of the world, would it matter where you park your money? How much gold can you carry as you're making your way to another country?

Ok let's say there's impending war. How much will props be worth, esp after being shelled by the enemy?

At the end of the day, if the world is coming to an end every investment will be worth nothing and it won't matter anyway. If the world doesn't end and the stock market recovers, who will make the most?
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post Aug 12 2011, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(2wong @ Aug 11 2011, 04:51 PM)
sure some might have  repeat adver there on ipoperty....but just show you the the fact is take up rate is gone now,if the market still in demanding that would not create the back lush to adver many time in single adver
when this swiss garden service apartment first lounch from the developer....they say all sold out and other site of developer on KLCC lounch first day they say all sold out or take up rate up to 80%.....but as soon as the building VP it all put in the market again within less than a year.....what sort the logic it is?
that mean propety market in malaysia it isnot have the demand....it people create the supplie people create bubble.....

the fact is the fact.....you cannot ignore it or hide you head under the pillow  pretend is not there....

also i wonder how worry these fliper is after adver so many time not one buy it....they must be cannot sleep and eat now after this recently the share market tumoir and US might enter double dip and EU conutry still not sort it out they own deft.....
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My boss who's got a prop business tells me that most of the time, those "nearly sold out" print ads all BS wan. They reserve many units for flipping. Hope to get the hype going, then when demand goes up, they slowly let go their own units at a good margin above base price. That's how the game has been played all along. Dunno how true but sounds plausible innit?
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post Aug 16 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Aug 16 2011, 09:21 AM)
Haha. don't tell me you own 20 properties and fully paid off  drool.gif

I'm not an expert in this, but as far as I know, hyperinflation does benefit debtor and harm creditor (as the country prints money to pay off its debt)

I'm not saying hyperinflation will occur, but have to be cautious, the western world is headed to this path...
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Yea, how true. Ever seen a 100 billion Zimbabwean dollar bill? LOL... Can only buy three chicken eggs.


Added on August 16, 2011, 4:55 pm
QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 16 2011, 02:08 PM)
Sick with those experts (stock mkt / property mkt) report

In the past, experts / guru keep forecasting the mkt trend (bull or bear), > 70% of those predictions were wrong.
Every time prediction wrong, they silent
if 1 out of 100 times correct, they claim themselves as "EXPERT"

Many of those statements are not clear, talk easy, cheap! let me quote a few..(talk like no talk  doh.gif )

"I think the mkt is over supply, buyers need to be cautious" - ini budak sekolah pun tahu!
My question : how much % over supply? which sector? which area? since when? how long it will take to recover back to normal? etc
US sub-prime crisis, it will affect the local market in long term
My question : how long is the term? How it affect? Local mkt refers to overall throughout the country or KV only?
LTV 70% imposed by BNM, sure will affect the property mkt especially speculators who buy for short term gain...
My question : How much it affect the bank's business (%)? which sectors? how much it affect developer's new project sales? etc 

Sometimes it is wasting time reading those comments, too general!! IMO Expert/guru shd be able to give a firm & specific answer (I know it is not easy), if prediction correct, I salute and thumbs up  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif cheers.gif 
if wrong, must APOLOGIZE!! (ya is impossible he he...) LPPL lah  doh.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(myone1015 @ Aug 18 2011, 11:04 AM)
how can you compare condo with apartment?
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I hope you're joking, right? Potato, potah-toe, tomay-toe, tomato....
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:23 AM)

If the reserved price = market value, good what, since lot of forumers here keep complaint about sky high asking price of properties in the free market now.  biggrin.gif


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I don't understand this statement, never been to an auction lol...

But from a layman's perspective, if the reserve price is equal to market price (which at the moment ppl complain is sky high), how is this good? If I understand correctly, reserve price means minimum price, right?
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM)
a typical syiok sendiri syndrome.. that makes me wonder is the price of advertisement too cheap?
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LYN, Mudah.my etc are FOC. How much cheaper can it get?
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post Sep 21 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Sep 21 2011, 11:36 AM)
Its just a reminder to the rakyat that if s**t hits the fan, we can balik kampung and tanam jagung  biggrin.gif
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This.
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post Oct 6 2011, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Oct 6 2011, 05:16 PM)
Ya, gold better, why not SUPERCONDUCTOR then? Better than gold tongue.gif

Oh, per MT gold ~usd53 mil. Copper LME ~usd7100.

Feel free to use gold to replace copper then.  laugh.gif
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I think at most they do goldplating so not that costly kua. Can u imagine, ppl also eat gold?

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