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 Are property prices going to up further? V3

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elawrenceong
post Sep 4 2011, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Sep 4 2011, 09:00 PM)
dun feel shock after GE over... hehe..

actually the bargain is started for prop now in the open market.... thing just getting worse to worse... from now till the next few years.
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Cheras height in Cheras just going to raise another 10% I heard starting from tomorrow...The property market is slowing but still a lot of project is on going...Price seems to be stabilize vv soon.....but bubble may be not yet ...
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post Sep 19 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 19 2011, 12:34 AM)
seriously, i don't property price dropping especially the 2 places which i am looking for. Bandar Bukit Raja & Setia Alam. I'm looking for a landed freehold property but still there is not even a slightest sign of prices dropping instead... less ppl are selling.
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I've one newly completed unit for sale.....PM me if interested..! I'm the owner...going to take the key by end of Sept! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 28 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 27 2011, 11:16 PM)
One real example is my friend who is applying for this first house, an apartment and he got rejected by some banks already. He is a professional and earn decent monthly income and has been working for many years. Maybe the reason is that project not 'good'. But, I think could be due to the market sentiment also.
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I think now market sentiment not so good due to the weak market globally...but bear in mind..at current bear market, the house price is only almost stagnant or move up slower....however, once the market goes well....the house pricing will keep moving up and up.... wink.gif
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post Oct 8 2011, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(super911 @ Oct 8 2011, 12:33 AM)
LTV 70% has effectively slow down the goreng activity. Ask the bankers and you will know. Last time people buy puluh puluh rumah in one go. You don't see this anymore because the ROI doesn't worth doing so. Furthermore economy is softening. If rpgt increase some more, property market will tumble.
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Agreed..!
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post Oct 12 2011, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 11 2011, 11:04 PM)
there is no more gold reserve. used long time ago, discarded. that's why every gomen incl usa can keep issuing new money, to keep spending - at the expense of declining currency value relative to the other currencies and inflation.

gomen has little cash to spend on those mega projects. they are mostly funded by borrowings, i.e. bonds - can be sukuks sold to investors in dubai or others bonds in new york or shanghai, and bonds sold to epf.

gomen spending is not very different from individual - if you keep borrowing and spending without a good return, one day you go broke and no one wants to lend you anymore. Just hope for someone or some banks to bail you out for a price with conditions. greece is going thru that now.
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My dear ...anyway my gov has revenue/income besides borrowings...they get income through taxes, input from Petronas, etc.. Anyhow, the budget 2012 is a 'budget'..When soon they find out less income/less input from Petronas, they've to revise their plan or on hold some of the mega projects...So far, our country deficit is 4.7% as reported. Compared with GREECE...It's still far away ?

So, no point for you to feel scary at this point... nod.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 12 2011, 01:35 PM)
there are lots of articles by local and foreign media, debates incl parliament on the health of the economy, growing budget deficits, gomen and household debt levels, so no need to dwell further here.

clearly, you have bought into putrajaya's rosy story, but not me. tongue.gif
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Haha...I think i'm not interested in Putrajaya's story here....the story behind is worldwide economy now is bad....How to keep growth at 5%?
Domestic demand ! How to boost domestic demand ? By 'boosting' that we've mega projects in order to boost the consumer and share market sentiment, including property!! hmm.gif

Like someone said Idea is an idea and concept....budget shall be adjusted according to actual situation. You don't know economics and project management ?

It's not important you did't know. However, one should not expect our gov leaders to said we'll be falling into recession and so on.
When the whole market collapse, not because of property price too high/bubble, it's because of market confidence/sentiment. nod.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Oct 12 2011, 02:20 PM)
domestic demand to sustain growth... oh no...  G oleadi admit recession is coming soon.
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biggrin.gif Long time heard recession is coming 'soon'......Actual recession is justified by economic data/figures...
Hm...I think the situation is going to be Economic Slow Down instead of recession...

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