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cherroy
post Nov 14 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 14 2011, 01:02 AM)
what go up must come down.

Because we have people like this , malaysian 20's 30's need to work extra hard to buy rubbish.
And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
After election. Hope govt imposing 40% on property gain tax baru kena kau kau.
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This word doesn't suit to property especially prime location properties.

Last time, a terrace house only 30k, go up to 50k, thene 100k, then 200k, then 350k, then 500k, now 700k.
Wait 30 years also not going down. whistling.gif


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post Nov 14 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Nov 14 2011, 08:49 AM)
our basic salary for fresh graduate in 20 yrs (1990) ago is about 2k... after 20 years (2010) is about 2.5k... with only 25% increase over 20 years time... this is mainly due to education become too easy to obtain.... percentage of gradaute is increase more then 1000% times... sign of over supply... many job can be done by diploma holder, but replace with degree holder... in fact, the degree holder is receive the salary of diploma holder... it will be hard to increase the salary with over supply of fresh gradute in general.

back to property.... demand over supply still in play.... easy loan.... so, expected after ge, interest will increase... the earning from prop actually pay to interest.... to keep property up up... cash still the king...

today breakfast cost: rm3.7... sign of deflation. hehe....
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I don't know why people keep on using fresh graduate wages as comparison.
A fresh graduate 10 years ago earned 2k, but he/she can improves and climb up the ladder, more skilled, experience, now can earn 5k, or 10k or even more.
So the person now can afford to buy a 500k properties already, so you have more 1 buyer coming out.
Prime location properties still remain the same supply, while you potentially have more demand due to more people can earn 10k, as well as rich become richer.
So that's why landed properties at prime location that has limited land space supply, always creep to the upside.
Only ocassionally economy recession, or previously properties market surge too much that can result in properties price plunge.

Fresh graduate wages just starting point only.

Last time, only top students manage to squeeze into Universities and get a degree, nowadays, as long as not poor enough and enough money, almost can get a degree already.
So for sure, supply become more, but quality wise is different story.


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post Nov 14 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 14 2011, 01:24 AM)
KLCC areas is prime areas right. I read it is going down and no sign going up.

Also dubai - see what happen? no sign of going up (or stop going down)...

& now dubai spare to abu dahbi

Imaging what if UAS go into Syria & Iran  or ..... Isreal go into Iran.

what go up must come down.
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It is correcting due to previous surge too much, but to expect prime area like KLCC to drop back to 10-15 years ago price, is it possible?

Those area that has vast space to expand one, is not considered prime location properties.
But KL has vast space of vacant land or KLCC has vast space of unused land surrounding?

ok, I wait another 30 years, see the terrace house in KL will drop down to 30k level or not.... laugh.gif
waiting.... waiting and waiting, for the word "what go up must go down". rclxms.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 15 2011, 01:30 PM)
My sister daughter rented one unit here paying  2.3 K ( but partial furnished la)

2.3K x 12 months / (180 k- discount 15%) = 18% rental yield. after minus maintenace , MPSJ still getting 15% la.

I don't think my sister daughter and her b/f ( both graduated 2 years ago from upm) able to buy this condo without working & saving so extra  hard.

I hear these same guy buying last 2009 launch condo in bukit jalil.  So making more la since bukit jalil is so hot now.

I knew these because one of my course-mate doing  their audit. (  4 out of 7) and one rich guy is very active on my condo JMC.

So, how to control? maybe regulation need to come in. to limit so call the "bulk purchases" if let said after lauching for a while no take up. allowing these "bulk purchase".

So good luck to the youngster who have read this.

Just my opinion only. Hope some healthy feedback so that I can learn some from you. after all, u live & u learn.
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I only know in Penang, fully furnished on a 600-700k condo, can only rent about Rm3k+.

Rm2.3K rental for a 180K condo? Wah, big lucrative deal.


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post Nov 17 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 17 2011, 12:27 AM)
Educate the governance to clear off their debt first la. RM500b. What you owe the bank is just that small little puny money compared to how our government mismanage our funds. They did the wrong thing from the very beginning, what's the point of limiting middle class and lower class earner CREDIT capability? you think your credit and my credit capability combine actually play that much impact to the property market?

They target the wrong group of ppl from the very beginning. The group of ppl which they should target are those who are buying homes like vegetables. Setup a rule, each person can only have 2 HOME! that would stop the buying. If they do not do the right thing and continue practising the wrong thing. it's sad to say we will never move. 20% DP for 3rd home? Ppl are buying home without going through banks.
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The credit card stricter rules has nothing to do with property sector.
It intends to limit the damage that potential done on banking system as well as the bankruptcy rate is increasing at alarming rate.

Yes, for property sector, they need to limit the speculation activities, but the CC issue has nothing to do with this.

The 70% LV on third property has not been effective to curb down or cool down the speculation, but I personally do not agree on limit each person can have only 2 properties, this is overly.
Instead should set high booking fee needed, like at least 20-30%.
Some developers that introduce interest free scheme, 5/95 etc, is actually fuel the speculation. This has to be curbed.
The bottom line is every purchase needs to pay at least 20-30% initial booking fee, this is more effective to curb down speculation.

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