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TSabyssal
post Jun 25 2011, 03:46 PM, updated 15y ago

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The country's electricity reserve margin of 45% is too high and consumers are forced to pay to maintain this reserve, says DAP's Tony Pua.
PETALING JAYA: Looking after the “fat cats” at the expense of the average man seems to be the reason the Energy, Green Technology and Water Minister, Peter Chin, is defending the Independent Power Producers (IPP).

DAP national publicity secretary Tony Pua said this perception stems from the fact that minister is bent on defending the electricity reserve margin and saying that IPPs do not benefit from fuel subsidies.

Pua in a statement today fired at Chin for defending the country’s “outrageous” electricity reserve margins and for reiterating the “tired excuse” that the IPPs do not benefit from the fuel subsidies.

Electricity reserve margin is the amount by which the utility’s total electric power capacity exceeds the maximum electric demand.

Critics have claimed that the high reserve margin is the result of a loop-sided Power Purchase Agreement which requires TNB to purchase all power generated by the IPPs

Yesterday, at a press conference, Chin said that the country’s electricity reserve margin of 45% is for a “bigger cushion” to prevent any sudden rise in electricity demand.

He indicated that the government would not take the risk of not having enough power, as a period of three years is required from planning to production of a new power plant.

“The government’s decision is to make sure that whatever may happen, our electricity will always be there. We have ample reserve in order to cushion whatever risk the industry may face,” he said.

But Pua, the Petaling Jaya Utara MP, today took Chin to task over the reserves, citing neighbouring and advanced economies that have far lower electricity reserves which he claimed were sufficient.

“Electricity reserve margin for Thailand and Java, Indonesia is only 25.4% and 26% respectively. Is the minister claiming that both these countries which have been attracting greater foreign direct investments than Malaysia consistently over the past five years do not have sufficient margins?” he asked.

“Even the US and Canada, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation’s (NERC) study indicated a reserve margin of 28.6% despite both countries being more advanced and developed,” he added.

Pua challenged Chin to “enlighten Malaysians as to what makes Malaysia so special that Malaysians are forced to pay for electricity reserve margins which have been consistently close to 50 % over the past decade”.

Yesterday, at the same press conference, TNB chief operating officer Azman Mohd said that electricity reserve margins between countries cannot be compared as the electricity demand and planning criteria differ.

Pua dismissed the explanation, saying that the officer had merely said no comparison could be made but did not provide proper reasons.

“What difference does (his explanation) make? Thailand and Indonesia are developing countries which are supposed to be less developed than us. Why is it that they can (have lower electricity margin) and we can’t?” he asked.

Pua also took issue with Chin’s “tired excuse” used by the IPPs that they do not benefit from fuel subsidies as opposed to the end-consumers who do.

He said that the minister and the IPPs are on firm technical and legal ground. However, he argued that the subsidies have allowed the IPPs “to mask” the high electricity prices that they sell, particularly to TNB.

He again cited Thailand where he said that although the fuel subsidies are less, the electricity tariff is almost similar, if not cheaper, than in Malaysia.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/2011/06/2...reserve-margin/
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post Jun 25 2011, 03:57 PM

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Got your power bills for the transitional period for the new tariffs? Why they sutmmed up the power usage for 2 months, calculated on new tariffs and deducted the last amount paid? Should'nt it deduction of power used and calculate the balance with the new new tariff?
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post Jun 25 2011, 04:13 PM

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WHEN the Government decided to approve the request from Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) to raise electricity tariffs, the plight of the national utility took centre-stage. Naturally, the knee-jerk reaction among consumers was not favourable. The 12% rise in tariffs appears to have re-ignited the debate on how good the going is for independent power producers (IPPs) at the cost of the national utility’s cashflow. The imbalance between the generation side of the business and that of transmission and distribution has put a strain on TNB. To understand the privatisation of the power generation sector, one needs to take a look back in history to understand that the country's IPPs came about as a result of the Government's effort to address the issue of stable power supply after the landmark 1992 blackout. Lending a historical perspective to the issue of IPPs is former TNB executive chairman Tan Sri Ani Arope, who headed the national utility from 1990 to 1996. It was during his tenure that the first generation IPPs were created. StarBiz deputy news editor JAGDEV SINGH SIDHU has the story.

STARBIZ: What happened after the first major blackout in 1992?

Ani: TNB had plans in place to pump out more energy by building plants in Pasir Gudang and Paka. Financing was no problem and our credit standing was very high. We had the land acquired and were ready to move in and plant up.

But we were told by the Economic Planning Unit (EPU) that it had its own plans. We cautioned EPU that if those plants, which would take two years to complete, were not built, Malaysia would get another major blackout. When you have a place with 250 engineers, it does not make sense to say (the blackout) is because of poor planning. But the EPU said it had its own plans and we were told to surrender the land.

Then it surfaced that it wanted to privatise the power plants. I am not anti-IPPs per se. It is good to have other players but it has to be done fairly. It has to be fair to the consumers, not just TNB, which is a conduit. TNB, because of the electricity hike, has been treated as the whipping boy. The focus should be on the consumers.

When the generous terms were given to the IPPs, all my other peers around the world asked what was happening. They said they would like to have a share in the IPPs. They said (the contracts to IPPs) were “too darn generous.'' (The terms) were grossly one sided.

How was the Malaysian model of IPPs created?

Ask our previous Prime Minister.

How was the process of negotiations with IPPs conducted?

There was no negotiation. Absolutely none. Instead of talking directly with the IPPs, TNB was sitting down with the EPU. And we were harassed, humiliated and talked down every time we went there. After that, my team was disappointed. The EPU just gave us the terms and asked us to agree. I said no way I would.

What about the pricing and terms of the contracts?

It was all fixed up. (They said) this is the price, this is the capacity charge and this is the number of years. They said you just take it and I refused to sign the contracts. And then, I was put out to pasture.

Why did you disagree with the terms?

It was grossly unfair. At 16 sen per unit (kWh) and with the take or pay situation, actually it was 23 sen per unit. With 23 sen, plus transmission and distribution costs, TNB would have had to charge the consumer no less than 30 sen per unit. If mixed with TNB’s cost, the cost would come down but that was at our expense because we were producing electricity at 8 sen a unit. We can deliver electricity at 17 sen per unit.

And then there is a capacity charge. Nobody produces excess electricity like Malaysia and it goes to waste because there are no batteries to store that power. TNB only needs a reserve of 15% to 20%.

TNB was producing electricity at 8 sen a unit. What should have been the right price for IPPs to sell to TNB?

Twelve sen. They could not beat our price as we had already amortised our assets. But for the new guys or even ourselves to come in then and (having) to meet interest charges and to make a small profit, it would cost 12 sen a unit.

This was what we told one IPP. The IPP agreed to it but the EPU said that unless the IPP raised its price, the contract would not be given to the IPP. So he got it for 14 sen per unit.

And then, there is the cost pass-through. If the price of fuel went up, the extra cost is passed through to us. And in other words, it is passed on to the consumer.

Under what terms would you have agreed to the IPPs being set up?

Have an independent buyer for the electricity and in one way, let TNB come in and bid for the plants. Get other people to come in. Get a commission to see (to) our needs and TNB can be one of the producers.

It is argued that the IPPs' contracts are too lucrative but there are IPPs in other countries in Africa or Asia that have better terms.

There are IPPs charging 50 to 60 US cents per unit but they use diesel. Take our own situation and compare oranges with oranges. Then it is fair. Do whatever is fair.

How were you affected by the process of awarding the IPP contracts?

I felt sick. It was morally wrong and not fair. If it is legal and not fair, I will not do it. If it is fair and illegal, I still won’t do it. It has to be legal and fair.

We work for the consumers, workers and shareholders. TNB is morally obligated to these three, but the consumers come first, otherwise we won’t be around. It is then the workers and the shareholders.


When I said that, they said ‘Dia ingat bapak dia-punya’ (He thinks this is his father’s company). This job is an amanah (trust). You are entrusted with this responsibility and you carry it out to the best of your ability. I do not want somebody to come and urinate on my grave. In the Malay culture, that is about the worst insult they can do to a man.

Do you think you did the right thing by not signing the agreements?

Absolutely.

How should a contract with the IPPs work?

In Australia, they call the IPPs and ask “what is your price''. They will pay the IPP that offers the best price. What they could have done is to throw the net wider and ask everybody (if they) are good, it would be awarded to them. But in our case, the contracts were ready-made and we were asked to sign.

What is your view on the impending renegotiation with the IPPs?

It has to be legal and fair. If we were to negotiate unfairly and illegally, the whole world will be looking at us and they will say “don’t sign anything with Malaysia because if things go against the country, the Government will void the agreement”.

We have to look at this very carefully.

But what we can do now is to say, can we bring down the capacity charge. Anything above the 15% reserve margin, we will call for bids.

The second thing is that the IPPs would have by now paid up their whole capital investments in their plants and it is all gravy (or profit) from now. Could we not bring this down a bit? Instead of paying a small amount to (a special fund), why not increase the (payment) for future planting up? In that manner, we can control the price of electricity. Otherwise, it's going to escalate.

Who in your opinion should get involved in the negotiations?

The consumers should be there. For me, you should get a very independent body. Then, you can bring in TNB, the IPPs, the consumers and Energy Commission. But these bodies and consumers should not make a judgment.
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GEORGE TOWN: The Consumers Asso­ciation of Penang (CAP) has urged the Government to end the outsourcing of power generation to independent power producers (IPPs).

Its president S. M. Mohd Idris said the move was a drain on the resources of Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) and a burden to consumers.

“We believe that TNB has the capacity to produce energy more efficiently and at a lower cost. Moreover, profits coming to TNB will benefit the people and the nation rather than private companies.

“If these companies face financial problems, the Government would be forced to bail them out with public funds to ensure continuous availability of energy,” he told reporters yesterday.

He said the authorities must put pressure on IPPs to revise the terms of power purchase agreements to reduce TNB’s payout to them.

Mohd Idris said a large portion of TNB’s revenue had gone to the IPPs.

“It (the payout) increased from RM9.2bil or 54% of TNB’s revenues in 2005 to a projected RM19bil or 65% in 2010.

“From 2001 to 2010, TNB’s payment to IPPs totalled RM78.3bil,” he said


mind you this is business. you don't sign one sided contracts. mind you tnb has obligations to the consumer. mind you TNB has the financial capabilities and expertise to build their own power plant.

Mind you TNB is purchasing power at ridiculous price. Increase in cost due to fluctuations in fuel prices will be passed to TNB. TNB is forced to purchase all energy produced by IPPs although the country have high power reserved. All the IPPs have recovered their capital investment and is now making BILLIONS of Ringgit a year. Is that fair?

RM78.3 billion can build how many power plant and produce cheaper energy?

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post Jun 25 2011, 04:17 PM

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dat why Khairy still happy till now

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