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 Wiring guide : 3 color wire (green, blue,black), Which one neutral, live and earth

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stormer.lyn
post Jun 22 2020, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 22 2020, 03:51 PM)
Thanks. I have confirmed with test pen. The one I circled from incoming (Blue line) is actually LIVE WIRE. Crap man how these licensed electrician does the 3 phase wiring. So dangerous.
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The wiring is correct as done by the electrician in your picture. You are wrong in your assumption that the electrician has done a dangerous job. I'm not trying to be condescending here, but please understand the wiring standards before you do wiring. Please be safe.
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post Jun 22 2020, 07:38 PM

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You're looking at the colour code for flexible wire. Sorry, looking again at the image you attached, the wiring standard in Malaysia is still the first one on the left, for wiring within the wall. Where did you get the image from, that shows brown as the live?

The only difference is that the Earth/Ground cable is solid green, not green striped yellow in M'sia.

QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 22 2020, 07:29 PM)
Okay. So the color code changed?
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As ceo684 has posted before, the colour code within the wall is different from the colour code for flexible wire.
QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 22 2020, 02:48 PM)
In the wall, stiff wire, usually it is
Live - Red Yellow Blue sometimes white, depending on phase
Neutral - Black (common neutral)
Earth - Green

Outside of wall - to fitting/flexible cable, usually it is
Live - Red/Brown
Neutral - Blue
Earth - Yellow/Green stripes or Green
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post Jun 28 2020, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(usernameINVALID @ Jun 28 2020, 05:31 PM)
user posted image

Is this correct?
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The wires in this image are attached correctly
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post Nov 13 2020, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(multinik @ Nov 13 2020, 12:25 AM)
quick question... why does the neutral and earth has many joint wire together?. is it shared neutral?
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Yes
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post Dec 10 2020, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(williamchiew @ Dec 10 2020, 05:59 PM)
Hi all,

I have a noob questions to ask for help. I'm trying to figure out whether I can loop a power point for use like laptop or charge phone from existing light switch.

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What you want to do (for all intents and purposes) is not possible
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post Feb 2 2022, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(louyeh @ Feb 2 2022, 05:27 AM)
Earth = 0 volts, dead zero, the more zeroes the better.
Measured with respect to (wrt) what? After all, you can't connect only one probe of the multimeter and measure a voltage.

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Neutral = Will have very low VAC reading, it is never 0 volts AC, 0.5VAC isnt zero volts. It can be high reading like 5 or 10 VAC which isn't good since it adds up to the AC phase.
Again, measured wrt to what? If you say measured wrt to Earth, the N and E wires are independent to each other (for M'sia standard wiring) so any stray voltages on the wires do not complete a circuit. Does it matter what small voltage it is at all, as long as the L-N voltage is 230Vac?

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Henceforth test pen is a quick and useless tool to tell apart Earth & Neutral. That is the only reason why some see no difference in wiring until the mains is switched on. The test pen will never light up on a Neutral since its so low voltage.
I don't understand the point of the sentence.
"quick and useful"
"slow but useful"
"useless", and it doesn't matter if it is quick or slow as it is useless. E.g a hammer is a useless tool to measure voltage. Once useless, then quick or slow doesn't play a part anymore.

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Also be mindful that the test pen will light up with relatively low voltage, ie 50VAC.

Do be cautious if you are not trained & experience in measuring live voltage.
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If the testpen lights, then isn't this "safe"? After all, you won't touch a wire if the testpen lights. The problem is that the testpen doesn't light even if there is a voltage present. A false positive makes you more cautious, and hence safer, no?

 

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