only to minimize the risk ... but noting can give u '0' risk...

the autogate is easily pushed by the robber.

any idea whr is this place? seem familiar but cant recall

How come the gate can be easily opened by the robber???
Wow.. This lady have guts to fight back when they have a parang?

Can't believe!!!!

dats when u need chuck noris or 9mm

plz look kfully..under autogate doesnt has the lock ..

may be our auto gate installer can do some research on how to install those magnetic lock which can withstand 600 lbs, weather proof it sure good demand

This post has been edited by skng03: Jun 7 2011, 10:11 PM

i tot its n d market d?

Is it normal to have CCTV to be so HD?!

Plus seems like there is no lock (or autolock?) for the autogate.

this is .. slowpoke

Hurm...no offense to victim or anyone, this video seems like acting one.
1. The lady Put her handbag inside the bonet?
2. When she step out from the car, she seems like ready to be rob? After taking her handbag, she stop and didn't close the bonnet then the motor Arrive.
3. When the motor arrived, she stop and look at the camera twice? Or there is a reflection mirror/ someone inside the house?
4. She should had run back inside the car instead of running to nowhere? Maybe she panic.
5. Testing how good is the camera..even the lalat fly pass also can see...

i think this type of hydraulic arm gate does not lock, the gate is held closed only by the arm

1> Some people put notebook in the bonnet too, It maybe safer than putting on the passenger sit.
5> Now the camera quality are improving, the resolution can go all the way up to 720. With the bright light, it can take very sharp image.

no matter is act or not, but it prove the auto gate weak to against external force no matter how strong/good is the motor, i think even a skinny ppl can slot into house easily if pull the gate with tiny gap...

even the sliding auto gate also cant prevent such intrusion, intruder can simply lift up the auto gate and relocate it easily... i think best would be the auto gate come with lock mechanism to the ground or lock between the gate doors

Install EM lock on the gate

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Added on June 8, 2011, 2:13 pmSomething like this.
http://www.hooverfence.com/gtopro/R1200-gatelock.htm


This post has been edited by weikee: Jun 8 2011, 02:13 PM

wow, so easy to open autogate? i tested mine quite hard to open....

bugijun, maybe because you too afraid of making it spoil? or do your auto gate have additional lock on the floor?

This video is fake because:

1. The CCTV quality is too good, macam watching HD Video

2. There is no lock at the bottom of the gate ?

3. The shooting angle of the CCTV. Most if not all CCTV is mounted on top of the ceiling or any high end corner.
This you can clearly see its shooting at a straight angle ?

4. The acting seriously failed. The aunty hesitate so much to run / shout / call for help. The 2 rempit also can be seen
not clear of what they are doing, hesitate to go rob the aunty also.

5. The aunty suddenly become so hero use a handbag strap to whap 2 parang wielding robbers? Summore in the end
throw shoes.

6. This place if im not wrong is taken at THE PEAK, a guarded community. Dont think the 2 rempit can get in easily.

I noticed she installed autogate system without changing the original gate come together with the house.

Normally original gate is not strong.. she dare to fight back

This post has been edited by TubeNRibbon: Jun 8 2011, 05:00 PM

For your #1
- See lelong, http://www.lelong.com.my/36-leds-outdoor-1...7-01-Sale-I.htm
- http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/PANA...CP284-/WV-CP284 for Panasonic 540TVL
- http://www.panasonic.com/business/security...lor-cameras.asp

540 and 480 TVL camera are not expensive and is been in the market for sometime.

cool....
time to get auto open gate

1.Plenty of good CCTV nowadays... even the latest videocam also able can shoot in 3D model...

2. most of auto gate doesnt have lock...

3. most of good/high-end CCTV are wall mounted, so far never know that good CCTV with dome size...

4. there have a 2 door merz right in front of robber, for me also will hesitate to choose the bag or car...

5. i think quite common sense, i believe u will try to chase the robbers too...
the lady stepped back as she threated by robber when robber trying to chop her at the gate there...

6. guarded community doesnt means can eliminate robbery or break in case... unless the guards have recorded the visitor information before allowing them to the housing area then different story... i went to one of guarded housing area at Rawang, my father-in-law just wave his hand to the indian guard without blocking and registration at all...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 8 2011, 07:43 PM

Yeah bro, laptop or notebook understandable. But look at the auntie handbag, it seems like those contain purse, lotion, lipsticks, tissues, etc etc..
She put her handbag inside the bonnet. Assumed that her purse also inside the handbag. Pass tol, can use smart tag. If kena stop by police, then she have to go down and open bonnet to take out her purse and show IC/ driving license? which is very very unlikely.

manual gate better or auto gate better? XD

Manual gate, before you park the car into the house already got rob.

yup, scared the gate might be broken....i only lock my gate if i'm away from home for a long period of time, if not i wont bother to lock the gate

Hi all, any suggestion/ways to prevent such thing happen?

The conventional swing auto gate will have a center floor lock, this will prevent the door to be so easy open. If you have no such lock, only way put the EM lock like the link i provided. Can be done, need a professional to do it.

Anyone with swing auto gate have tried to confirm that...

old school swing gate sure got gate stop and solenoid lock, just look around when driving...



This post has been edited by ycs: Jun 10 2011, 05:14 PM

Let's see..
Get 2 Rottweiler, 2 German Shepherd and 2 Bullmastiff..
That should do the job even if there're like 4 robbers
Security guards are not to be trusted as they won't lay their lifes to protect you

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Added on June 10, 2011, 5:47 pm1. Other forumers have already answered
2. The lock is from the side
3. Why not? CCTV position is ultimately decided by the buyer.
4. 1st, try to rob someone, see if you will hesitate unless you are damn experienced, 2nd, when you get robbed, you think you can think clearly?
5. anger overtook rationale, it is possible.
6. No comment, but generally, even in a guarded community, it is possible to enter.

This post has been edited by Searingmage: Jun 11 2011, 12:55 AM

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Added on June 10, 2011, 7:40 pm

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Added on June 10, 2011, 7:44 pmBecause is fake robbery...just acting only..G&G still safe..So far the guard doing a good job..

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Added on June 10, 2011, 7:54 pmBingo!! It's fake!

This post has been edited by 2050205: Jun 10 2011, 07:54 PM

what auto gate brand/company which offer reliable /safety features in the market ?

[quote=Searingmage,Jun 10 2011, 06:43 PM]
Let's see..
Get 2 Rottweiler, 2 German Shepherd and 2 Bullmastiff..
That should do the job even if there're like 4 robbers
Security guards are not to be trusted as they won't lay their lifes to protect you

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Added on June 10, 2011, 5:47 pm

I c, 6 dogs plus my two monkeys, I guess my home will become a zoo already....

Auto gate just an automation stuff to simplify life, not as a measure of protection. The best is still your own self awareness. Look around each time when reaching your home. If there are suspicious people following, I will wait for them to overtake me while I purposely slow down or even stop. Its easier to prevent them outside as you can just step on the accelerator and run them down. Dont put your bags on the seat when there is no passenger. I always try to put them on the car floor where they will be harder to spot.

This post has been edited by andrekua: Jun 11 2011, 05:18 PM

For G&G, the guard only guards the entrance and maybe got the house that's within the guards view
only.. Historically, there's already so many theft & robberies happened in G&G area.. But of course,
the probability for that to happen is much less relative to non-gated area..

- The gate doesn't have solenoid lock.. some autogate comes with the lock, some doesn't come with the
lock, but it can be installed separately.. At the same time, the thief also has done their homework.. The
surely have checked whether the gate comes with lock or not..

- Nowadays, there's so many good cctv on the market.. if the aunty can drive a merc, it is not impossible
for her to get a good cctv..

This post has been edited by zeese: Jun 16 2011, 12:31 PM

G&G is not immune to all these robberies but it helped reduce the cases.

Whether the whole drama is fake or otherwise, we are here to discuss about the AUTOGATE and its features especilly on security concerns.

i wonder whether the gate motor (as in the video) is broken or not after the gate was forcefully pulled open?

please view the video again.... not the autogate not strong... i think is the installation or the product problem. Do u all notice, there are no lock mechanism at the center(both door when shut)? Ordinary autogate come with a locking devices at the center of both door... that's to prevent ppl to open it by force...

time to electrify the gate...

[quote=great2bcool,Jun 11 2011, 05:08 PM]
[quote=Searingmage,Jun 10 2011, 06:43 PM]
Let's see..
Get 2 Rottweiler, 2 German Shepherd and 2 Bullmastiff..
That should do the job even if there're like 4 robbers
Security guards are not to be trusted as they won't lay their lifes to protect you

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Added on June 10, 2011, 5:47 pm

I c, 6 dogs plus my two monkeys, I guess my home will become a zoo already....

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Bbbb... bbbuttt... you will be safe!!!

Good, any agent in Malaysia? I would like to install one.

as i know, most of auto gate doesnt come with lock mechanism... as usual the center part only come with triangle shape of black rubber thinggy to prevent the auto gate swing till inner part of car porch area...

Would have been different if there are dogs.
Not necessarily German Shepherd or Rottweiler or any particular guard dogs, I think a Mongrels or two would have been good enough.
But don't expect your Chihuahua to guard your house la...

That's why I am keeping guard dogs for my house!!! Hell yeah!

Dogs could produce a lot of noise, this is what u compensate for!

You have to ask the EM lock installer, if the EM are weather proof any train installer will be able to do it.

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Added on June 18, 2011, 11:58 pmThe center part, on the door itself have a solenoid and this will prevent the door from being force out. Just like when no electric, use the key to turn the solenoid and push the gate open. This are all the older generation auto door. The newer version some don't have the center solenoid.

This post has been edited by weikee: Jun 18 2011, 11:58 PM

Haha, good CCTV image, poor autogate system.

Sue the autogate contractor, You are short changed !!!

Proper system should have a "auto lock" on the floor where the 2 side gate meet. Contractor to lazy to install as they need to enclose wiring in the concrete ground also.

With the auto lock, you need to be very strong to pull your gate open and this 5 to 10 seconds should give you a time window to save yourself.

weikee,

thanks for the explaination.... that's y need to becareful to evaluate when choosing auto gate.... old skool tech does not means not good... and new product does not necessary to be always good....

This part of the auto gate is also the safety hazard. People (especially old folks or visitors) can trip over the rubber piece that is fixed to the floor.

haha.this video is fake 1 la. where can so easy can open the gate? haha

u tried to forced "pull and push" any auto gate before?

The reaction of aunti looks real to me, very startled. Is solenoid same as em ? I went to someone's opis, duno its em locked, pushed it firmly with my body forward & it opened. The reception looked at me astonished.

Wouldn't say if the video is fake or not. But, generally the auto gate would not be able to be push open so easily as shown in the video. The auto gate system could be faulty or it was tempered with.

When you install already, let us know. We can try open for you

next time have to build a garage with a steel garage door. I wonder how the local MP views this sort of renovation to a normal house....lol.

Because of this video, I insisted my autogate guy to install the centre locking solenoid thing. It seems easy. They just cut hole in one gate and push a few cables through. Attach to the little box in the middle and connect it up.

just wondering the what is the price range for the EM lock? beberapa puluh or ratus ?

Around 200+ with the bracket. You need to controller unit.

Firstly, EM lock is still vulnerable to attempt break in. Nothing is safe! Solenoid has a certain length whereby a "crowbar" can easily jack it and detach the solenoid away from the bracket.

Secondly, every auto-gate system comes with locking mechanism which had led to removal of EM lock usage since it can be prone to wear and tear due to water and rust.

Autogate is just merely a convenient of entering the house without getting out from the car. Safety is close to zero. Thief can always climb in.

These video is just to tarnish the usage of auto-gate.

Where your video?

But EM lock is still better than solenoid. Yes, solenoid can easy push out, my autogate installer told me too.

There are weather proof EM lock.

EM lock and solenoid lock is different. EM lock require constant 12v or 24v to power it... once i cut the cable, there goes the lock.

Solenoid is still better option yet is still not safe.

Weather proof lock is good, is the internal solenoid coil that wears out.

Everything is possible, hence a good installer is a must using GI Flexi is always better, with EM lock is still better than nothing. Of course if want full safety on gate just put a pad lock.


http://www.esi-access.com/index.php?ws=our...g=#openproducts

using pad lock just renderer the auto-gate useless.

Always be caution at all time when entering your house is the best bet.

There is no best of both world. is take and give.

Staying is an G&G housing area help is reducing the risks...

How many Malaysian can afford the maintain-ace fees?

Ai ya just accept the fact that there is no 100% solution.
If the other guy wanna kena you, there is always a way.

Stay in the car until gate fully close. If someone force open the gate while it still closing. REVERSE the car bang that A-z-z-Hole

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 11 2011, 12:18 PM

sliding auto gate better abit..for at least...

Sliding gate.. I am using one now at my parent house. Is very slow to open and close. And lift it the gate will be easy open

Aside from the gate in the video not having the locking mechanism, the newer gates are harder to pull and push. In any case auto gates are more of a convenience than a safety feature.

I have a question here... Can ppl hack your auto gate signal?

That means they can control your auto gate also...

Yes is possible if you have the time. Unless use code hopping remote.

Buy one oem remote, inside you have 8 dip switch, each dip switch have 3 level (+, 0, -). So you just sit beside the gate play around the combination. So the odd will be 1:6561 to get it correct.

This post has been edited by weikee: Feb 16 2012, 01:56 PM

my opposite neighbour which moved in new house about 2 years and used those under mounted arm mechanism...
i even saw his kid about 3-4 years old able to push and pull the auto gate and swing it without sweat...