I thought N8 coming in July has this Anna?

I read the front has Gorilla glass. What about the glass protecting the camera lens at the rear?

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jun 28 2011, 09:32 AM

From what I read, they only ship Symbian Anna in July so I will likely hold off my purchase until then because Anna seems to address some serious shortcoming in text input and web browser real time scrolling.

BTW, what's the street price for the N8 for original set with warranty?

I am also waiting to see N9's photo and from these early shot, it seems they are just as good as N8 for distance shot but seems to lose out in macro shot.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia-n9-ve...amples/#4257442

Do they give you extra memory card?

I found the listed price beginning of the month was RM1690 and street price about RM1300. But this week, I notice the list price has been reduced to RM1360.

Do you see this N9's photo as good as N8? i don't think so even though I don't have N8. May be N8 owner can concur?

http://computechgadgets.com/gadgets/nokia-...ages-and-videos

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jun 29 2011, 12:28 PM

Thanks

Hi. One more question. Can you input BOTH English and Chinese character onto the same screen? With my E series, you can't. It's either all English or all Chinese input.

So did you sell your N82 and for how much?

If not and if it's not worth much money, then it just prove my point and that is, I never bother with casing and screen protection because those things just get in the way of enjoyment. So may as well make the most out of it.

Of course, if you intend to resell your phone after 6 months or so, then better give it some protection. My 2 sen.

How come? I thought all Nokia comes with 1 year Nokia warranty?

May I ask, without enabling AGPS, how long does the N8 takes to lock onto satellite from a cold start?

This is no better then the older E Series. OTOH, I have seen Samsung S and iPad being able to lock within seconds with AGPS. Is Nokia still so bad or did the Samsung/ipad played some trick?

My mistake in previous post. I am asking about lock time for Integrated GSP (without AGPS)

All without AGPS....
E Series takes a few minutes
Samsung Galaxy & iPad takes seconds
Now you say N8 also takes a few minutes.

I saw all those with my own eyes so was wondering why such big difference.



This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 05:25 PM

I am quite familiar with GPS and all those last position memory, cold start, warm start, concrete building, clouds, car tint etc. Even with standalone Garmin (2yrs old unit) and from a total cold start (new country first time use), it also takes a few minutes.

Yet when I did comparison, all units were side-by-side-same-time, move to new location in town, and AGSP-disabled so that removes variables like location, building, cloud cover and what have you. And yet those newer Samsung and iPad seems to lock within seconds and this is the part I don't understand. So I thought, may be my E series is old tech and the N8 may be better but apparently not. Hence my asking.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 06:05 PM

No bad but still far less impressive from what I saw on the other units. How about move to new location and see u can repeat that? Would be interested to know the outcome. Thks

I don't fancy going traveling with one pocket with handphone and another with bulky standalone GPS unit (I doubt it will even fit into the pocket) when I may or may not even use it. In fact, I don't see anyone doing that.

Also, whenever I reach a new place, I like to take a photo with GPS coordinate and I don't think the standalone have a good enough camera.

So handphone with good camera & GPS is the most logical choice.

For car use, it will be when I rent a car in a new town so can always carry a in-car charger to handle the battery issue.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 10:30 PM

I disagree.

If other phones GPS also take 2 minutes, I have no problem with that. But if some only take seconds whereas N8 takes minutes, don't you start to question why?

As for photos. Well, while N8 may be better, I also see some other phones doing OK as well. In fact, if not for the free everything GPS of Nokia, I might consider an Andriod like the Samsung Galaxy S or S2 or even iPhone instead.

BTW, it is still hard to believe any phone without AGPS can lock in mere seconds but that was what I saw, hence my asking what's going on?


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 10:42 PM

My AGPS is always on when I am in Malaysia. But not everywhere in Malaysia you got Telco coverage so non-AGPS time is useful. And also when overseas.

So you suggesting the slower N8 lock time is due to the processor speed?

Yes, my guess is more likely due to GPS chips or location of the chip in phone or antenna design and less to do with processor speed like you suggested earlier. But not sure, hence my asking question.

Either way, if other phone can lock faster, why not the supposedly top-of-the-line N8?

As for accuracy, my E series can sometimes get the position wrong by as much as 30 meters when GPS is supposedly within 10 meter but to be fair, it's usually in the concrete jungle. Imagine my surprise when I found the Samsung being far more accurate when compared side by side. I was hoping the newer N8 will be better than the older E series.

Hoping the latest OVI Maps 3.06 will be better and also able to search using coordinates on-the-fly.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 11:13 PM

Seems better than the E Series. If you move locations, say 1 kilometer away, will it still takes that long or shorter time to lock? I suppose your OVI maps is 3.04 and not the latest 3.06? One thing I hope they have fixed is the search by coordinate on-the-fly.

If you achieve a lock, exit GPS and relauch GPS, it will take mere seconds because it still have memory of last satelite location. I think this is called Warm start.

Instead, switch off GPS. Move to a new location some distance away and try again. If you move to a new country, takes even longer to lock. This is Cold start or very Cold start LOL.

At that price, I also want.