Depending on location. It can be 3mins up to forever if there is obstruction at that area.

This is no better then the older E Series. OTOH, I have seen Samsung S and iPad being able to lock within seconds with AGPS. Is Nokia still so bad or did the Samsung/ipad played some trick?

With a-gps it usually locks within seconds. Its not really expensive its about 10 cents per lock.

Nokia phones gps improved alot di. My previous E series and older version cant work properly in tinted cars like V-cool. Now this problem already resolved.







This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 6 2011, 02:38 PM

He was replying to someone asking how long it takes to lock **without AGPS** lor.

you wanna know the time for agps enabled or disabled? you asked for nokia agps disabled locking time and then you compare with samsung/ipad locking with agps??

My mistake in previous post. I am asking about lock time for Integrated GSP (without AGPS)

All without AGPS....
E Series takes a few minutes
Samsung Galaxy & iPad takes seconds
Now you say N8 also takes a few minutes.

I saw all those with my own eyes so was wondering why such big difference.



This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 05:25 PM

sometimes it got to do with signal attena attached to n8...

few minutes could be inside the car ( tinted how heavy we can't know )

and also depends of where you are to get the GPS signal...

the reason why some takes a few seconds and some takes longer might be due to the previous location. lets say, if the last location you use your gps was in kl. and then now you're in penang and you use it, it'll take considerably longer to lock your position simply because it needs longer time to locate you. however if you continue using in kl, then it'll be faster. other factors such as weather and surroundings such as buildings will also affect locking time. but nokia has improved a lot in their gps system. now even can use wifi to lock your position.

I am quite familiar with GPS and all those last position memory, cold start, warm start, concrete building, clouds, car tint etc. Even with standalone Garmin (2yrs old unit) and from a total cold start (new country first time use), it also takes a few minutes.

Yet when I did comparison, all units were side-by-side-same-time, move to new location in town, and AGSP-disabled so that removes variables like location, building, cloud cover and what have you. And yet those newer Samsung and iPad seems to lock within seconds and this is the part I don't understand. So I thought, may be my E series is old tech and the N8 may be better but apparently not. Hence my asking.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 06:05 PM

I just tested cold start without simcard got a lock in less than 2mins

No bad but still far less impressive from what I saw on the other units. How about move to new location and see u can repeat that? Would be interested to know the outcome. Thks

I already did it will upload the video soon enough

actually if ur main function is GPS... might as well get a sole gadget GPS device rather than mobile phone GPS... coz it's rather battery consuming...

I don't fancy going traveling with one pocket with handphone and another with bulky standalone GPS unit (I doubt it will even fit into the pocket) when I may or may not even use it. In fact, I don't see anyone doing that.

Also, whenever I reach a new place, I like to take a photo with GPS coordinate and I don't think the standalone have a good enough camera.

So handphone with good camera & GPS is the most logical choice.

For car use, it will be when I rent a car in a new town so can always carry a in-car charger to handle the battery issue.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 10:30 PM

Confirmed but dunno when releasing

How can u compare like that? Best camera and u complaint its gps slow compare to other device. The other device combine together also cant take photo as sharp as the N8 le sifu

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 6 2011, 10:30 PM

I disagree.

If other phones GPS also take 2 minutes, I have no problem with that. But if some only take seconds whereas N8 takes minutes, don't you start to question why?

As for photos. Well, while N8 may be better, I also see some other phones doing OK as well. In fact, if not for the free everything GPS of Nokia, I might consider an Andriod like the Samsung Galaxy S or S2 or even iPhone instead.

BTW, it is still hard to believe any phone without AGPS can lock in mere seconds but that was what I saw, hence my asking what's going on?


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 6 2011, 10:42 PM

that depending on the hardware what going on is until today nokia do not have a 1ghz phone in market. Still running 680mhz. I dont complaint because i understand nothing is perfect. If i am rushing i pay for a-gps.
Thats my opinion. Like web browsing yes N8 is disappointing thats why i have my ipad with me. I have the best of both world

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 6 2011, 10:57 PM

My AGPS is always on when I am in Malaysia. But not everywhere in Malaysia you got Telco coverage so non-AGPS time is useful. And also when overseas.

So you suggesting the slower N8 lock time is due to the processor speed?