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 Ford Fiesta 1.6L sport Ti-VCT automatic, to buy or not to buy? Please VOTE!! tq!!

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DrBarbarian
post May 29 2011, 11:20 AM

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well... I was shopping for a small car for my fiancee couple of months back and 308 was one of the cars I was considering... checked with 308 owners then and that's how I got the information.... 2 ppl I know had to replace their battery after 6 months....

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post May 29 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(legendaryghost @ May 27 2011, 09:45 PM)
I juz went to ford service center today. Guess what? The mechanic told me they juz change 3 gearbox of ford fiesta. There is some rust inside the dual clutch gearbox when they open up it. I dunno it is truth or not? This is what he told me today.
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Really?
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post May 29 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ May 29 2011, 11:20 AM)
well... I was shopping for a small car for my fiancee couple of months back and 308 was one of the cars I was considering... checked with 308 owners then and that's how I got the information.... 2 ppl I know had to replace their battery after 6 months....
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err... how does the windscreen crack relate to the battery problem?

308 battery is pretty confirm as 3 of my friends (2 Thp and 1 Vti) had their battery change in less than 1 year ... shakehead.gif

however, I think I will try out the Fiesta ... Kajang got 1 showroom tongue.gif

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gon3wooha
post May 29 2011, 12:33 PM

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how come ford fiesta no paddle shift?? and no manual version?? rclxub.gif
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post May 29 2011, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 29 2011, 12:33 PM)
how come ford fiesta no paddle shift?? and no manual version?? rclxub.gif
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i tot the 1.4L is the manual one??
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post May 29 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ May 29 2011, 01:10 PM)
i tot the 1.4L is the manual one??
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i don take 1.4 into consideration whistling.gif
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post May 29 2011, 03:47 PM

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Brilliant car. Had it for about a month now and no problems. I guess the only problem with it is you don't feel the speed you're doing. I've been shocked looking down at my speedo on a few occasions biggrin.gif.

A very small gripe is that it doesn't have any way to manually change gears like the focus automatic. I would have got the manual, but I wanted the extra features in the 1.6. Also the gear stick label is on the left-hand side of the stick, meaning you can't actually see what gear you've selected easily. You get used to the order of them fairly soon though, so its not a big deal. And of course the indicator stalk is on the wrong side sad.gif.

The saloon version looks...weird. I wouldn't go for that.

I love the centre console though. And the semi-bucket seats.

Great purchase. They are coming up with a slightly modified version with 6 airbags and a body kit for a little extra cash now.
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post May 29 2011, 04:42 PM

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Since there r owners of fiesta here, how do u actually control or select the gear u wanted? Say when going down genting?
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post May 29 2011, 05:43 PM

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just did some browsing n 1 2 share v u all.

i found that focus sequential sport shift(sss) is uder the category of automatic transmission which i was very surprise. shocking.gif in the sss mode / so-called manual mode, when u rev until a certain limit, the car is programmed to upshift to upper gear. it's dissapointing to know that..

fiesta dual clutch transmission is under the category of semi-auto transmission, it is using clutch instead of torque converter. it ll be like attaching a pair of wing on a tiger if fiesta is equipped v paddle shift in malaysia. biggrin.gif
i really dont know why fiesta in malaysia no paddle shift shakehead.gif

please correct me if i m wrong..

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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 29 2011, 05:43 PM)
just did some browsing n 1 2 share v u all.

i found that focus sequential sport shift(sss) is uder the category of automatic transmission which i was very surprise.  shocking.gif  in the sss mode / so-called manual mode, when u rev until a certain limit, the car is programmed to upshift to upper gear. it's dissapointing to know that..

fiesta dual clutch transmission is under the category of semi-auto transmission, it is using clutch instead of torque converter. it ll be like attaching a pair of wing on a tiger if fiesta is equipped v paddle shift in malaysia.  biggrin.gif
i really dont know why fiesta in malaysia no paddle shift  shakehead.gif

please correct me if i m wrong..
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in the focus, and i think in most cars, even in the manual sss mode, the gear will shift up when u hit certain rpm. this is a protective mechanism to protect the gearbox. usually it will shift up when u hit the redline. and in some cars, u can only shift down a gear when the rev is below a certain limit (e.g. 4000rpm in Pug 308). If rev more than the limit, it wont shift down. anyway, i havent test drive the focus yet, but i've seen the gearstick and stuff, so i know a bit... tongue.gif
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post May 29 2011, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 29 2011, 05:53 PM)
in the focus, and i think in most cars, even in the manual sss mode, the gear will shift up when u hit certain rpm. this is a protective mechanism to protect the gearbox. usually it will shift up when u hit the redline. and in some cars, u can only shift down a gear when the rev is below a certain limit (e.g. 4000rpm in Pug 308). If rev more than the limit, it wont shift down. anyway, i havent test drive the focus yet, but i've seen the gearstick and stuff, so i know a bit... tongue.gif
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redline of rpm meter?? what if in low gear?? it is not possible to hit the red line. hmm.gif
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post May 29 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 29 2011, 06:24 PM)
redline of rpm meter?? what if in low gear?? it is not possible to hit the red line.  hmm.gif
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eh, if low gear should be easier to hit redline right?
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post May 29 2011, 06:35 PM

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For Pug 308, the gear wont shift up if it's in Sport Mode.
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post May 29 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 29 2011, 06:27 PM)
eh, if low gear should be easier to hit redline right?
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watch the fiesta 0-60mph in you tube n u ll know..
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post May 29 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ May 29 2011, 04:42 PM)
Since there r owners of fiesta here, how do u actually control or select the gear u wanted? Say when going down genting?
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Stick it in L. It seems a bit misnamed as the car uses all 6 gears in L, it just holds them for longer making it easier to go uphill. There is also a "grade assist" button on the side of the gearstick which is apparently for hilly terrain, but I've not tried it out.

Since there's no manual override, you can't actually manually work your way through the gears which is a shame.
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ May 29 2011, 06:41 PM)
Stick it in L. It seems a bit misnamed as the car uses all 6 gears in L, it just holds them for longer making it easier to go uphill. There is also a "grade assist" button on the side of the gearstick which is apparently for hilly terrain, but I've not tried it out.

Since there's no manual override, you can't actually manually work your way through the gears which is a shame.
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so the L is like sports mode?


Added on May 29, 2011, 6:48 pm
QUOTE(Pogostik @ May 29 2011, 06:35 PM)
For Pug 308, the gear wont shift up if it's in Sport Mode.
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but u cant engage sport mode while in the manual mode. hmm.gif

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post May 29 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 29 2011, 06:47 PM)
so the L is like sports mode?
Well, it seems like it, but in the manual it says to use it in hilly conditions only (not that I listen tongue.gif). What I don't understand is if L is meant for hills, whats the grade assist button for?

Damn these automatic boxes are confusng rclxub.gif Give me a 5-speed any day!
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post May 29 2011, 07:58 PM

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grade assist is to assist when starting on a hill. it will hold the car for a few seconds when u're starting uphill. good for new drivers, i usually just hold brake with left foot, and build rev with right. tongue.gif
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post May 29 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 29 2011, 07:58 PM)
grade assist is to assist when starting on a hill. it will hold the car for a few seconds when u're starting uphill. good for new drivers, i usually just hold brake with left foot, and build rev with right. tongue.gif
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That's Hill Launch Assist (some call it Hill Hold Assist). It kicks in when the gradient is 3% or more.

Gradient Assist is that little button on your gear stick. Not sure how to explain it though other than quoting websites.

Popular Mechanics describes it as "designed to eliminate autobox “hunting” for the right ratio on steep roads."
Emotormag calls it "In addition a gradient assist function can be activated when climbing steep gradients where there may be a tendency for the transmission to continually shift between gears. By activating a button located on the gear lever, it allows for improved drivability in hilly terrain."

But if based on driving feel, upon activating gradient assist, the RPM goes up and you get more accelerating power when driving uphill. Tried this on Karak highway during my trip to Kuantan. Without GA on some really steep climbs, acceleration feels slightly sluggish but when GA is activated, you can feel the acceleration power suddenly kicking in. I have only used GA when climbing up steep roads since I think that's where the name Gradient Assist comes from. Plus, using GA on flat roads will be detrimental to FC due to the high RPM. Never tried it on downhill motion though.
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 29 2011, 06:47 PM)
so the L is like sports mode?


Added on May 29, 2011, 6:48 pmbut u cant engage sport mode while in the manual mode. hmm.gif
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I have erred in my post before. In Pug 308, there are 3 modes, Economic, Sport and tiptronic (manual). Economic and Sport modes are full auto. The different between Economic and Sport is, in Sport mode, the engine will rev higher before it shifts up. In tiptronic mode, you can manually shift up or down. While the gear will automatically shift down when RPM is too low, it will never, automatically, shift up. Hope it clears it up smile.gif

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