Thanks, but there is this issue where most employers tend to hire experience employee than phd holders.

Do it in M'sia? I read your post back then in 'Reason to get a PhD'; you strongly recommend ppl to do it oversea not?

Honestly, please do it overseas if you can afford it. Our local standards are abysmal in comparison to other universities bar a few.

But most of the oversea university want us to do master first. I don't think first degree is exempted from doing master in oversea.

Not necessarily. If your Master research is excellent, you might get a 'promotion' to graduate as a PhD, which is quite common.

Let's put it this way; research is a lifelong task. The paper qualifications are just a short stopovers from your ultimate destination. It is more important to choose a good supervisor (with funds ) and an institution with great facilities/equipments and colleagues. Not much difference from choosing the right company to work in.

In term of good supervisor, and equipment as well as great colleague; my current university-to-be has it all. The only disadvantages would be the fame; it's local and not oversea.

Anyway, I appreciate your post. TY.

muda lagi go futher study la...3 years only...u get ur phd ur super big boss also will call u Dr

The title is not the main reason I want to do it.

I wish to join into this forum...if taking part time PhD..is it advisable ? as I am plan to do it at AeU...any idea about this U ?
TQ

If you're a first class degree holder and do not get 5k after 3 years, then sadly u r either not-performing in your work or you have just joined the wrong company. while PhD has its advantage during an interview, i'm sure you would have to join a company that needs the knowledge you gained from your research work. so, you'll have to be very determined to end up at a place you visualized 3 years earlier.

having said that, 5k can buy u small car, small house and a working wife. maybe you should think out of the "salary" reasoning. no offence. just my opinion.

AeU stand for? If you're able to multitasking between your work and night/weekend-time-research then why not? Most of my friend hesitate to do that is because they can't even manage their work. In my opinion, why not discuss with your company to send you for a phd with a contract.

I'm actually very new to phd and not even taken phd; just in the phase of planning now, so my answer could be helpless. Sorry.

haha..good point over there, 5k is just a starter. What I'm trying to say is you might earn 5k in 3 years without a phd too. But there is always competition; you have to compete among the Degree holders (let's say) for promotion, meaning you have to shine to the max to catch the attention of your employer. Aside from that, bear in mind there is always Msc holders, which is by large has more chances to get the promotion than you. Promotion in 3 years is possible but with a higher odds; some might be CEO in 3 years, but what I'm trying to say is by the majority, 3 years to get promotion to 5k without a phd is near impossible.

Phd on the other hand has a more secure route. You finish your phd (3-4 years), you get into the industry with zilch experience; but you get some Senior Executive Position (5k minimum). That's what most of the engineers out there told me: 3 years to boast up your salary to 5k; possible but not everyone can get.

My perspective of higher salary is not just getting 5k, but an easy and more secure route to getting 5k in 3 years.

That's just my opinion too.

first of all, from the perspective of somebody who've gone through the challenges of a PhD:

if u're planning to do a PhD and asking about how much u're gonna earn afterwards, u're setting up for a disappointment. get ur priorities straight. PhD does not mean u'll earn more.

if u wanna earn more, go get working experience. it's much easier and less stress on ur head.

AeU is stand for Asia E University. For more information, you may browse http://www.aeu.edu.my/.
FYI, I am from govt sector, I don't want to tie up with govt contract, furthermore, I wish to be a lecture and as far as I am concern, the bottom line to be a lecturer, a person must have a PhD. Now my main constraint would be the time factors....how the life being a Phd ? as I am planning to take part time.....any idea about it...tq

then what's the main reason you do your phd? Salary didn't ever come across your head?
I'm not aiming for high BIG bucks salary; i mean a phd will at least secure your salary; a better salary is a 'for sure' right?

I'm not very sure about part time, perhaps azarimy can help since he already started his phD.
But to be a lecturer, it's a must in most of the university (some action taken to raise the reputation of M'sia Uni)

IMO you need to take the research route, because the local uni's prefer candidates who are qualified researchers and have the relevant experience. Doing part time PhD (if there is such a thing) usually mean course works (classes/exams/presentations) which would not help you with writing journals and research papers (the current policy iirc, is for an academic staff to write and publish a journal/research paper every year) and supervising postgraduate students.

What Azarimy meant is you have the wrong mindset for wanting to do a PhD. Salary should not be an important criteria in deciding to uptake the course.

Yes, a PhD qualification may attract the big corporations which may shower you with good offers but you have the survive the trials and tribulations of PhD first! So, it's important you have a correct mindset and aim.

haha..i know what azarimy mean. I just wanna joke with him about salary.
PhD is not always about money, but it do attract more money (that is still a plus not?)
But the reason I really want to do it is I feel that there is still thing I haven't settle, you know that feeling of wanting to complete every stages in computer games? Or you can call that as my interest.

lolz.

And for part time phd, it's usually very hectic, you take longer time to complete around 6 years. During this years, you have to sacrifice your weekend/night time to do research. The main problem with part time phd is:

1. Can you bear sacrificing your leisure time for research? Some engineers I knew in my previous company, give up half way (after a years or so) because they lose their interest as the time for completing a part time phd is rather long.

2. You may have to take leave just to meet your supervisor, back to the university for the test, etc aka performance lower. You employers will sometimes irritated by this.

3. Hectic, can you manage multitasking?

Are you a lecturer now? Cause in my university, the lecturers are paid to have their phd. I mean they are still consider working even when they're out doing their phd. There are fund for that, I suppose.

Rather than you take part time phd, in my opinion, why not apply for Industry Phd (It's actually a full time phd but you can do it with your company, provided that your company and university agree on that).

The above is totally based on my limited understanding, I just share my opinion based on my slight understanding to phd. If there are mistake, please bear with me.

Nope, not a lecturer, just a part-time tutor.

I believe, no one can justify your stand to take a PhD. Only you yourself will walk the talk, not the critics nor your supporters. At the end of the day, it's your decision that matters

If you have the interest (and funds!), by all means go for it.

the reason for my PhD?

refer to this article:

http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/

i just wanna add another dent in the world knowledge. PhD is the only place in the modern world where a mere mortal can leave his mark forever. i mean, we cant build pyramids anymore, can we? lol.

for me, taking Phd just not only about monetary term of the title....but to further explore something we wanted to know...just like we are diving in the deep sea level to look for a needle...

A dent long enough to see another dent proves it wrong

Edit: Ops it's the same

This post has been edited by matt85: Jun 3 2011, 05:41 PM