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 Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best v3, NP9130/9150/9170 with Ivy Bridge

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post Jun 6 2011, 01:14 AM

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I tought of getting sager lappy but so hectic to go trough custom. ~ =.=

But i wonder. Can Sager actually change its like say GC or CPU like Desktop computer?
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post Jun 6 2011, 01:43 AM

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But im thinking the new GTX 560 and i7 2nd gen is good .. It all for gaming so 500GB is sufficent. Want to play and delete after finish game just to make space for new game.
Im currently use my Acer core 2 duo with GT9600m. After 3 Years, it seems it cant run much of todays game. So sad ~~

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post Jun 6 2011, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jun 6 2011, 02:21 AM)
oooowww...my old HP had same spec as your Acer, yeah 6900m GT actually is quiet weak, even nowadays a GTX560M is not that satisfying for gamers....hehe, unless....u are talking about a desktop 560 ! hahaha biggrin.gif but yeah 2620M would be enough already if u do gaming only, but if u got the money my recommendation will be GTX485m and a 2920xm or 6970M
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GTX 485 more power than GTX 560 ?? hmm.gif How come ? GTX 560 is the latest right? The core is 775mhz for GTX560 while 485 is 557mhz. How can be so power ?
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post Jun 6 2011, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Jun 6 2011, 02:37 AM)
GTX560M only got 192 SP with 192-bit.
GTX485M got 384 SP with 256-bit..

GTX560M basically slightly faster GTX460M..
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SP ?? hmm.gif Elaborate more.. hmm.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Jun 6 2011, 02:28 AM)
Why got money don't buy a desktop for gaming??Why want spend 11k+ for a gaming laptop??
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I actually have one... My rig = I7 920 with GTX 580 SLi.. blush.gif

Laptop is for traveling. tongue.gif Since im mostly on my work area than my home.
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post Jun 8 2011, 01:23 AM

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I wonder about Sager sound system /.. Which brand is it ? Is it 5.1 ? or not ?

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post Jul 7 2011, 06:51 PM

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That Sager NP8150 comes with GTX580... Is this the spec or another upgrade?

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post Jul 7 2011, 07:53 PM

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8130 can upgrade to gtx 580? i cant find the options there.


Added on July 7, 2011, 7:57 pmThe most i wanteed to know is the Audio. Is it the best or its suck?
Got any sample anyone can paste ?


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post Jul 8 2011, 01:25 AM

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Can np8130 upgrade? Lets say after a year or so. i want to upgrade the CPU or GPU only. Can this be done?
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post Jul 8 2011, 07:41 PM

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Any suggestion.. Ill opt for sager since my budget is 5k for gaming laptop. Which one is the Best since im also looking for the lappy that can upgrade in the future.
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post Jul 11 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 10 2011, 07:09 PM)
Better don't Overclock any laptop, either CPU or GPU etc, laptop cooling system is way too different with desktop.
Sager also won't deal with damages resulting from OC.
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If OC GPU or CPU and it could damage it. Can get a new GPU or CPU to replace it without changing the whole set. Plus where can get the spare parts ?

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post Jul 11 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 11 2011, 12:54 AM)
If your CPU or GPU spoiled and it is not covered under Sager/illeGear warranty, you can buy the part from us directly.
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So meaning any damage part i can get replacement easy. Hmmmm hmm.gif Intresting.
Can upgrade also ? Say that i want to upgrade the screen to 3d after a year. I just buy the 3d screen only and fit it myself?


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post Jul 11 2011, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(bbs3322 @ Jul 11 2011, 01:54 AM)
Hi bros.

I am interested in Sager notebooks -2 models NP8170 and NP5175. If you know any of following, please help me to clarify my doubts.

1)From other thread, I read that they have Random Freezes and bad screen problem eg. screen look very blue compare to other screens.
Are they over now or still going on? Or any other problem I am not aware of?

2)Should i purchased no dead pixels Guaranteed?

3)How is the build quality, is it ok with just 1 year warranty ?
Are there any difference in build quality between NP8170 and NP5175?

4)Are both of them can be open up and clean dust from vent and fan easily?

5)How is the speak sound of N8170?

6) Is the cooling system of NP8170 much better than NP5175?

7) Can PrinceJ give better price than the advertise price on illegear.com ?

I am mainly using it for browsing, some account work, some games like heroes of might and magic, King'sbounty, civilization, dungeon siege, more on strategy and adventure but not 3d fast movement type, will get sea sick, and also downloading. But I seldom switch it off, may be once every 1 or 2 months for few hours.

So which do u Sifus recommend?

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=.="~ The games your playing does not require powerful graphic card, gtx 560 is good enough. Is the game Civilization V or the first Civilization ? I have to lower my GC to a point of using DX9 with lowest setting. Currently using Acer 6935G ~ 9600mgt.. Which from notebook check is class 3 graphic card. cry.gif ~~ I love to playgame with high setting and smoothness like COD, SniperGhost worrior, Dukenukem3d, GTAIV, Dragon age... looking forward to Oblivion:Skyrim, bioshock-unlimited, Alice:Maddness return, FEAR3.

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post Jul 11 2011, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(bbs3322 @ Jul 11 2011, 05:06 AM)
Hi! ya i know, the game i play do not require strong card. I am looking for 17" not much around in the market. Only dell 3750, i got it for my wife. And next step up is 5175, but 8170 price is not far from 5175. So i am thinking of getting 8170 since it have strong gpu better ventilation, and 2 hard disk space and 4 speaker with subwofer. haha...
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NP8170 is good 17inch with gtx560. This GC can run a lot of latest games with high setting since you dont play FPS but still it is a powerful GC.. its 1st class graphic cards. Good pick i say.


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post Jul 12 2011, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(Hamster X @ Jul 12 2011, 06:14 AM)
Mah pockets aren't that deep bro wink.gif

I think I'll be getting an i7 for sure, but I'm not sure I can fork out enough for the higher tiers. And if they consume even more power then portability will take another unwanted hit. I need to bring this around to class. I'm quite sure it's not too heavy so that's not a problem, which leaves battery life a delicate subject.

Also quick question, the NP8130 has Optimus enabled right?
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Walau..so rich.. i cant get it cause of problem.. so sadding now. cry.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 12 2011, 06:11 PM)
yeah AMD announced 6990M GPU, 1120 Shaders and 715 clock speed and so on , i'm wondering how much will cost each of these cards to upgrade to 6990M crossFire ... AMD REALLY ROCKS ! according to some sources, 6990M is working faster than 580M  biggrin.gif good i didnt upgrade to 580M
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No Phsyx, i no like. I own an ATI5870 (now gif to my bro) play batman and see no Physx effect.. really turn me down.
Now game some game use Physx like Alice Madness return and Crysis 2. People say its an eyecandy but for me, its a DAMN good eyecandy.
So no ATI for me, im on the green house.

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post Jul 13 2011, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 13 2011, 01:16 AM)
I do like PhysX but with DUAL GPU in desktop ! not laptop ... heheits a real frame killer for mobility stuff
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As high as the frame rate goes, your eyes couldnt detect any problem when playing games cause we view the benchmark frame rates and assume its not as fast as we expected but i prefer what my eyes can see, my current laptop is lagging like helll cos it is Duo core on 9600mgt. Playing game is for fun and the story, atmosphere of the game trying to convey. Too much of noticing frame rate every second of the game is totally vexing. If i do this, i totally throw away my lappy, why even bother buy a super gaming lappy when your concern is the rate of frame it produce?
At home, I use high-end graphic card to play games but working time i have to bear with the laggy, choppy game. Games played smooth with more eye-candy is what a gamer want, if you play most FPS game, its not all totally action every second. Beside there is a lots of game like 3rd person eg.GTAIV, AliceMadness, Splintercell, Batman does not require super frame rate. But this game do carry a good eye-candy experience which give me satisfation of playing. I cant wait for TOMB RIDER REBOOT, more PhysX there. Nowadays, so many game using PhysX and it makes my day. biggrin.gif ~~ Cheers Yo !!

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post Jul 13 2011, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Jul 13 2011, 06:02 AM)
to tell the truth, i am not tat sure wat is physx as i just got a good graphic card that got physx D:

i am such a noob D:
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Check it on you tube .. difference between physx on and off. Or to say the least Nvidia and ATI.
See the Batman Arkham physx on and off.. you will see the difference.. see mafia 2 as well.

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post Jul 14 2011, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 14 2011, 12:30 AM)
u did not get actually what i said, my point WAS not to get fps of over 60 in a game like crysis or GTA or whatever, cuz i know myself its useless. that is why they made smt called Vertical SynC to solve this problem of tearin and high FPS for strong SPECs. What i meant to say is having 3D vision and or enabling PhysX are real frame killer, even a 580M can not handle Alice MAdness returns with physX high ! and it will brind down the frame to below 30, so U prefer to play a game that is not smooth with a feature called PHYSX which doest not add any element to the beauty and gameplay of game actually ? if its PC SLI then that would be reasonable to kill the frame rate to 40...And i guess your eyes and everybody eyes would understand the difference of a 30 FPS and 45 FPS above, so u try yourself ! do u prefer to play Crysis with 30 FPS and PhysX ultra (if it would have it) or play more smoother at 50 FPS? that is what i meant to say not the number of FPS the are being produced by powerful GPUs like 6970-6990 or 570 and 580 or Dual Configurations
Compare benchmark..

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD...re.43869.0.html

to this

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForc...5M.42883.0.html

It shows if ultra can slow you down.. just adjust it to high setting without sacraficing the PhysX, but from what i see, it shows high setting gives above 50 FPS. So it a smooth gameplay with PhysX and a good eye-candy.
Difference of this cards is about 10~15 FPS. You might say, "PhysX slow game during gameplay if too much is phsyx appear to happen at all places but hey, ATi do NOT have physx at all. Its no wonder they can run fast.
If i want to play a very lag free smooth game, i just turn off the PhysX. Ambience of every game using physx is important for an enjoyable gameplay.

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post Jul 14 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 14 2011, 12:33 PM)
As personal opinion...but nvidia always advertused with their high settings, check the alice madness physX differehce between high and medium...its a loooot!!!
PhysX setting use is incase your comp cant cope with it. Now almost all Nvidia card can support physx. But playing mobility computer is another thing since it cant compare to a desktop GC.
Lets look at the upcoming game ... Dead Island. There is a you tube demo and this game use PhysX for enviroment. Its not a super high action game which frame rate is not a concern judging by the game but sort of survivor horror in FPS. This shows open world (sandbox) game using beautiful enviroment add realism of PhysX.

See the Gameplay demo 19 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVzRo39P31I&feature=related

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