@jackytiao

Welcome to the small family of sager users in here !! I GUESS ITS GROWING PER A DAY so soon its going to be a large family !
I hope you would enjoy your laptop as we are enjoying.....what spec u have ordered ? good for u all the new lappys are coming all along with 500M GTX series...thats great...even the GTX560M impressed me very much compare to the performance of it previous brother.

yep me too ! for SLI upgrade costs near 5K ! lol....im gonna upgrade to 990X hopefully and then better w8 to c how will AMD react, i am wondering for their black bomb XTX .... well since i am prreettyy satisfied with performance of 6970M crossFire i can trust AMD !! But if U ask me !!! even though they are performing well and scaling well, DUAL GPU laptop is kind of disaster, still buggy however very less, even with having GTX 485m SLI we would experience issues...

yeah but i think 485M is a great upgrade now for those who are having 460m or 460m SLIs....If i Upgrade to 485m SLI then its nt worth for a 7 % increase i should go for 580M sli or the unknown 6990M Cf

Well in my own opinion a GTX560M is quiet enough for a gaming laptop IF you do not want to spend above 10K on your machine, therefore you can look through the other models that can be equip to GTX580m - 570m or 485M.
You can play Games such as Civilization V and even SniperGhost or Bioshock and dragon age on highest settings , they are not very demanding games that can break GTX560M unless you want to maximize some heavy effects such as tessellations and AA . And as well you shouldnt expect 560M be able to some of very demanding games on market such as Crysis, Metro 2033, Crysis 2 or even THE witcher 2, Still some of powerful PC GPUs are struggling with these games on ultra settings, then you might need a laptop configured with DUAL GPU --- but 560M will be ennough to BE SURE you would be able to run many of upcoming games such as battlfiend 3 - Rage - The elder scrolls SKYRIM, Batman Arkham city at Medium or high-settings at native res with a stable playable Frame Rate.


i can say built quality of sager laptops are quiet very well, they have a great minimal design in terms of stability and cooling system, i am a user of NP7282 with 6970M CrossFire and Core i7 970 and i have not experienced any issues in terms of cooling system even when i have overclocked GPU.

Well for the terms of gaming, as you would know current games most are using 2 cores out of 4 cores, or even like 970 and 990 options as a 6 core CPU. Some of few games over market are managed to take advantages of all the QUAD CORE CPUs, even though that would not be bad to tell you difference of a i5 and i7 with a GTX 560M in a game such as DIRT 3 in FPS would be like 1 to 5 FPS difference !!!! well Core i7 is much suitable for purpose of a heavy multi tasking which would be quiet dependent on which CPU u might use (2620QM, 2720QM, 2820QM or 2920XM) - there will not be any heat problem if you are going with core i7 sandy-bridge which are producing less heat and using less power consumption as well.
Well for your propose i am recommednign you core i7 2720QM to up

haha yeah ! i dun have problem in gaming at all ! lol ! as long as i saw that these beast can run The witcher 2 on Ultra with uber sampling off from 40 to 60 FPS ! i am really satisfied with it ! hahah...however ubder sampling is a straight assassin !! can kill FPS to 25 to 35

well the difference between these core i7 CPUs are mostly on having a higher clock however they are with locked multipliers, plus the core ratio of each model is higher as the number says, like 2630QM core ratio is 26 and Core ratio of 2820QM is 28 , the highest clock is for Extrem editions with unlocked miltipliers, moreclock speed and having more Cache size (based on CPU model) will provide us a better multi tasking and speed when some heavy apps are fuctioning together.....thats the difference, i am personally recomendng 2820QM or 2920XM if u are working with some heavy apps such as 3D max, Auto-Cad and so on, will have a faster loading and action specially if laptop have a SSD

then dont forget to get some RAM also ! i mean dun buy with 4GB ! i have 12 GB ram however its useless cuz i close many things most of the time, but if u leave many thigs open and want to play game also, a good cpu plus enough ram might help you much, i am suggesting to u that u can get a SSD as well to load everything faster than usual

in terms of working as engineer and if U do need it, i mean as i explained before having 2920XM even wont help that much to your FPS in games unless U jUst WaNnA HaVe It For The NaMe of EXTREME EDITION and Fun - for me if i have the funds i 'll get 990X ! like cyz the lable is awesome ! haha...but it think it would WORTH if u prefer a heavvyy multi tasking...you might not understand the difference yourself between these range of 2630 to up but i would give a better loading and speed when there many apps left open and running,-- now i have a core i7 970 six Core and sometimes i really can feel that the laptop is very nice ! sometimes i am converting a HD movie from camera while i am browsing, there is no lag over my laptop - so if u dun have problem with your procket then i guess u can easily go with it and be happi - 2720QM to up (2820 and 2920) are really great investments.
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yep once u got the funds a SSD would by really fun ! i can really feel how fast my np7282 is boot up and shitdown or run the apps which are installed in SSD, i was thinking to get for my third storage a 300GB SSD also...its a realy BooosSStt

yeah AMD announced 6990M GPU, 1120 Shaders and 715 clock speed and so on , i'm wondering how much will cost each of these cards to upgrade to 6990M crossFire ... AMD REALLY ROCKS ! according to some sources, 6990M is working faster than 580M good i didnt upgrade to 580M

This post has been edited by Devina_8: Jul 12 2011, 06:14 PM

Video Card Ram is not that important, still 2GB or 1.5 GB is prrettyy enough...well a GDDR5 would have a more speed due to being different in terms of memory speed

but i will w8 for bechmarks, but however, if u look at the page of 6990M at the foot notes tab, AMD is saying that their 6990M is pretty more powerful than 580M performance, SO ! i think if its the truth and since there are no 3D screen for X7200, so why would i pay that extra for 580M sli while i cant use the features of 3D vision with less performance...so that is y i am pointing straightly at 6990M ! but i wanna know the price !!!! lol i hope its half of what it costs for Nvidia cards ...

i didnt know that ... but if so, which reseller is providing that ! however i cant use thats y i choose AMD 6990M cuz of its better scaling (somehow if they didnt advertised for fun ! a better performance than 580M with lower price ! CUz u know !! i am wearing glass, and watching 3D after half an hour makes me headache ... i prefer to run the game at highest possible settings with best frame rate rather than kill half of frame rate becuz of 3D

I do like PhysX but with DUAL GPU in desktop ! not laptop ... heheits a real frame killer for mobility stuff

u did not get actually what i said, my point WAS not to get fps of over 60 in a game like crysis or GTA or whatever, cuz i know myself its useless. that is why they made smt called Vertical SynC to solve this problem of tearin and high FPS for strong SPECs. What i meant to say is having 3D vision and or enabling PhysX are real frame killer, even a 580M can not handle Alice MAdness returns with physX high ! and it will brind down the frame to below 30, so U prefer to play a game that is not smooth with a feature called PHYSX which doest not add any element to the beauty and gameplay of game actually ? if its PC SLI then that would be reasonable to kill the frame rate to 40...And i guess your eyes and everybody eyes would understand the difference of a 30 FPS and 45 FPS above, so u try yourself ! do u prefer to play Crysis with 30 FPS and PhysX ultra (if it would have it) or play more smoother at 50 FPS? that is what i meant to say not the number of FPS the are being produced by powerful GPUs like 6970-6990 or 570 and 580 or Dual Configurations

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Added on July 14, 2011, 12:47 amits not about having money or what. there are many people spending like this !

I'm Sorry ?

This post has been edited by Devina_8: Jul 14 2011, 12:47 AM

its DNS problem but which wireless card are u using, use the device manager properties and update to last drivers of components, if u using bigfoot there is new driver for it
haha ok ! do u have plan of 580M sli ? but its kind of very expensive, around 5k, my 6970M CF is working perfectly as i can run any game on maximum settings, well i was thinking about 6990M CF...haha i really do protect it, after any turn of its time to clean it...be honest, i do love it more than my alienware ! haha...less problems with it...

Haha ok...goodluck....i wanna marry to my lappy!!! Better, no wedding and cloth need, this two will cost a llllooootttt

As personal opinion...but nvidia always advertused with their high settings, check the alice madness physX differehce between high and medium...its a loooot!!!

U can check the sager bsite for layest drivers published by them, and yet u can directly call to your reseller and ask them to solve your issue

flickring is driver issue, i had that problem with the old driver of AMD while crossFire was enabled (11.5) with 11.6B no flickring issue appears at all !only and only if i connect the HDMI cable

1. Hello i am Clevo X7200 User with AMD HD 6970M CrossFireX, The Card is really good and even the performance is single option is quiet satisfying but i am not sure when they gonna bring the 6990M to the clevo based laptops, cuz i am looking forward to upgrade both of my GPUs to 6990M but no news, THE TEMPS are prretty much good and mine with being DUAL GPU never been over 80 --- difference between GTX485m and 6970M is not that much and you will not feel it much since all the current games running with the playable FPS of over 30 or 50 except metro 2033 and crysis 1 and 2 .... the diffrerence of these two with 580m and 6990m will be from 10 to 15% however we dun have much info from 6990m option, but i heard this card gonna be available after the official release at Q3 or Q4 2011 for clevo laptops, Most OF the difference between this cards in single configuration will be in bechmarking, I stil do believe we gonna be able to play all the upcoming games like Duese x or Skyrim - batman and rage on the higher settings (except DUAL configurations ) - 6970M is still available .

2. the thermal paste will be done by the sager when laptop is being built to do that yourself u need to be almost a familiar user with this things

4. im not sure between the quality of intel SSD with other companies cuz im a new user to it also, i have a 80GB ssd and recently i got a 510series but i havent install it on my 3rd storage since i planed to get another 750 to make RAID0 - but even for me the 80GB intel SSD is still enough, i have some daily use APPS like Word and phtoshop or convertor in SSD and all the other apps like games are stored in my second HDD and i use 3 1TB external drive for my other things .....

5. i have the bigfoot card for wireless and from my experience with alienware with intel wireless and macbook this bigfoot works great sicne its trying to keep the speed at a great stability over programs and i got very better results when i download from torrent and work same time with browser .

being phased out means it gonna be replace by other model soon usually haha....but in reality terms means no more ...... no always cards are supported with drivers, even much much older cards are still supported by the current and upcoming drivers .......the stability of these cards are pretty good and even much much better with new drivers of 1.7 specially crossfire scale ( back to before 6970M CF still has a better scale compare to its own nvidia competitor 485m sli ) well no issue i experienced so far with this cards

- the thermal will be paste when the laptop is being built, chhoooosssee the Ic diamond and dun worri about your temps, i have a 6core 970 cpu and dual gpu of 6970m on my np7282 and i dun have any problem with temps ..

Gus the drivers of 11.7 is officialy out for those who have AMD cards, plus the 11.6 CAP 3 for any crossfire users, The bonus driver preview of 11.8 is out ! its an awesome driver but make sure u have uninstall any driver before installing 11.8 driver - it will incrase the performance of Tessellation generally, Specially there is significant improvement over CrossFire scale - average of 10% incrase iin performance, According to my test over crysis 2 .... there is no place below 30FPS .... average of 30 for ultra Vsync ON !! AWESOME WORK AMD

Y sager Didnt update their website with 6990M upgrade for np7280 ! strange im considering get two of those for my np7282, other resellers like Origin Pc are offering it still .

This post has been edited by Devina_8: Aug 5 2011, 02:40 PM