not dare to take the risk.....ur unit whole view look nice also!!
i tried one time open 3 games and doesnt lag....really a beast man~

So i basically need an all rounder for lets say budget is RM5000 - better to be less..

I spotted this two monsters.. NP8130 and NP8150..

If you compare the two standard without any upgrades basically what kind of difference i am looking at..

Besides that i wanna ask whats the difference of this

Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1102 - Wireless LAN

compared to the original one ?

Prince J hope you can help me out ; actually viewing these models on your site !

Originally Posted by Justin@XoticPC
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clev...tml#post7208989

The Killer N's are 2 Antenna. Here are some specs provided by Big Foot

Average Latency (3x3 Comparison) Average
Killer 1.016ms
6300 4.846ms
(Killer N averages 377% better)

3x3 File Transfer Tests (2GB File on Network)
Killer 99.6 Average on 3 tests
6300 172.70

Simultaneous Video Download (Play length 2:29) Simultaneous Traffic 4 Torrents & Streaming Video (video Scott Pilgrim Vs The World Trailer 2 1080p HD YouTube)

Killer # of Freezes 0 Time to play 2.29 mins
6300 # of Freezes 7 Time to play 18 mins

Killer Wireless-N uses Advanced Stream Detect™ technology will automatically classify and prioritize application traffic (Such as Skype or other apps)

Exclusive Killer™ features
Up to 5x better latency than competition
Advanced Stream Detect™, Visual Bandwidth Control™
True 802.11n implementation
Dual-Band radio operates at 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
Supports both 20 MHz and 40 MHz channels for higher bandwidth
Capable of more simultaneous streams
Killer delivers high link quality and better throughput over range
Killer uses true 2x2 and 3x3 MIMO 802.11n specs
Includes advanced wireless technologies
Low Density Parity Check, Transmit Beamforming, Maximum Likelihood, etc
3x3 solution delivers up to 50% better range or 66% better bandwidth than 802.11n solutions that do not use these approaches

bro, i think u see wrong, it should be 2 antenna

I think im gonna aim for the 8130 instead , considering the upgrades i do on the both i noticed the 8150 is more expensive by quite a abit..

What on earth is the difference between 8150 & 8130 if you don't upgrade anything *scratch head*

The screen upgrade is definately a must right ?
How about the thermal compound ; how hot can this computer run on 100% load?

What is the Sager 8130/8150 built of ? Metal body or plastic ?
If in future i would like to upgrade the 8150 could i purchase just the graphic card and assemble it in myself ?
Anybody here that has encountered and reliability issues with Sager laptops?

Just wondering those NP8130 and NP8150 have Optimus technology? Intel HD gc included?

i am tempted to get a sager 8150...is it really that gud?...where to buy in Msia?

Y sager Didnt update their website with 6990M upgrade for np7280 ! strange im considering get two of those for my np7282, other resellers like Origin Pc are offering it still .

Can...but the ...r u sure??? i think its okok oni compare to the other reviews....

i hate my gtx460m.

kinda useless LOL.

whoa

how much is this monster?

how much can i sell? lololol.

im concern about the battery life cause im going to study soon

1. What's the problem you saw? Stock screen is about 60% cg, NP8170 stock/ 3D screen is 72% color gamut. To be frank, stock screen is very enough for users who don't emphasize color gamut. But there is a difference btw both of the screens.

Since I've received numerous PM's requesting my thoughts on the Sager NP8130 I thought I'd briefly outline my thoughts here. I had originally planned to do a full write-up comparing the NP8130 and HP DV6z that I also was evaluating to keep as my laptop. I did a full write-up but never posted it because I felt it was too much talk and not enough constructive feedback and didn't have the gumption to edit it all. Part of the reason was the amount of time I spent with the HP troubleshooting overheating issues, which I should have just returned the laptop the first few days other than mess around with it.

In any case the DV6z is actually a very good budget laptop, and have every confidence the overheating issue was an isolated incident due to feedback in the HP forums here. It won't win any benchmark awards, but actually with some tuning and overclock it can get close to GTX 460m stock performance, and with coupons about $500 less than a comparably equipped NP8130 (blu-ray, 1080p screen, 8GB DDR3 1333). Plus I like that I'm supporting AMD with a new technology that hopefully will give Intel a kick in the pants in the budget gaming laptop category.

Overall the build construction of both machines are actually very good, including the HP. I was impressed with its solid feel and metal finish. No flash lights or crazy things going on except the LED around the trackpad which I think is useless, but whatever, it can be turned off.

Personally, I love the NP8130. But right now, battery life and cost is king for me. I don't use my laptop much these days, but when I do, it's usually unplugged, and only game on it maybe 2 hours a week on average. At best, with web browsing, I was only able to eek out about 2.5 hours of battery life from the NP8130, which is commendable for the equipment it is housing, just not enough to suit my needs. Blu-ray viewing and Netflix barely peaked out 2 hours, actually I got to 7% life left while watching Serenity on blu-ray, and about same watching Full Metal Jacket on Netflix. Running HD content requires at least "balanced" mode, because "power saver" would cause skipping and pauses during playback. On the contrary, the HP offers a superb 7+ hours of battery life with the 9-cell battery. Even after a two-hour Blu-Ray movie, I still had close to 5 hours of battery life left.

The screen, the screen, the infamous 95% color gamut v4 screen! From first boot up it was clearly apparent the screen was brighter with a high contrast and crisp display. But blacks were more like a dark maroon, and even after three calibration attempts I couldn't get everything quite right. I think the high gamut almost makes it too difficult to satisfy the palette, where lower gamut seems to diffuse the colors enough that it's not as noticeable. Viewing angles of the screen are excellent. That being said the 1920x1080 screen on the HP was surprisingly very bright, crisp, and had excellent viewing angles as well.

Other items to note. NP8130 offers a DVI and USB/eSATA combo port that the HP does not. The HP, as of now, can only accommodate the Intel 1000 BGN wifi card. But everything else is pretty common between the two.

I also did a brief overview and put it on YouTube. I hate hearing myself talk, and am not good at doing stuff like this so forgive the amateur video. My camera sucks too. My kids got ahold of it and broke the protective lens cover, so despite my best cleaning efforts, the smudge effect doesn't help matters much!



So where do I stand with all this? I love Sager/Clevo laptops and almost feel guilty for not having one now. My hope is that Sager and/or Clevo (whoever has the pull in this matter) implement some form of switchable graphics and/or some other way to extend battery life further. I don't expect miracles, but when the Alienware M18x offers manual switchable graphics and can get 4+ hours on battery, there's no reason these machines can't either. Just because you want power doesn't mean you occasionally don't need portable computing away from the wall. I'm sure I'll be back if/when they do and if/when my needs change (as they always do). Out of all the laptops I've used and trialed over my geriatric life, from Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Sony, and several odd brands (like my current Hannspree netbook), Sager has the best quality, reseller customer support, and usually a model or two that are the best bang for the buck like this NP8130.

While my NP8130 hasn't officially been returned yet, I want to give kudos to XoticPC for making processing of the laptop sale as transparent as possible to the customer. It should be effortless for the customer to buy, return, or exchange a product. With HP, it took me nearly three hours on the phone to get the exchange for my DV6z right (and it still isn't 100% right, but I conceded ). This is one thing that makes me super skeptical about keeping an HP, but usually if you "burn-in" your laptop when you get it, you will expose any nasty flaws that will rear their ugly heads during the first year of a laptop anyhow. Perhaps I'll be back in less than a year when my HP laptop breaks. But I can guarantee you this, if and when a Sager laptop is made that equals or exceeds the performance and battery life of this HP, and within reasonable cost, the HP goes on eBay and I buy the Sager.

Thanks for reading. You'll still see me around these parts.

hi guyz, its been a while since im in the IT world, but i decided to get one new laptop. currently in california, US. and planning to get a sager NP5175 laptop. however there is this 2 things that are bothering me.

1) how much i can get it in malaysia? its 872 USD here for the non-custom one.

http://www.powernotebooks.com/Sager-NP5175...s-sys-4028.html

wondering if its cheaper here or back in kl.

2) if rosak, siapa boleh baiki? lol. i live in cheras so any specialist in dealing with sager notebooks like lowyat or somewhere in kl?

Help is much appreciated. thanks in advance!

Im not really farmilar with sager but just curious, is the cooling system as good as n53sn? coz i dont feel the heat on that laptop at all but i dont have a sager to look at. thanks!

Can someone tell me the difference in Sager NP8170 - S1 to NP8170, and NP8150 - S1 to NP8150? I took a look in customisable specs and all but they're identical word to word?

By the way...if we order from overseas ? Can we have the additional option of ordering it via USPS Express mail international ? Anyone have any experience ordering from the States and how much it cost for it ?

https://www.usps.com/send/express-mail-international.htm?