Hi Guys/Gals,

As mentioned its time to look for a pc case. I have something of an old mid atx from the 90's

Looking for a case that is the silent type, with insulation and filters on the fan. The current setup makes it sound like a train during top load.

Trying to look for something like the H2 or the R3 from fractal design; but these arent available.

Hope you gurus n sifus can recommend and suggest something within easy available.

DIY with a budget case also possible for im into DIY arena.

Many thanks



how the donor case im using looks like. note the donor had a graphical sense of art how the computer is going

This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Jun 24 2011, 04:05 PM

Silent case ?? Normally only fan make noise . But nowadays most of the fan very low in noise and provide high air flow . Example Artic Cooling fan and CM sickleflow .

Silverstone? Lian Li?

Large and low rpm fan, dampening mat on each casing panel.

can get those dampening mat from garage sales. i would recommend cases with less perforated/mesh area. lian li or silverstone would be nice for a silent build.

as for fans noise. get pwm fans for your hsf. your mobo will control the fan speed. less noise during idle

Hi All,

Thanks for the reply for this. Looks like its going to be a long build to the finish.
Done some research into what im looking at, what the end would be a case thats not to overkill on budget and power.
not something to flashy or something to out of this planet.
This would just be a silent pc that runs 5 days on or more in silent mode, helps with reading and doing stuff

Looked at the fans from CM and AC, looking at the stats and price

CM
xtraflo
120mm 800-2200rpm 15-38db 8.4w pwm 34.02-93.74cfm dlbearing 40k
RM29

excalibur
120mm 600-2000rpm 13-30db 6w pwm 26.4-85.6CFM bbbearing 100k
RM55

blade master 120
120mm 600-2000rpm 13-32db 4.32w pwm 21.2-76.8cfm sleeve 40k
rm27
80
80mm 800-3000rpm 13-28db 3.12w pwm 10.9-40.8cfm sleeve 40k

pwm fan 120
120mm 900-1200 13.8db min 1.44w pwm
44.03cfm bbearing 50k hours
80mm 900-2500 12.84db min 1.44w pwm
28.77 bbearing 50k hours

AC
artic f pwm
120mm 400-1500rpm 0.5sone 57-96cfm fluid bearing
RM33
80mm 700-2000rpm 0.3sonne 28-59cfm fluid bearing

artic F pro pwm
120mm 400-1500rpm 0.5sonne 57-96cfm fluid bearing
RM35
80mm 700-2000rpm 0.3sonne 28-59.5cfm fluid bearing

After factoring price and reliabilty, cause this would be a one time purchase im going with the AC in bulk,
how many i may not know yet till the dinosaur gets a new chasis

I might need to find these dampening mat but yet to come across them in lyn

Agreed, for cases im looking at the door hinge type for we would be able to fit them dampener mats, am also curious on where
to look for those mesh as dust traps. I had an idea of panty hose lol

For the chasis as im on a either R3 or H2 budget out of the box, that is the max i can go, li lian and silverstone comes a little too way ott on the wallet.
Was thinking of getting some generic or equal quality high built to start off.

For the PWM area you have given me some thought of my next area or research, since all the fans included in the build will be pwm based, a controller seems must and nothing too fancy or such. its an interesting thing i never thought off.

Well have to see my updates on this search for a silent machine be satisfying, until then... tally ho mates!

hard to get a silent case out of the box. maybe with some sound dampening materials, fan controller, pwm fans, you can have a near silent pc.

pwm pins on mobos are quite limited. you might want to check the mobo before you buy them

just to ask are they any basic pwm hub with simple controllers ? as you mentioned my mobo might have only two pwm switch or one.

hope to post new updates soon on this weekend.

you can use those fan controllers that mounts to your 5.25 inch bay. just search for them here

http://forum.lowyat.net/FullSystemsCPUMoth...ardsCasingsPSUs

need to set the fan speed manually tho

FT02 is known as one of the most silent air cooling case on the market.

more silent without the cpu heatsink fans in push-pull config.

looks like this can buy alot of other gear, but a diff setup window on right and airflow from another world

CPU cooler is stock, trying to keep this as a project budget aka donor pc for next one

Dont they have something like the CM pwm hub?

still looking for other options for insulation and fan filters

My friend using car's sunshade as filter.

u might consider a second hand laptop, which running 1st generation core duo T2300 or so.. very low price nowadays.
just plug in power adapter, usb mouse keyboard & vga out.
no need to spend time build a silent case

Make no mistake, FT02 is the best performing and silent case when it comes to air cooling to date. It have good build quality too.

Not only ft02 performs great on air cooling, it is also easily installed with water cooling system

CORSAIR 600T also a nice casing~~~~

u can try waiting for cm silencio...about to be released
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6702

find a case with stock fan controller like 600t

Interesting one from CM, was looking for these products the H2 or the R3; this certainly adds up to the list to 3.

Looking at how the R3 and H2 is built with top case options and fan controllers inbuilt i would say they should be selling in the range of RM300+/-

With this Silencio 550 is a better premium option for the budget conscious as the these items are omitted. I am expecting this to hit the market in the sub 200 range.

Other notes cases like Antec 183 , the ob600 and cmstorm are way too over my budget and over premium for me imho . It should be compared to the larger XL Define R3 if necessary.

Definitely cant wait for Silencio 550 to appear

For the moment have bought some stuff for the built and would be showing you guys/gals later. Just need a good quiet chasis

Stumbled upon an app that has been surprising working to reduce the DB's off my dinosaur rig, called speedfan.
Mind though it might look complex at first, a little tuning does wonders to your rig.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

http://unitstep.net/blog/2007/11/02/using-...pcs-fan-speeds/

Till next time

Cals

Im looking forward for ur build...post ur picture once it finished.

FT-02 seller here for cheap

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1908848

so tried to narrow down the source, since there are no casing that are available for now in my view and in budget,

looked at the CPU cooler and got through many makes and budget wise choose this


http://www.silentpcreview.com/fenrir-hyper212
CM Hyper 212 + from modernopc

Time to clean the case and get it in.



Suspect no.1 , 3 years of use and the thermal paste on the stock cooler hardened and degraded. No wonder i was clocking 40-41 at idle



Looking good, but i thought i did this before selecting the 212, always measure the size of it all.. doh



Post installation its runs quietly amid a little hum, hovers around 26-27 C on a good cool day and slightly above the 30 odds. Just waiting for a new home for this fellow

till next time

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Added on June 15, 2011, 8:50 pmgotta thanks all for the good poison and eventually i got a chassis for me dinosaur.



Thanks cent88, supernothing, hahariz, ulysses & super_noob for the help and input.

It going to be quite a task to make this tank work, guess it will be all worth the effort in.

This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Jun 15 2011, 08:56 PM

After much thought about bringing one new case and pros and cons of each i came up with this fellow as recommended,
How I did come out while reading about the features which I actually overlooked it in the first place, it came complete with what I really needed.
Fan filters which makes cleaning less a hassle, quiet case which was the main concern of the build and some sound deadening to further silent the case.

As most of the build was referred here at SilentPCReview, I took a look back at the review here

http://www.silentpcreview.com/silverstone-ft02



*note this fellow is like an m1 tank, so lugging it around to work is quite a task

The suggestion is to use a towel for the base so you could slide the case out from underneath the table to work with.



*completing the transfer from dinosaur to new home

With the exception of the PSU the only cables that were short enough, had to be routed from the front.
Prefer a modular psu to help with the length and eliminate the redundant unnecessary cabling on the left hand panel.
The cabling for the fans did not make sense even with the manual at first, eventually it all make sense with the molex splitting all the power to the three large 180mm, there is a revised version of this fan with a difference grill and blades that makes more cfm.
Bottom fans always set to low, indeed silent
Top fan you have a golf ball blade fan which they mention would be more aerodynamic, personally its a 3pin and I only could route the fan to a 3pin chassis on the mobo, thus running at max 1350rpm.

Completing the build the temps look stable and surprisingly quiet with an occasional intermittent noise.



Temp readings are natural 35~36oC while load never goes above 2~3oC extra
if on a good day with ambient cooling idle is at 26~27

New items addition to the build

*Deep Cool V400 GC cooler

to reduce HD6670 GC temp idle of min 35oC (cold)~41oC(normal)
4 heatpipe 3pin 120mm fan 1200rpm

*Artic Cooler F12 PWM from Clawhammer

to replace the golf ball top fan and piggyback with the pst system on CPU cooler. Pwm daisy chain for a more silent top fan, yea!
120mm pwm fan 300~1350rpm

*Artic cooler MX-4 themal paste, replace overall built paste on hyper212 and the new gc cooler and future builds

Note: there is still a intermittent hum, yet to find out and complete the mentioned items to make it work.

This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Jun 17 2011, 11:09 PM

The thermal paste was easy to apply and there was no curing time, the artic MX-4 applied to the CPU cooler and GC cooler in the build. Why go through all the trouble of using a off the counter thermal paste, rather than the stock.
It's actually a purchase you might want to incorporate with your build in any system for the price and performance you get by lowering and stabilizing the temp on your build. We will see the results later on.
To read more about the reviews proceed here.


back from the installation of the artic cooler F12 PWM fans, since there is two of them I could easily piggy back them with the PST system they have and use the only PWM connection on mobo. I replaced the blademaster 12cm and the silverstone 12cm exhaust fans and must admit they look stunning and runs quiet at 1350rpm max



Next replaced the stock artic cooler fan & heatsink that came with the sapphire 6670. The reason why this was choose, amongst all the other coolers was it a budget gc cooler for a card that makes TDP 80W. If you would be using a more powerful card you might want to choose AC's extereme gc range, for the value you pay and cooling you need.


4 pci slots and only one left...

Other notes
From the time I got the Fortress FT-02 I noted there was a humming sound intermittently and went on to get to the bottom what was the cause of it all. In every case no matter what makes or model I do believe you need some TLC and modifications to make it work the way you intended

Drive bay and 5 inch slot that caused the rattling and humming, apparently when all the rattle from the fans and HDD start, I'd notice the the rivet that holds the two pieces together does not hold it, some freeplay causing the hum.
Quick fix, cut inserted foam along the rail eliminating vibration

Next thing that really put me off is during the build, disassembling the top case would be a heartbreaking experience with the mount clips rather hard to open up. I hope not to break the plastic top one day

Quick fix, removed the screw in hinges that mount the top mount cover, thus eliminating the need of it. Figure you would not need to transport nor secure this point. If you think there is going to be a need for clips, you could mod it to magnet type. The other thing is you could line up some one sided foam for the top if you think there is going to be some vibration noise.
For now its going to be easy to work with the case on swapping connections

some temps

with the case, I note in open air config, side open the positive airflow will be not so directed and closing the case up will yield a 1C lower temp as noted from the review. A first positive airflow case for me and I guess if you haven't tried one you wont be disappointed.

In idle normal temp, we could see the replacement Deepcoolv400 GC making a lower temp at 38~39c, during load it rises to about 42~43c which is the normal idle temp that the arctic cooler stock does.
On the CPU cooling part the idle will hover 32~33C which is an average 3C improvement over the previous setup. I was amazed at this part for I was expecting it to be at the same as previous or more since we replaced the CoolerMaster Blademaster fan which runs at 2000rpm.
Instead the efficient temp transfer from the MX-4 allowed it to dissipate to the CPU cooler faster and while the AC fans only could go max 1350rpm kept my amazed For the moment the CPU temp does average out 35C on use and rarely hits 40C. I note the difference with the paste is that the heat rise range is more controlled and limited.

Idle temp in cool environment, able to reach 24~25C, 32c for GC lowest.

Completed


*looks like an akula silent sub to me rather than a tank lol

this session of the silent build worklog/review is complete with all the items and results from recommendations of fellow forumers.
Certainly there would be more additional items added along the way in the near future like a silent psu from seasonic-X, mods to the case drive bay and top cover if time permits.
All I am pretty happy the end results from the start of this build to the end and I hope you guys & gals enjoyed the journey with me

Regards
Cals