I think you get me wrong

The thing now is i'm having 2 ipad wifi that have issues with location services and both is on 4.3.3 ..

Not sure if you understand what I'm trying to tell you. Don't bother to use location service if you're using Wifi bro.

What? You didn't read properly.

Maybe. I think location service might depend on the locationgate thingy.

Not sure if u understand.

Location service doesn't only apply if you are on the go.. I can drop down at any wifi spot and check in with my location for many purposes.

Hence, I don't agree with your must buy 3G mentality.

Wifi triangulation does not work all the time and its not accurate.

That's the reason why people use GPS bro.

My intention is not to use my IPAD as a GPS device. And like I say location services doesn't necessarily has to be used when you are on the go. I can drop by at a wifi point and probably check my location to know the place around me.

The reason why I came up with this thread is to understand why the location services is not working and what is the reason behind it. OS? Hardware? WIFI? why some work some don't work? I'm very particular with my gadget and if there is something that is not working I would want to find out why it is not working.

https://discussions.apple.com/message/13280...sageID=13280286

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1117102

Here are some of the ppl who are facing the same issue btw

since u update to 4.3.3 where they remove location tracking software from 4.3.3, probably due to this issue.

I'm not sure if Apple will fix this or just let it be.

No, Apple did not specify that they removed them.

They do:
Deletes the cache entirely when Location Services is turned off

They remove the location cache entirely.

You obviously dont understand how this whole thing works. A simple search on the internet would solved all this.

WiFi devices do not send out GPS coordinate. So how does it work? (I will include Google here because Maps is based on Google version but Apple did have their own WiFi database collection).

Actually, what Google and Apple are doing is collecting a database of WiFi hotspots, routers etc, through our Iphones, Ipad 3G, Android phones and tablets. What it does is actually acquiring some basic router info such as MAC address (which is unique for each device) coupled with signal strength etc, and then mark the location with the help of the GPS chip in our Iphones, Ipad 3G, Android phones and tablets. What WiFi Ipad does is gather the router info that it can find in the surrounding area and compare that to the WiFi database in Apple (or even Google perhaps?). It calculate the signal strength that its currently receiving, compared to the records in database, to guess where you are. If you are in an area where the WiFi devices havent been added to the database, it wont work.

One of the reason why it works better at certain place like US, is because Google has a team of mobile tracking van, going around everyday to collect such info which is why Google is now being targeted in US for violating privacy.

Of course, this is based on what I understand from online reading. What Im not sure is what trigger the data collection to activate. Is it when we launched map application or everytime the wifi is activated, on our GPS enabled phones and tablets.

Delete the cache from your devices does not mean its not going to be updated to their WiFi database.

this is one way of doing it though.

That's why to reduce all this headache, just get a 3G version.

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Added on May 15, 2011, 12:48 amI mean, the location service might depend on ur cache. Hey, I'm not apple. I can only guess.

So.... just forget the location service for WIFi version.

This post has been edited by gogo2: May 15 2011, 12:48 AM

You still have an option if you have an Iphone. WiFi Ipad does get GPS coordinate when tethered to Iphone hotspot.

Nope. This myth already busted.

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Added on May 15, 2011, 12:52 amhttp://johnmarshall4.tumblr.com/post/4061084217/debunking-the-wi-fi-only-ipad-tethered-iphone-4-gps

This post has been edited by gogo2: May 15 2011, 12:52 AM

Oh, did not see that coming.. bad luck then for those who wanted it..

Anyway, for RM400 more, I would buy a standalone GPS device and have better maps+navigation.

depend lor. Location service is fun also.

Depends on who you are asking. I almost wanna shut my facebook with my friends always updating their locations... wasting time going through pages of worthless info.

a lot of people will butthurt with ur statement

my mistake sorry

And that is the reason why I started this thread.

Thanks for your input though

This post has been edited by selinix: May 15 2011, 09:46 PM

Then how come I am using a mifi device which is not fixed to a single location like wifi routers and yet my wifi ipad seems to be able to triangulate my location. Reckon they maybe accessing the cellular towers location data thru my wireless 3G mifi device to triangulate our location. To a 50m or so accuracy.. Interesting discussion...