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 Diving is not cheating?, izzit cheating or part of the game?

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TSelasticote
post May 10 2011, 01:09 AM, updated 15y ago

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hello,

just want to ask something, my friend and i have a arguement,

he said diving is not cheating, its part of the game.. (referring to barca vs real games)

but i said diving is cheating, if u tackled or fouled, then off balance and drop to the ground, thats not diving right?
i believe diving is ppl who drops to the ground without any contact, and they are call diver, and thats cheating right?

but he said diving is parts of the game and not cheating? lol..?
he ask me to go ask some 'pro' ppl with high knowledge of football explain to me, then come back to him again with an aswer..

so i want to ask u guys, is diving cheating or not??
i'll link this to him to let him read this..
sorry bad english, hope some1 can explain better for me..

thanks..
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post May 10 2011, 01:11 AM

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cheating when the players get caught diving...heheheheh
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post May 10 2011, 01:11 AM

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to me, it's cheating. which part of fair play and beautiful game considers diving with em?
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post May 10 2011, 01:13 AM

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Modern football, dive at right place & right time you'll get your team a free kick or a penalty. biggrin.gif

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post May 10 2011, 01:17 AM

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this one ah.....seen this argument many times b4...lazy to write tldr comment now, so just to answer ur question, imo yes
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post May 10 2011, 01:22 AM

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cheating is actually in a lot of sport.. like elbow-ing ur opponent before going for a rebound in basketball, cheap shot below belt level in tae kwon do sparring.. and diving in football..

it is cheating.. but at the same time.. it is part of the game..

its not that diving is part of the game..
is that, cheating is part of the game..
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post May 10 2011, 01:33 AM

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cheating/diving is not applicable to barca..tat 1 call acting

get ur facts right mad.gif

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post May 10 2011, 03:39 AM

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It's definitely part of the game now, but it's not a legal aspect of the game. And yes it's cheating and you're only punished for this if you do it poorly. That's the sad truth.
Like the game between RM and Barca, both teams have fantastic divers and marvelous play actors.

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post May 10 2011, 05:22 AM

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Diving cause opponent team get red card...

So consider it diving is cheating...
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post May 10 2011, 05:24 AM

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You have to make it clear.
Diving is cheating.
But cheating is a part of football.

Cheating is part of the game but it doesn't mean you're allowed to do that.
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post May 10 2011, 07:31 AM

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If diving is not wrong, then why a player will get a card if caught diving?

Diving is still part of the game

And IMO, diving is cheating, but cheating is still part of our life in everything
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post May 10 2011, 07:35 AM

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yes and it spoils the game. football ain't no swimming.
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post May 10 2011, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ May 10 2011, 01:33 AM)
cheating/diving is  not applicable to barca..tat 1 call acting

get ur facts right mad.gif
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I think every club got the bad side and Barcelona one of them...

Barcelona players acting and diving in Champions League totally disgrace. sad.gif
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post May 10 2011, 09:14 AM

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cynical/proffesional/taking it for the team foul to stop counter attacks are also cheating....

and yellow cards are no deterent from doing that... its more like a license that allow players to do it at least once...

i think FIFA should consider sin-bin punishment for such offence. if you do it, your team will be playing with less players for 5-10 minutes on top of the yellow card. now that is the actual taking-it-for-the-team...

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post May 10 2011, 09:45 AM

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Sometimes you just have to dive. Because if you don't, the referee might not award a free kick thats rightfully yours.

It is retarded, but the rules in football is quite inconsistent.
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post May 10 2011, 09:59 AM

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well diving is of coarse a cheat and unethical as it is against sportsmenship, else they wont even give yellow cards for that.

The origin of diving starts when players are encourage to go down to attract referee's attention. You know that there are 22 players on the field and the referee cannot be looking out for everyone. Players are taught to go down when they feel there is any pain where they need treatments, that is the only way to attract referee's attention to stop the play so you can receive treatment. Hypothetically speaking, if you are hurt and you still stand, the referee wont think that you're injured and needs treatment. Thats why our coach also taught us to lie down even tho the injury doesnt really hurt much.

but some players abused this part of football, they go down with the intention of getting a penalty or getting someone sent off, not because they are seeking for treatments. Thats where diving beings.
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post May 10 2011, 10:12 AM

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The difference between barca and other teams is.. Barca dives, acts and pressure the referees to sent players off.. while the others dives to win free kicks or penalties.

Just my Point of view =D
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post May 10 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(projectnew @ May 10 2011, 10:12 AM)
The difference between barca and other teams is.. Barca dives, acts and pressure the referees to sent players off.. while the others dives to win free kicks or penalties.

Just my Point of view =D
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nah, i think the difference is they over-did it


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post May 10 2011, 10:45 AM

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Simple - Diving is always cheating. Diving is never part of a football game. Obviously, it's not sporting for a footballer to dive to get a penalty or free kick. Other than that, diving looks really stupid. Now modern football many divers, you ask your friend he practice to dive since he say is part of the game.
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post May 10 2011, 11:08 AM

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In my opinion, any attempt to gain an advantage over your opponent to gain an unfair advantage is cheating so yes, diving is cheating. If diving weren't illegal, why is it a yellow card offence? Just ask your friend that. If is were "part of the game" like shielding the ball or a shoulder check, you won't get booked if you get caught will you?

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