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 FiiO E11 Portable Headphone Amp, Just the initial impression!

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post May 28 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Honky @ May 28 2011, 02:16 PM)
Just got the E11 from E1-AKG couple days back (awesome seller thumbup.gif )

Tested it for 2 days now with different gears and my early impressions are like Clie, simply WOWOWOW. Here's a quick rundown of gear i tested with:

Headphones:
Sennheiser HD558
Beyer Dynamic DT770
Sennheiser PMX680 Adidas sport
Roccat Kave(not tested yet)

Amplifiers for comparison:
Go vibe peak desktop amp
HippoBox+

Sennheiser HD558:
This is my preferred headphone to be paired with the E11, being only 50ohms it was easy for the E11 to drive it. The soundstage and sound separation was greatly improved with the E11, and the bass boost at maximum just about adds enough bass without sacrificing the mids and highs, the Govibe's bass boost instead overboosts at times and causes some crackling sounds sometimes.

Beyer DT770:
I was suprised that the E11 could actually drive my 250ohms DT770, albeit not as good as the Govibe deskamp, but still sounded good enough. It get a little muddly at much higher volumes, but then again the 770 wasnt really meant as a portable headphone in the first place.

Sennheiser PMX680 Adidas sport:
Being an intraaural headphone with a subpar driver, I wasn't expecting much from pairing it with the E11, but oh my, i was so wrong. The E11 actually made the mids and high more clear and crisp, bringing new life to my underwhelming PMX680. Though bass boost can't be used here as it muddles the mids and highs and the bass became too boomy.

Comparing to HippoBox+:
I don't own a hippobox but i've tested it thoroughly once with my 558, its a nice little amp but since it cost RM300 which is nearly 80 bucks more than the E11, and doesnt really sound any better than the E11, plus the E11 has better bass boost compared to the HippoBox, i'd definitely say the E11 is a better buy. And it has a volume control, which the HippoBox lacks. Only advantage i see in the HippoBox is the smaller size and metal housing

Gripes:
The only 2 issues i have with the E11 is that you can't use it while charging, and the housing is purely plastic, unlike other portable headamp (Ibasso, HippoBox etc)

All in all, the E11 is a definite good buy and bloody great value.You folks should get this from E1-AKG while its still on preorder price.If Fiio keeps improving like this and still keeping it economical, they're gonna spoil the market soon  tongue.gif

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post May 28 2011, 07:46 PM

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Just want to know will fiio e11 boost Sony Ericsson MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone cause I still want to use the mic. Does this bottleneck fiio e11? If want to upgrade to IEM cheapest need how much to pair e11? I am using ipod touch 4th gen and SE x10. fiio e11 using 3.5mm so I can use it on both device.

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1751771&hl=MH+500

here is the pic that I add silicon earbud (ibud) to my MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone.

Another question there are how many type technology of earphone drive beside Bass Reflex. Does Bass Reflex good?

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post May 28 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ May 28 2011, 07:46 PM)
Just want to know will fiio e11 boost Sony Ericsson MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone cause I still want to use the mic. Does this bottleneck fiio e11? If want to upgrade to IEM cheapest need how much to pair e11? I am using ipod touch 4th gen and SE x10. fiio e11 using 3.5mm so I can use it on both device.

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1751771&hl=MH+500

here is the pic that I add silicon earbud (ibud) to my MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone.

Another question there are how many type technology of earphone drive beside Bass Reflex. Does Bass Reflex good?
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Bro, suggest u to upgrade ur earphone to any audiophile earphone available. Sony erricsson earphone is not good at all and it sux for music listening unless it is only sony, sorry to say.

There are 2 type of earphone driver which is dynamic driver and balance armature driver. No such bass reflex, it just marketing name. Dont get fooled by those.

So rather than buying an amp, please upgrade ur earphone first.

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post May 29 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ May 28 2011, 07:46 PM)
Just want to know will fiio e11 boost Sony Ericsson MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone cause I still want to use the mic. Does this bottleneck fiio e11? If want to upgrade to IEM cheapest need how much to pair e11? I am using ipod touch 4th gen and SE x10. fiio e11 using 3.5mm so I can use it on both device.

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1751771&hl=MH+500

here is the pic that I add silicon earbud (ibud) to my MH-500 Bass Reflex earphone.

Another question there are how many type technology of earphone drive beside Bass Reflex. Does Bass Reflex good?
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hmm.gif u still want the mic function?

i cant imagine how you utilize the mic while hooking it up to any amp bigger than fiio E3/E5 rclxub.gif

i also agree with bro calmshot. get urself an audiophile iem before thinking of amping it
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post May 29 2011, 01:21 AM

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I am kind person new to audiophile world. This year just read about audiophile world thing. Last time,I ve 0 knowledge on this. I was shock price of Sennheiser earphone (1k++) in Machine@Sunway piramid. I usually buy the Sony MDR-E818LP Fontopia Earphone(earbud type rm25) always spoil (1 side no sound) then I buy Sony MDR-Q38LW Clip type (like wearing bluetooth handfree) headphone cause when jogging or running time this won't drop. When I get my SE x10 earphone and I listen it is the best of all my earphone. Then I get ipod the stock earphone even worst the SE x10 earphone. So, a pair of good earphone have bass and what are the other factor? All audiophile sifu here can recommend me what earphone is suitable for me just a beginner to enter audiophile world. Most of my song collection are in mp3. Does sony good? like ex monitor series. does IEM provide Noise Canceling?


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Please go to recommendation thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1849925 and ask wat u need and wat is ur budget.

Why u looking at rm1k iem? There is lotsa below rm250 good audiophile iem with mic. Even there is rm80-100.

Again please discuss this in the link given.


Added on May 29, 2011, 2:16 amBro e1 got sell KOSS iem with mic. And it is affordable.

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doing a personal favor for bro E1-AKG. impression using AIAIAI TMA-1:

this can was utilized by my gf (around 50+ hours of usage)

EQ:
the gain was spectacular! these cans can cope the speed of tiny double pedal beat with good precision and details. highs improved well on first EQ, soundstage widen more and piercing highs on second stage of eq. the brightness of second eq flip might irritates those loving trance and disco beat.

mids are not the strength of dj monitoring headphones, but the amp does squeeze enough mids for bassheads. for me? no. no no no no noooooooo cool.gif. dont hate me for thr honest opinion icon_rolleyes.gif

vocal:
vocals are clear, vocal-music separation also improve maybe due to soundstage widening. this makes pop song more attractive

sibilant:
too little too notice. hissings also same

note: the second eq makes tma-1 shining so bright that i can only bear 2 songs before needing a break. first EQ is fine. below is the setup picture:

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cool u are using e11. the cable from ur sandisk sansa to e11 cause how much? what is the name of the connector,it is PDMI?
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cool u are using e11. the cable from ur sandisk sansa to e11 cause how much? what is the name of the connector,it is PDMI?
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FiiO does have a LOD for the Sansa.
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When I use LoD for iPhone , then I goto the phone equalizer it still affect the sound.. So what is the real purpose of Lod for iPhone..? I thought it will emit ori sound without amping but changing the equalizer setting on phone do have effect wo... Hope u guys can teach me
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ May 29 2011, 01:22 PM)
When I use LoD for iPhone , then I goto the phone equalizer it still affect the sound.. So what is the real purpose of Lod for iPhone..? I thought it will emit ori sound without amping but changing the equalizer setting on phone do have effect wo... Hope u guys can teach me
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I don't know if it's actually accurate or not, but it is logical.
What I learn from Sansa Fuze is that, with the Sansa, volume control is done at the CPU stage rather than the amp stage. The data is added to the audio before going through the amp.
Probably this is what's happening with the Iphone EQ. The data is added to the audio, then goes through the DAC. The audio itself has been changed at the fundamental level. Amp or no amp the EQ isn't affected.

Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ May 29 2011, 01:22 PM)
When I use LoD for iPhone , then I goto the phone equalizer it still affect the sound.. So what is the real purpose of Lod for iPhone..? I thought it will emit ori sound without amping but changing the equalizer setting on phone do have effect wo... Hope u guys can teach me
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Interestingly, i've never tried changing the EQ while using my LOD. So all i've noticed so far is that the volume can only be changed with the amp.
Needless to say the SQ is a lot better with the LOD, but i assumed since volume control can't be done in the iPod itself, the EQ can't be changed either.

Also, i thought what the LOD does is bypass the internal amp entirely. So maybe the EQ isn't the function of the internal amp? Hmm..

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Guyz, how do I know if my player need a amplifier in order to drive my headphone?

I'm using Superlux HD668B (56Ohms) and my players are usually my PSP, phone (galaxy S), ipod shuffles and sometimes my laptop.
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ May 29 2011, 05:43 PM)
Guyz, how do I know if my player need a amplifier in order to drive my headphone?

I'm using Superlux HD668B (56Ohms) and my players are usually my PSP, phone (galaxy S), ipod shuffles and sometimes my laptop.
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Weaker sound characteristics, like when a familiar song should have a tight bass, it seems blunted off a bit. Also you'll notice that you need some extra volume.
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guys,i am thinking to upgrade my source,now i am using hippo vb and superlux 681,and pairing with my zune hd.

so should i get a C30 mp3 player or an E11 amp?
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you already have your Zune HD, i would say stick to it and grab the E11 Amp. Though the C30 player is good as well.
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I'm just a newbie in Audiophile world, so I don't think my review will proof any big difference tongue.gif.

Firstly, let me present some pictures of the FiiO E11.


The box is simple yet nice. Like the metal box provided, using it as my carrying case.
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Back of the box.
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Some technical Specifications of the E11.
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Without hesitation, i quickly open up my casing like a little kid opening his can of candies tongue.gif
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All the accessories that is provided inside the box.
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The amp itself. Small and light, very easy to carry around.
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Power and battery status indicator.
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The high/low gain along with the Equalizer.
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USB/Charger slot and the input/output jack.
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Opening the battery hatch will expose the battery.
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Take away the battery and you will notice there's a switch below. High Power / Low Power.
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My Audiophile Rig.
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Here comes a nooby review smile.gif. As shown above, i tested the E11 amp with my C30 MP3 player, F1 ProCube IEM and Shure SRH440. I didn't really try out the amp with the F1 Cube yet as it's in the process of burning in. But when i hook the E11 with my Shure SRH440, i was simply amaze with what this amp can do. Wider soundstage, higher mids and highs and definitely stronger bass. I tried hooking up my FiiO E11 with my Edifier C3 to my laptop (I seriously don't know if this is good for the amp or not tongue.gif) and the woofer from the C3 becomes really punchy and produce deep strong bass. I'm shock with what that little thing can do. In my honest opinion, spending RM228 on this amp is seriously worth it. As they say, "Every penny well spent" tongue.gif.

In-terms of size, the E11 is small and easy to carry around. It fits into the pocket nicely as well. Below are some pictures of a comparison chart of the size of the E11.

(Left-Right) Cube C30 MP3, FiiO E11, HTC Desire HD with Case-Mate PoP! Case, Western Digital MyPassport.
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My final verdict, go for it. As a beginner, this is a really good amp to try out. Like someone posted here, better get this fast before their price shoot up if they keep producing something as great as this. smile.gif. Hope you enjoy viewing this biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ May 29 2011, 06:43 PM)
Guyz, how do I know if my player need a amplifier in order to drive my headphone?

I'm using Superlux HD668B (56Ohms) and my players are usually my PSP, phone (galaxy S), ipod shuffles and sometimes my laptop.
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i try E11 with superlux hd681 and hd668b ...seriously e11 + hd668b would not give you a major upgrade in sound if that is what you are expecting..in fact to the untrain ear you would not even notice the different . the only diff u will ever notice i guess is the bass..


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QUOTE(nabzblitz @ May 29 2011, 02:56 PM)
Interestingly, i've never tried changing the EQ while using my LOD. So all i've noticed so far is that the volume can only be changed with the amp.
Needless to say the SQ is a lot better with the LOD, but i assumed since volume control can't be done in the iPod itself, the EQ can't be changed either.

Also, i thought what the LOD does is bypass the internal amp entirely. So maybe the EQ isn't the function of the internal amp? Hmm..
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volume cant be change from iphone when using the LOD but the equalize can...goto setting > ipod > Eq and change while you are playing a song..u will hear the different..that is the reason it make me wonder if the LOD on iphone 4 is really bypassing the iphone 4 internal amp or not..

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Added on May 29, 2011, 11:20 pmvolume cant be change from iphone when using the LOD but the equalize can...goto setting > ipod > Eq and change while you are playing a song..u will hear the different..that is the reason it make me wonder if the LOD on iphone 4 is really bypassing the iphone 4 internal amp or not..
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well, LOd works kinda like ASIO in the PC, you cant control the "wave" button, but you can still control eq and sorts, so yeah, generally LOD bypasses the amp but not the software control of the item
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