Exactly. An engine that makes ~130 HP can barely deliver 100 HP on the wheels. Blame Proton for making such inefficient auto gearbox.

Even changing auto fluid won't reduce the loss... Sigh..

mostly auto GB is like tis one..CVT at lancer GT oso..on wheel onli get 115whp..around 30% loss oso..

I got no choice, thats why I chose AT Parents damn bising, I buy car but they bising. Regretted lor. If not now I'm having at least 110 WHP ad.

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Added on May 2, 2011, 3:09 pmNot that little lah sam. I've seen Lancer GT dyno before, on wheel 131 WHP. About 10-20 HP loss. But the thing is their engine makes much more HP than our PE.

This post has been edited by xandras: May 2 2011, 03:09 PM

Got lah.. U want more? Come lets go do spandex.. hehe..

Ur estimates also quite reasonable lah.. hehe.. U can actually reduce ur transmission lost if u want. Can go to the auto gearbox specialist shop, they can custom make a torque converter which is more efficient. The last i heard is that for RM3k they can custom a torque converter to reduce losses below 15%. And the custom ones are more durable and can take higher power and stress.

Serious? Then I can tell u honestly.. I don't mind trying.. RM 3k is worth removing the 15% power loss..

i saw the inspira ckub posted one..onli got 115whp..maybe 1.8 one gua

2.0 CVT, 1.8 only manual.

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Added on May 2, 2011, 3:20 pmI don't think anyone would want our high power loss TC

Anyway, if we change the torque converter it doesnt involve the whole gearbox.

This post has been edited by xandras: May 2 2011, 03:20 PM

Hmmm.. Ok meet up with u that time will tell u then..

Nearly worthless.. High transmission lost, low torque tolerance..

1.8 oso got cvt

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Added on May 2, 2011, 3:25 pmremember update the details at here..when got budget,i oso wanna do it

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: May 2 2011, 03:25 PM

U just imagine our gearbox got 30% power loss. With every single upgrade done to the car, the gearbox is robbing 30% of the upgrade's power. My full exhaust system could be making up to 14-15 WHP, but because of the gearbox I'm left with only 12 WHP.

Eh bro, where are u ah? Gonna stay home the whole day nia?

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Added on May 2, 2011, 3:27 pm1.8 CVT auto? Who in their right mind buys an auto 1.8? but 115 HP also less than 30% loss lah. 1.8 Engine makes only 143 PS, or 140 engine HP. Still the loss is less than our car.

This post has been edited by xandras: May 2 2011, 03:27 PM

lol kk... another hidden power to come ..hehe.. Reducing transmission lost is the best way actually.. Cos it increases engine efficiency and also gives u better FC..

Haiz no petrol like that loh.. Apa mau buat.. hehe.. Go to W.maju and come back around 50km leh..

can i upgrade it anywhere eg: mesra ...or must be in COSE??? how long we need to upgrade once.....need to pay? means they will take out the old ECU from my car and put a new ECU on it???im scared of problems now..lasttime too many problems..untill now my fuel gauge not fixed yet...the "niddle" keep going up and down even changed the whole meter , and fuel pump...

This post has been edited by roundedfly: May 2 2011, 03:33 PM

are you serious? I'm gonna start saving then...
is it like this? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...w.google.com.my

Nope its only available at COSE.. Cos they have the computer there.. Those normal SC or even authorised one wont have the machine to do it.

CoSE or Serdang SC. Or actually, any SC that can upgrade ur firmware. U just have to ask. Upgrade wont be any longer than 15 mins, and its free.

means they will take out the old ECU from my car and put a new ECU on it???im scared of problems now..lasttime too many problems, brake...steering....untill now my fuel gauge not fixed yet...the "niddle" keep going up and down (Full / empty no matter the petrol is full or empty) even changed the whole meter , and fuel pump...

This post has been edited by roundedfly: May 2 2011, 03:34 PM

No, it's like reformatting ur Windows XP computer to Windows Vista.

u guys have the same problem as well??the stupid fuel gauge keep going up and down...make me pissed..dono its empty or full.. so i need to remember my milage everytime


This post has been edited by roundedfly: May 2 2011, 03:36 PM

The upgrades that I've done costs less than the torque converter lah, yet it compensated for the power loss. U can go change ur torque converter, but without any other upgrades it'll be almost the same as driving a stock manual PE.

Yeah.. Something like this.. But u gotta go to the mechanic to get more explanation though..

Its better to go to COSE.. Cos there they offer fuss free warranty claims.. And they can probably do a better job too..