QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 28 2011, 12:06 AM)
Sadly, somethings can easily break it. Nokia N8 - V29 - [The King of Camera Phones], Let's go underwater shooting with N8
Nokia N8 - V29 - [The King of Camera Phones], Let's go underwater shooting with N8
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May 28 2011, 12:09 AM
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May 28 2011, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ May 28 2011, 12:14 AM) when get free gifts all come lor....simple The sad part is seeing "politics" happening. Whatever it is, this thread has got many of it since the beginning already.when no gift, all complain....simple i guess u also knows it, since N8 got free thingy, then when came to E7 free thingy.....then there starts the hoax .. p.s: izzit so "hard" to keep quiet not boasting out to everyone about the |
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May 28 2011, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 28 2011, 12:18 AM) dun bring t8t8 topic again la, later someone butt hurt... Haha, no need until the extend of breaking things; it doesn't even involve monetary or anyone loosing money. Amazing right? Probably when one gets more mature and look back, will feel the stupidity of it.say later not related or wat....anyway let's it be a history i break your d7000 apa friendship pun tak guna la hahaha see how first ...XD now is too soon for me to decide wan come or not. n8? slow wor.... pets wont pose like human... |
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May 28 2011, 12:26 AM
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May 28 2011, 12:37 AM
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May 28 2011, 12:46 AM
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Actually saw this about 2-3 days ago; about Mango. Got browser comparison IE9 (with hardware acceleration) on Mango VS others on rendering HTML5 Safari - 2 frames per seconds BB Torch - 4 frames per seconds Atrix (Android) - 10 frames per seconds Mango - whopping 24 frames per seconds! Next, this communications features; about social network integration, which actually I mentioned before long time ago in early N900 thread. Maemo have long have this feature about social network integration into the contact book and conversations; Seems now Mango has done it better. Not so interesting, multi-tasking or "task-switching". |
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May 29 2011, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ May 29 2011, 02:03 AM) Nope. HTML 4.1 Well, same like iOS, simplfied and lack of features; That's one key point for stability and less problems.Source N8 Specifications Btw, I tried LG Optimus 7 at Bangsar and woah, I must say the Windows Phone UI is pretty sleek. Might be a good thing Nokia's taking Windows Phone to be the choice of OS but I must say the current running version sure do seem overly simplified and lack of features and damn, Market can't access >.< Camera on Optimus 7 Imagine Nokia's Carl Zeiss with Windows Phone And I tried Nokia E7 at Gardens. Symbian sure look like a turtle compared to the responsiveness on Windows Phone. Waiting for Nokia with Windows Phone. I'm sure it'd be awesome. Basic rules in development (or any other fields), the more complciated/sophisticated, the more doors you open, the harder to maintain, control, etc. and the more work you need to do. QUOTE(hengguowei @ May 29 2011, 02:15 AM) Not really, it's just an excuse for not providing Flash. Nothing wrong to provide, they can "turn off" the support by default and let user choose whether they want to have that feature and take the risk of the problems like lag, slower response, hang, etc. I don't buy their excuses, don't have say don't have, don't want to provide say don't want to provide, don't give excuses, especially lame ones. Plus, the videos I posted before for Windows Phone, iDunCare performs the worst for HTML5 rendering with only 2 frames per second, Android got 10 frames per second while Windows Phone with IE9 utilizing hardware acceleration renders at 24 frames per second. Still waiting for Windows Phone to support Flash; the news about Adobe creating Flash for Windows Phone has been announce since early 2010. Now, I only read, both Adobe and MS are "still" working on it. |
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May 29 2011, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 29 2011, 11:24 AM) really? i tot after Steve Job ditched Flash, and Google also do the same, they not gonna develop Flash for Windows Phone. Yup, it's still being used by many nonetheless; If don't want to support or provide, then just say it, don't give "lame" excuses; That's what I trying to say. Flash = memory hogger, fking complicated codes and it's Adobe. HTML5 = much more lighter, simple codes, and it's from W3C, not some money forking company. They can always give OPTION for the user. "Turn on support for Flash", then put a disclaimer. Not providing and giving "lame" excuses is another story. BUT anyway, I'm just nobody and they don't need EVERY TYPE of user to use their device, every device has its target users; Just like cars, there is different segment, different types, that suit different people. QUOTE(andrekua @ May 29 2011, 11:25 AM) Let's put it this way, if Windows given ONLY "Guest" account to the user, then as an admin, you have lots of control over the user and you have less worry what the user is capable of doing; If you can control they can only run 1 application at 1 time, not allow them to run certain programs, no access to certain features, etc. You can pretty much be sure there will be less complain to the user (unless they are intermediate-advance users).The problem is iOS? They never give ANY OPTION to the user. Everyone is treated as the same, regardless you're "professional" or someone who have never used a computer before. As for other "smartphone", perhaps they should make their OS "DEFAULT" as simple as possible, then the intermediate-advance users can choose to enable the advance options; But then, the "normal" users might ask, "How come your device can do this and mine can't". Of course, you have to understand above usage of "account" is an EXAMPLE. In just like software development, we try to make it simple to the users and prevent them from making problems, etc. Depending on the software you develop and user coverage, the simple part is, the software might be target to small scale (e.g. company, and there's not really the need to make the program/software "boombastic", BUT as a developer, we can always make it more flexible for the user through turning on certain options.) For example: The search function, for most simple user, they just use the search. We don't give them the "Advanced Search" by default, the user can "choose" to use it, IF they know how to use it. Even if they starting out as SIMPLE user, then can eventually upgrade and learn. If we only LOCK them with simple search function, then next time they saw another software which offers "Advance Search", they'll be like point blank, and they said, I prefer the previous software, more easy to use? *HINT* this is also a "dirty" strategy to keep your user. Just my cheap cheap 2 cents lah. |
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May 29 2011, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 29 2011, 01:54 PM) Mmm doesn't matter la. Who the hell keep surfing on Flash websites on mobile? I mean a really flash websites, not like youtube and such. Why not? Hardwares are improving everyday; Actually, since late 2009, when N900 was introduced, it was already capable of running Full Flash website; One can browse Facebook just like Desktop version, that was on 2009, now it's already 2011. Yes, not everyone may be happy with the performance even with todays hardware; but that really depends on user, what do they want.I just wondered, why other smartphones manufacturer didn't make things like BIS? Cheap, yet sufficient for social sites-holic. Isn't more practical than paying an expensive bill for mobile broadband. For me, I want a mobile computer that works as close to a real computer as possible. I've used computer since MS-DOS age, those processor and ram was like... Example: a more technical/experience/knowledgeable user, when they experience problems, they will try to understand why and when they understand why, it makes a big difference and sometimes, they can choose to use it in a way it performs better or utilize it and bear with the drawback. E.g. A phone has limited performance; you can keep it simple by turning everything off, no widgets, even turn off wallpaper, whatever and have better performance; while some maximize their usage. It'll be good if there's profile that can switch between the 2 or few. Usage is entire up to the user, the DIFFERENCE is... CHOICE. One can buy a sports/racing car, and driving like a TURTLE to save fuel, or enjoy the drive everytime he/she drives knowing/understanding that it will consume a lot of fuel. If someone who doesn't understand, buys a sports/racing car and revv it like mad everyday, then complains the car has high fuel consumption; Then it's the person's fault, don't blame the car. QUOTE(andrekua @ May 29 2011, 02:02 PM) Hmm, quite different from what I thought. WP7 won't be open sourced for sure, thus we can only rely on what Nokia chooses for us. I think what you want is already available somewhere. Both Android n iOS don't have a lot of those stock in-house apps like file manager etc. If you need those, you would need to download or buy them from Market. I think your idea are brilliant, but there's one catch. Those user who don't need those advance feature will ask whether or not they can pay for a simpler version of it. That will create diversion. Perhaps something like in apps purchase to unlock advance features. Just like early Android devices from HTC namely Legend n Desire. Only RM100 apart despite the big difference in hardware configuration. Well, it's MS after-all; For many end users, open or not, isn't really important, most important is the features, flexibility, stability, etc. For now, I would say it's not bad and interesting especially with "Mango" update.As for the "catch", yea, I know this; It's like softwares, there's a LITE version VS a Full/Profesional version, OR, Windows 7 Home Basic, Windows 7 Home Premium and so on... BUT, then.... everything has a catch right? It also applies to hardware. If you provide a powerful phone, then there will be user who might say, I don't need so much power, I need cheaper phone, right? Now, the difference is... SOFTWARE can easily be upgraded, no problem (e.g. you can upgrade Windows Home Basic to higher version). Maybe the only limitation would be, it's limited by the hardware. So, it's always better to give MORE than to give LESS. Hence, my point, OPTIONS/CHOICE. I would prefer to make the phone suit as many people as possible, they can make the software "default" in SIMPLE mode; It's up to the user to turn on the advance features as needed. My personal view on Apple is, they prefer NOT to give ANY choice to the users; They prefer to be in control. It may not be a bad thing, just that, for more advanced users, they may not like it or have to live with it, or go underground. But then, it's up to the manufacturer; perhaps their target market is only those specific group of users, so they don't need to bother about those "professional" that complaints; As long as their product satisfy the customer group that they're targeting. Anyway, above is my personal opinion and m cheap 2 cents; There's no wrong or right, the company choose their own decision and have their own target customer/users. This post has been edited by Andy214: May 29 2011, 08:19 PM |
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