PL20 is kindda light on bass.... i would recommend u PL21, its actually a balance phone with added bass for kicks.... i really love the sound but sometimes the bass on PL21 could be a bit over powering (im getting old maybe, so sensitive with bass)

to sum up its something like this:

PL20 - its clear, detailed sounding but the bass would be a little light for some.
PL21 - i have this phone (well still have it) and for its price... it gives a good detail, punchy bass but not to the extend its muffled the voice.

do choose your poison....

its made from aluminum... the seals are pretty much good that u can particularly sleep with it comfortably... ( i dont recommend this... but i do fell asleep for a couple of times with this) the cables are durable, so doe the 3.5mm plug. overall, u have a pretty sturdy earphones for reasonably good price...

as for Koss and ifrogz timbres... i cant commment since i never see or audition both of the phone said

u want to try audio technica CK100???

errr.. roughly the price

open in ears? well i only know and only own 1 open in ears but it comes with a driver.... and i dont know if u can find it nowdays...

stax srm001 mk2


yeap i can hear background sound with this sucker... but the energizer/driver is somewhat a bit bulky.... and the price last time i see ppl selling second hand is around USD300+-

but if u find some open in ear... do tell me... its kindda rare also...

but if u willing to try something else.... why dont u go for Koss KSC75

recable it and u'll be having audio bliss.. its best bang for buck phones. i think someone at LYN also selling this...

M30 wont be able to give u a good kick bass if u ask me.... M30 do produce bass but just enough.... since its a monitoring phone...., its emphasis more on detail and clarity.... thou i enjoy listening to M30 plug to maverick D1 preamp tube....

u want cheap and light bass but still manage to bring the details? well u should consider Sennheiser MX400. for a dirt cheap price (i got it around rm20++ only) its sure going to be a done deal.... (retail price is rm59 i think...) and its an ear bud....

at least u should try it first before passing finale judgement... it should not be expensive to be good sounding.....

ATH M series usually a monitoring phones.. meaning they are neutral and some say have a boring sound thou i love the sound coming from ATH M30 with emphasis on details and clarity but not on bass. SR80 or for me im very familiar with SR80i are in -your-face like sound and its really good for rock because the sound of guitar flicking are freaking awesome... and its not lacking bass... but im not sure if ure the type who likes in-your-face presentation sound because it can be tad annoying and u tend to get tired easily because of too much info to absorb....

so basically -
ATH - M range are monitoring phones. clarity and details are very good. thou i cant say much about bass...
SR80 or grado SR range - in-your-face kindda sound. detailed and pretty much for rock. but prolong usage will exhaust ur ear and u cant listen with them long

shure SRH440.... well i did try those but i couldnt stand it because its sound is thinner than SR80i and for methe mids and highs sounded a bit metallic to me... but i guess u need to audition it to be sure



i supposed for your budget it would be good enough.... or u can try soundmagic range.... which is bang for bucks also....

with that kind of price i would suggest u go for Yuin PK1. it'll satisfy ur needs for sound WAY better than iBeats... well unless u are interested more to impress people than to impress your ears....

JayCY,
Its best if u can audition since u are investing quite a money over there.

steer away from beats... for that amount of money, better buy something else... unless u are looking for fashion statement rather than good sounding product

i thought E11 or fiio amps are quite neutral?

so i was right.... it is neutral but the speed and harder hitting of the bass making it sounded a bit dark.... interesting.... thanks for the info...

i not quite sure.... just try equing it 1st... because for one im not so sure that TMA-1 have that clarity u wanted... even u got a bright amp, u are clearly going to compromise the bass department for sure....

ciplak will sound ciplak....


and u paying hundreds of ringgit for a ciplak product while u can spend as much or less buying other than ciplak products... further more u pay for the quality of the product and also have warranty if anything happened to the phones...

now do ciplak beats pro got warranty? what if u use for a day then suddenly it died? can claim warranty arr??

sorry brah... im a grado fan... so i'll take grado sr60i anytime on the day.... pair it with some songs from ACDC will blow ur head away.... (well that is if u love in your face sound signature like i do anyways....)