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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V9, D5100 stock arrived !

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post Apr 29 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Apr 29 2011, 12:14 PM)
I guess is handshake... Currently no pc to d stuff... Using my hp to online most of d time... Still can't handle @ 1/60,reali nid faster shutter... Bro bliz,will take ur advice for faster SS... D weight of d body + grip reali make my hand feel shaky when carrying it...
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Faster shutter also no use if your DOF is too shallow because slight movement will shift the focus plane.

Try shoot at different distance.
Some lens have some macro capabilities or let's you shoot very close; The closer you get, the more shallow the DOF; If you use big aperture, surely the DOF will be very shallow. If you want to experience DOF, try shooting macro or closeup and play with aperture.

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post May 4 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 4 2011, 12:40 AM)
tak mampu nak beliĀ  tongue.gif
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tolak tarik? tongue.gif

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Old lens?

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ May 4 2011, 12:53 AM)
2875? or 70210 but ur last post of  70210 dont have that vignette
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Maybe 18-200?
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post May 4 2011, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 4 2011, 02:40 AM)
hhuauha... got people answer it correctly at last
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post May 4 2011, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 4 2011, 10:01 AM)
the answer is 18-200mm VR
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hehe, nice. Mebbe next time can list down a few lenses for guessing tongue.gif

Btw, what focal length is that? tele or normal/wide close up?

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post May 5 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ May 5 2011, 10:18 AM)
i am sure some of you guys here have seen this but for those who haven't, do click on the link and be surprise...

UV filter test

well, as someone who doesn't use a UV/protection/clear filter, i find this test to be a bit useless... hahaa
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Shocking? Hoya HMC turn out the best of all among the 20 filter tested! Super HMC and Pro 1D also fall out and expensive B+W turns out to be not so good.

This test result is going to shock many...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 5 2011, 11:41 AM)
umm...check the results properly.
hmc and pro 1d have the same score.
pro 1d is just placed 2nd cos its more expensive.
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True, thats why its better. If you look at the image, seems the HMC has some slight edge too, especially the last pic test.

QUOTE(ifer @ May 5 2011, 11:44 AM)
all 20 pieces are a waste of money
heliopan which apparently have 16 layers of coating perform badly.
some even has the quality of a window glass lol
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True, but if one insist on getting one for 'protection', seems like Hoya HMC is a better choice and bang for buck. Budden... I think another website posted the HMC doing poorly, maybe its fake HMC or? no idea, and there're also many versions like UV(0), etc.

Then again, most of the test were done as a test, when go for real shooting, any degration or effects from the filter, the person might not know. As for testing, the current website done a better test than the others tough.

QUOTE(@meno @ May 5 2011, 11:48 AM)
Both the Hoyas score better due to the effectiveness in cutting UV rays.
The ability to cut UV rays will not be as important on digital sensors as compared to the film days.
So i guess no matter how well the UV rays are blocked, it doesn't serve it's purpose.

I'd rather be looking at the amount of Visible light entering as a more accurate judge of which is the best.
Besides, other factors such as flaring has to be taken into consideration as well.

Apart from using it as a protection, i don't really see the need of UV filters.
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Don't just see the score of UV rays, take a look at the sample images taken, its clear that why the HMC fared better. As for visible light transmission, sure its more important especially if we'fe talking about lowlight. BUT, if one were to use filter, he/she should know whatever filter he/she plans to use, it will anyhow affect the visible light transsson.


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QUOTE(Irbean @ May 5 2011, 11:56 AM)
so which one do you prefer. Hoya MC / Pro1 D or BW XS-Pro
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I hope you're not deciding your purchase based on what other prefers...


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post May 5 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Irbean @ May 5 2011, 12:13 PM)
since they have the experience using both type of filters, it can helps me to decide..even effect 10-50% of my decision.
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if everyone recommended some cheapo brand, will you buy?

Just saying. Each has their own opinions. As the website review, it tested over 20 filters, with details, sample image, etc. Isn't that serves as a better reference than few words from anyone?

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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 5 2011, 01:29 PM)
I bought mine at RM3950, got it last year just after it was launched not long. Bliz got his for RM3800.
The expensive B+W and so called the best is the XS-Pro line up. I don't see that in the review.
I don't see the XS-Pro in that review, too early to conclude.
I would look at B+W and Hoya. Zeiss no experience, Heliopan from review not too good... Rodenstock haven't seen them around here before.
I have both the Hoya HD and XS-Pro. The ring doesn't feel different to me in terms of rigidness. Both are 77mm size.
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Maybe yu can test it against the HMC since you have it? But judging from our photos, assuming they're on XS-Pro, then I suppose it looks promising, or it could be the N lens tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 5 2011, 02:49 PM)
The HMC is a 50mm thread on my 50mm f/1.8D lens. My 77mm thread are all on my other lens... and only the 1635 is using XS-Pro, other 2 is on Hoya HD.
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oh, so your 85 is on HD? Seems workin well.
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 5 2011, 03:47 PM)
i see. do u have more pictures? ...  tongue.gif
any comments about the lens throughout ur usage?
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if you made up your mind on this, personally suggest to you not to try others as it may affect your decision tongue.gif

what purpose are you looking for for this lens? If dedicated macro, should be good. If you don't mind longer focal range and paying a little more, the sigma 150mm f2.8 macro is great, plus the zoom barrel doesn't extend, good for portraita as well but the range will be over 200mm on DX.


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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ May 5 2011, 03:51 PM)
It's not that really slowpoke to me though ... it does sounds slow but not really slow  wink.gif
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compared to the sigma equivalent, its slightly slower, noiser, less accurate and hunts more, but its claimed to be sharper and a lot cheaper.

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QUOTE(Irbean @ May 5 2011, 04:09 PM)
85 1.4G focusing slow meh? yesterday just tried 85mm 1.4G on shop..it focus in a few second..i think around 3second max..
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3 secs??? That's ike crazy slow. I think macro lens set in full focus mode also not so bad tongue.gif
even handphone doesn't need 3 secs? tongue.gif

QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 5 2011, 04:25 PM)
I'll be using it more towards close up & product shots. So far that's the cheapest macro lens ... hehe. Also people say it's quite sharp for a cheap macro lens. I did try my fren's sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 macro lens. Quite fun to have very low MFD, especially for close ups.
Anyway, my gears are as in my siggy below. Gonna pair it with D3100. Still looking for a used SP AF90 lens.
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the sigma 17-70 is not true macro, it has some macro capability thats all.

The tamron sp90 is dedicated macro lens, you can try check out sigma 150mm as well if you don't mind the range as its better overall but price slightly over rm2K if not mistaken.

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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 5 2011, 04:54 PM)
Thanks andy for the reply. Will try to look into it if my budget permits tongue.gif.
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No problem. See your budget, if you made up your mind on tamron, suggest you not to try out other lens cause it might effect your decision. Personal experience, its a big difference overall, but its price is the main selling point.
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QUOTE(Irbean @ May 5 2011, 05:12 PM)
selling at 900..
haha the 3 second just my assumption.. and yet that's the max..not at least need 3 second..my point here is, is it 85mm focusing slow as mention in previous post..
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Yea I know, that's why I put a tongue.gif
I know it should be a typo but the figure hard to measure.
I think celciuz is comparing his 85 against his other lenses which has faster focusing speed.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ May 6 2011, 02:57 AM)
actually bro, does ur camera have MA? (micro adjustment).. these might help you fine tune ur lens
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As the name implies, its micro adjustment, even if hiscamera body has the funcgtion, if the lens front/backfocus a lot, the 'micro' adjustment up tp +20/-20 won't be of any help, plus, usually we want to fix the problem than using AF Fine Tune. If someone wish to sell in future, its better that its fixed.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 6 2011, 02:58 AM)
bro.. I will join the photo shooting if time is allow. find suitable schedule biggrin.gif
anyway is this focus correctly on the right eye?
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It's off. And the picture is under? or did you PP and add contrast?
The previous picture of this girl, I think you add too much contrast? did you PP?

Booom is good, but it will affect the skin tones and noise/grain. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 6 2011, 10:12 AM)
I prefer sigmalux in how it render the bokeh. tongue.gif
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actually, if given pictures taken by different nifty fifties, can you differentiate which pictures bokeh is taken with which nifty fifty?

Anyway, the pice can be a huge difference between the cheapest fifty and the most expensive fifty.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 6 2011, 10:24 AM)
and who cares about under. exposure is where you have to play. you don't have to get the correct exposure every time what?
for food I prefer over expose. why would you stick in the correct exposure?
I didn't pp this one  sweat.gif
try to give me and let me try. tongue.gif
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The subject 'might' care (and I personally care if I shoot people), especially its a girl and she IF she has fair skin. Under will makes the skin darker or BBQ. I'm not saying its right or wrong, there's no right or wrong, as long as YOU like it or if you're shooting for your client, your client likes it.
If your're shooting for someone, you need to make sure your photo satsify them, most people want clear and correctly exposed or brighter photos. And some older people, doesn't know or care bokeh, you give them the picture, they tell you 'whats all this blur one???', bad photographer, change change! So, its all about preference and who the photo is meant for.

I'm just sharing my opinion and asking you is it under cause i feel the skin tones is dark, but I haven't seen the real person, so I don't know how she look like in real person? Is she that dark?

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Another reason I highlight on the skin tones is because the picture just before aldos, the picture is bright and skin tones looks great, but suddenly, you scroll down to the next post with picture, you see the big difference.
Again, no wrong or right and I didn't mentioned anything about wrong or right, my question was simply out of curiosity, 'is it under?', and also about contrast since I'm curious.

QUOTE(Isepunye @ May 6 2011, 02:38 AM)
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 6 2011, 11:04 AM)
err.. when I was shooting that it wasn't for shooting purpose yet testing purpose bro as I shooting after I bought it. smile.gif
that is the reason I am using 1.4 the shallowest I could have and focus on the eye.  laugh.gif
it is not that I care bokeh the most. I did shoot with f8-12 as well smile.gif
no intention of having it as my master piece just yet.
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Nono, I'm not talking about you caring for bokeh when I give the example of elderly wanting clear, sharp photos. I'm just giving example that there is no right or wrong, it depends on the person the picture is meant for. If the person loves bokeh, then of course you try to give a good bokeh shot, but if the person likes clear sharp photos, then bokeh is useless. Don't misunderstand my post, try to get what I'm trying to convey tand share to you, I'm just trying to say I never say there is right or wrong, or rules in photography.

Whether you're testing or simply shoot, I'm not and I did NOT say you do wrong..... I was asking is it under? and asking is it you add contrast and share my opinion on adding too much contrast. I did not say you are wrong or right...... cool bro... notworthy.gif

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