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 Need recommendation/advise for my caraudio system, pls use this thread in the future

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post Jul 20 2011, 01:13 AM

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no ppl share wat they listened?
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post Jul 21 2011, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 20 2011, 09:10 PM)
So dang hard to please your golden ears mang................
lol.......


Added on July 20, 2011, 9:11 pm
My staging fail kao kao. cry.gif
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staging no big prob !!!....
(if the stage too low, then sit lower..if the staging no center, then sit at behind...lolz)
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post Jul 21 2011, 09:03 PM

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well, we can mod it....EA sponsor workmanship, icer sponsor car and material...we make a mclaren kancil..lolz few k kaotim....lolz
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:15 AM

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sure la but i bet it's gonna be a kancil la....dun mod something that are hard for the first time la.....


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:16 amkancil if need to change other new mod is easy ma..estima hard la..


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:16 amizso : instead of doing document, better sponsor some as a return?

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post Jul 27 2011, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(nam3le5s @ Jul 27 2011, 02:19 AM)
I think I get the picture. So I guess I should rephrase the question..

What speakers/component set should I get? budget rm300-400. I'm guessing thats enough only for front (2x tweeter, 2x round speakers, 2x crossover) ? I should later on get another set for the back right?

thanks guys..
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this questioned urself whether u wan quality or quantity smile.gif


Added on July 27, 2011, 3:00 am
QUOTE(Turnip @ Jul 27 2011, 02:44 AM)
Hello ICE-philers?or can consider as audiophiles oso?  tongue.gif

Another ICE noob here, but worse  laugh.gif In need of improving my stock Waja speakers(rear speakers not functioning suddenly).Which is most advisable for best improvements on a rm500 budget?  sweat.gif

Im more to details of sound as well i don't think i can get far as to an hifi setup like on Wharfedale speakers+Marantz receivers?

i don't know my budget can go that far of my requirements.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Should i increase to rm800 or something?No subs for the time being.Clarity and detail is important here, (dang im asking too much!)  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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instead of changing rear spk, maybe u can move the front to rear and buy a better 1 for front?

if you got the cps waja with metal bracket, then u are having good platform while if u got the old waja, then need to spend little on the panel mod to make ur invest worth it.

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QUOTE(nam3le5s @ Jul 27 2011, 08:39 AM)
Howie: Is one component set is enough for a car like Wira? I mean thats why I would think I need 2 component sets.

Izso: I don't mind getting used - especially if its good quality. But I am a noob here. Would appreciate if you throw some brand names I should be looking out for. I can increase the budget if its really worth it..

Thanks guys.
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sound quality yes, sound press / party car no


Added on July 27, 2011, 1:19 pm
QUOTE(Turnip @ Jul 27 2011, 09:33 AM)
thank you for your reply Mr.Howie, mine is the Waja 1.8 Renault model, im not sure what u meant by metal bracket? sweat.gif

So the front move to rear?Is the front speaker the same as the rear for bass purpose, because i realize when my rear kaput not so much bass is produced  sad.gif

Sorry kinda noob in ICE talk  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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since ur is the old waja, the cheapest solution is the panel mount spk style with some reinforcement. this work all the time with less stress on pocket

the rear spk should be 6.5" but fornt is 5.25..with proper bracket it can fit in. but after u change the front component, your bass will be come from front but not back...back bass is terrible for stereo.

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post Aug 4 2011, 01:31 AM

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hu preout doesn't affect volume......a 8v preout should have same volume (db) with a 2v preout at the same percentage of the volume dials (%/100) on the hu.

hu with 20 dials turn to 10, are having same SPL with a hu with, 50 dials turn to 25.


Added on August 4, 2011, 1:33 amhigh preout are used to increase the SNR. not volume

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post Aug 4 2011, 12:52 PM

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SNR is the ratio of the input signal (hu music) and the noise (from car electrical)....

The higher the SNR, the less noise you will have...

if use high output hu and turn the gain high to gain volume, it's decreasing the SNR.....which is a bad idea if you are going for SQ because it intro noise to the system. to gain higher volume, power of the amplifier is the cure. But if the volume is really too low, add in 10-15% is okay..dun over

nowadays amp can accept mostly 6v or even 8v output to match with the high output of the hu to optimize the SNR....if your amp can only accept 2v input but your hu are giving 8v output, the chance of getting noise from the system is a lot more higher than an amp with 4v input, so goes to amp with higher volt input.

good example:
"Why tune gain higher on amp will get whining noise but turn it down wont have the noise?"

this is because of the SNR.......when u turn the gain too high, the SNR decrease and the signal and noise ratio are closer....floor noise are having closer ratio to your signal(music) and here comes the noise because u amplify both of them with very close ratio.

Understand why manufacture make high output will help...reading time.

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post Aug 4 2011, 01:01 PM

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some ralated link, pls digest

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...04205753AARQrxm

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2934873
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post Aug 5 2011, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 4 2011, 08:15 PM)
Howie : Interesting.. then I stand corrected. I've always had the impression pre-out affected the overall volume!
so is the preout just for u to gain the output level of an amp?
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Aug 6 2011, 11:09 AM)
guys, can i fit in mohawk speaker into vios 07 front speaker?
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yes of course...
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post Aug 8 2011, 03:19 PM

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which amp which sub which speaker are depend on how you match the system. there's no best match in the world. a same amp with a same spk and a same sub can give u variable setup...
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(cheesycake @ Aug 8 2011, 03:35 PM)
What I am really worried is whether I should get a 400w sub when my AMP only has 380w RMS at 2ohm.

Zennn recommends a sub around 300-350w but I'm having trouble finding one around that wattage. sad.gif
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400rms sub is actually quite powerful....i believe u will only utilize it from 150-300rms....anything above it will mostly make ur car boom boom......

ur amp will only clip once it over 380rms, and for 380rms in a normal sedan/hatchback it's already like thunder stomp...so underpowering it will be fine if you didn Spl in ur car.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:40 PM

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as long as something not in ur car, considered junk?
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post Aug 10 2011, 10:54 PM

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a cap are used to decrease voltage fluctuation and provide faster current transfer, i dunno when does izso said a cap can increase the voltage/current of a car charging system. pls enlighten me.
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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Aug 10 2011, 11:19 PM)
The link provide.. test done by Richard Clark regarding Stiffening Capacitor & also so called junk... Unfortunately Richard Clark & his buddy David Navone develop & introduce it into ICE Industries at Autosound 2000. They also hold the patent where they making millions of money from it...

At the beginning & couple of years RC praise that so called junk like heaven, After a few years RC come out with the test & condemn it like hell..........

http://www.davidnavone.com/about_navone_engineering.htm
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so wat it means in layman terms?
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QUOTE(kyheng @ Aug 11 2011, 12:47 AM)
Well, when an installer has no skills, they will just use the junks to reduce voltage spikes.... A good installer will look for the ways to reduce voltage spikes, which is an art and skill......
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well, when someone who dunno, he always think he can. So till the day come, still struggling with his own world.


Added on August 11, 2011, 3:04 am
QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Aug 11 2011, 12:50 AM)
Another statement made by RC...

1) http://www.monstercable.com/mpc/stable/tec...Performance.pdf
2) http://www.monstercable.com/mpc/stable/tec..._Capacitors.pdf

Without David Navone, RC just nothing maybe still doing marketing audio product.....
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so basically someone are just praying to the so call "god-alike ghost" or "ghost-alike god" that work the same way with him? if what i understand here are correct....

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post Aug 11 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Aug 11 2011, 10:16 AM)
^Talk about yourself?


Added on August 11, 2011, 10:47 amBTW, that's the difference bwteen me that always lurking around in US forums and you that only stick in the acc shop...... Promoting myths......
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promoting myth that works with satisfied customer feedback is nothing worst than talk nonsense with no proof other than taking other's mistake as own success.


Added on August 11, 2011, 3:23 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2011, 01:39 PM)
he got install ma, cheap cheap visatons weih, vifa also got weih
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buying branded stuff doesn't mean it will sound good la.....there's why so many ppl that go after brands/look are still suffer from low quality music......


Added on August 11, 2011, 3:27 pmchicken wrap paper is not same with paper wrap chicken....

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post Aug 11 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2011, 03:41 PM)
chicken wrap paper ok ma, at least can see chicken, paper hiding inside  thumbup.gif
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that's why i always let ppl say sell paper wrap chicken stuff ma..cos i sell chicken at paper price....tongue.gif not use the brand to let ppl think it's good...(chickern wrap paper theory)
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post Aug 17 2011, 06:10 PM

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boring, any new recommendation?

how about mine?

i wan a dvd d.din on front, then a roof monitor for rear, able to play surround with max effect and stereo with best sq. music genre are mostly jazz, pop, rnb and sometimes house.

car is estima 2000. budget not set yet.

the main priority is the driver must be able to fully enjoy the movie and stereo while passenger wont feel boring too. Avoid changing setting while in multimedia and stereo mode.

anyone to recommend me?

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