I heard that, it is because of the traffic, and the Dev and Gov are sorting out on how to handle the traffic before/after the completion of Da Men.
Noted: this is a rumors, not fact. Don shoot me for anything
Da Men @ USJ 1 ( Next to summit ), Discussion of Vesting potential
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Jun 6 2011, 04:48 PM
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They couldn't official launch yet because of the AP they are still appealing.
I heard that, it is because of the traffic, and the Dev and Gov are sorting out on how to handle the traffic before/after the completion of Da Men. Noted: this is a rumors, not fact. Don shoot me for anything |
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Jun 6 2011, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Jun 6 2011, 04:48 PM) They couldn't official launch yet because of the AP they are still appealing. But the shop already sell wro ...I heard that, it is because of the traffic, and the Dev and Gov are sorting out on how to handle the traffic before/after the completion of Da Men. Noted: this is a rumors, not fact. Don shoot me for anything |
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Jun 6 2011, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Jun 6 2011, 04:48 PM) They couldn't official launch yet because of the AP they are still appealing. great I heard that, it is because of the traffic, and the Dev and Gov are sorting out on how to handle the traffic before/after the completion of Da Men. Noted: this is a rumors, not fact. Don shoot me for anything persiaran kewajipan is a nightmare for every USJ residence |
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Jun 6 2011, 05:12 PM
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Those are shops. He told me the building plans are yet to be approved and was asked to sign spa. My friend checked with standard chartered and hong leong banks. Both banks put a red flag on this project. Another bank, panel of the project offer of 65%. That why he pulled out. No one from sales office offer help. Such a lansi attitude, why bother to buy their products?
Added on June 6, 2011, 5:16 pmIt is true. They only got development order approval. No building yet! Not even submitted. AP and DL still long way! This post has been edited by 1investor: Jun 6 2011, 05:16 PM |
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Jun 6 2011, 06:16 PM
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Not official launch but the project is fully sold off? So means mostly taken by the internal staffs and big fish insiders. So means the demand is not so great afterall, soon we will see many units available for sale.
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Jun 6 2011, 06:39 PM
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Kan I told u all from begining, the SA for DA Men are lan si like their project is the only one in the planet. pui pui.. I never see such lansi kuci fart SA b4.. Common la..R they serious?? Their face as though someone in their family died everyday..haha..
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Jun 6 2011, 07:05 PM
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Not sure about commercial but i only heard about the serviced apartment.
This situation is not call fully sold, is called fully booked. So ppl place their name for the booking/waiting list. And when they had the AP, then buyer have to continue their progress by signing SPA, if buyer do not want to continue, then the deposit placed will be fully refunded - admission fees. Usually when a new mixture development (commercial land) come into the market, they will need to first apply for the bottom floor to the top floor. Most of the time, shoplot will be the one that come out with AP first, then only serviced apartment. Shoplot, if the places is full of traffic, then the reason to build shoplot is much more reasonable and valid and the delay of the AP won't take that long. Serviced apartment, if the place is full of traffic, then it will become an obstruction to sort for other way out to ease the traffic. Normally place that will occupied by residents will apply on this case. Otherwise, people will start demonstration at the area, and people will filed complaints to land office/district in charged. And due to all of that, the dev must know how to tackle this situation. This post has been edited by clanzkiller: Jun 6 2011, 07:15 PM |
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Jun 6 2011, 09:20 PM
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Jun 7 2011, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Jun 6 2011, 04:48 PM) They couldn't official launch yet because of the AP they are still appealing. Good, hope MPSJ can pressure Equine to build a flyover to ease congestion in that area. With the flyover, a big negitivity is erased. At least then can justify the MK pricing I heard that, it is because of the traffic, and the Dev and Gov are sorting out on how to handle the traffic before/after the completion of Da Men. Noted: this is a rumors, not fact. Don shoot me for anything Actually this is quite a possibility as 10 yrs ago there has already been given an allocation (Mydin donated RM700k) but dunno why still no progress. Added on June 7, 2011, 9:13 am QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Jun 6 2011, 07:05 PM) Not sure about commercial but i only heard about the serviced apartment. Good old 'sold out sticker game' to whip the waterfishes into a buying frenzy This situation is not call fully sold, is called fully booked. So ppl place their name for the booking/waiting list. And when they had the AP, then buyer have to continue their progress by signing SPA, if buyer do not want to continue, then the deposit placed will be fully refunded - admission fees. This post has been edited by rakyat: Jun 7 2011, 09:13 AM |
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Jun 7 2011, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Jun 7 2011, 09:09 AM) Good, hope MPSJ can pressure Equine to build a flyover to ease congestion in that area. With the flyover, a big negitivity is erased. At least then can justify the MK pricing I heard that , internal staff and their business partner also need to write name under waiting list ....if someone reject , they can buy immediately on that unit. 99.99% not yet reach to public also sapu d ...Actually this is quite a possibility as 10 yrs ago there has already been given an allocation (Mydin donated RM700k) but dunno why still no progress. Added on June 7, 2011, 9:13 am Good old 'sold out sticker game' to whip the waterfishes into a buying frenzy |
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Jun 7 2011, 10:53 AM
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[quote=rakyat,Jun 7 2011, 09:09 AM]
Good, hope MPSJ can pressure Equine to build a flyover to ease congestion in that area. With the flyover, a big negitivity is erased. At least then can justify the MK pricing Actually this is quite a possibility as 10 yrs ago there has already been given an allocation (Mydin donated RM700k) but dunno why still no progress. I doubt so. Equine this type of developer only see $$$$. (to be fair its a public listed co, so there is shareholders pressure to record EXTRAORDINARY profit in this crazy BBB property market) They will definately not SPEND money to enhance a project which is already FULLY Booked. Y spend more money away when yr project is already a sucess? Added on June 7, 2011, 10:56 am[quote=henryhing,Jun 6 2011, 06:39 PM] Kan I told u all from begining, the SA for DA Men are lan si like their project is the only one in the planet. pui pui.. I never see such lansi kuci fart SA b4.. Common la..R they serious?? Their face as though someone in their family died everyday..haha.. [/quote] Its actually NOT the lcly SA's fault. It is ours (dear buyers) fault. We keep rushing to book the already overpriced unit hence driving demand up, up and up. If all the buyers unite and boycott the project, the SA would overnight turn into a welcoming angel. I guarantee you that! This post has been edited by mercury8400: Jun 7 2011, 10:56 AM |
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Jun 7 2011, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Jun 7 2011, 09:09 AM) Good, hope MPSJ can pressure Equine to build a flyover to ease congestion in that area. With the flyover, a big negitivity is erased. At least then can justify the MK pricing They are allow to stick the sticker on the unit board as an indication of the units has been booked/sold. But since i heard that most of the buyers had placed their deposit, so the Dev have the rights to stick it. Actually this is quite a possibility as 10 yrs ago there has already been given an allocation (Mydin donated RM700k) but dunno why still no progress. Good old 'sold out sticker game' to whip the waterfishes into a buying frenzy Those reason they gave is actually true, we cannot blame them to said that is a reason upfront. They only have the rights to collect booking fee (not downpayment), they have no rights to ask the buyer to proceed once they got the AP cause is just a booking fee. Unless downpayment, then there will be a lost to buyer. QUOTE(Raub @ Jun 7 2011, 10:16 AM) I heard that , internal staff and their business partner also need to write name under waiting list ....if someone reject , they can buy immediately on that unit. 99.99% not yet reach to public also sapu d ... I don't think so. As alot of public or so called public VVIP/VIP able to put booking fee before the internal staff or business partner? Supposedly that if this is true, then public will not have a chance to put their booking fee as to compared will their staff, who worked with the Dev that had no idea what are they working on?QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 7 2011, 10:53 AM) Its actually NOT the lcly SA's fault. It is ours (dear buyers) fault. We keep rushing to book the already overpriced unit hence driving demand up, up and up. If all the buyers unite and boycott the project, the SA would overnight turn into a welcoming angel. I guarantee you that! Couldn't said that bro. Buyer have the rights to inquire and ask for products information. Buyer also need to know what is that before they buying. So as a SA, they must know how to handle the buyers, not to lcly like u guys said. Even the demand is alot, but supply less, SA shouldn't treat buyer that way. Is totally their fault. Normally this happened because they, as the SA, did not get a comm. when selling a unit. They worked for basic and on behalf of the Dev. So most of them are just cincai working. For them no gain if they manage to sell a unit, but the company gain. So u ask A, they answer A, u ask B, they answer B. They will not push the buyer by telling more information instead of direct answer. Is true that, if a project is not well selling, the marketing team will tide up and find a solution to push their product, thus this will create make SA more polite and friendly. Cause if they cannot sell, their Director will screw the marketing manager, and the marketing manager will screw the marketing team. And i believed alot of ppls here, not for this project only, if only booking fee, they will rape it like pasar malam. Cause they do not need to worry, if i cancel deal, i get back my money, only - admission fee, which is worth. Applied for speculator/flipper. They simply take up 10 units. And when AP released, asked to sign SPA, they release out, and earn so called top-up money. And still people buying to get a more worthy price. This is a loop-hole of law. So, to judge a new development if that project is very successfully in selling, you have to judge from after the releasing of AP, and cool down period of 15 working days. Otherwise, you will bring yourself to a wrong path. This post has been edited by clanzkiller: Jun 7 2011, 04:50 PM |
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Jun 7 2011, 10:25 PM
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Flyover is not all the responsibility of Equine.There are the contribution from all the developers who having the project at Subang.As i know, the contribution just got 12-15%. May be is higher than this percentage currently.
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QUOTE(ahkang @ Jun 7 2011, 10:25 PM) Flyover is not all the responsibility of Equine.There are the contribution from all the developers who having the project at Subang.As i know, the contribution just got 12-15%. May be is higher than this percentage currently. MPSJ claim that the flyover will cost RM1.2 mil (10 yrs ago) & Mydin already contributed RM700k so left only RM500k. Pasarana can also be arm twisted to contribute since their LRT 'park and go' is just next to Damen Actually in a 'properly managed township' the flyover (traffic dispersement system) IS the responsibility of the developer (of new project in the existing township) else they will not get approval. Infact any new development in a matured township need to get consensus from the residence/ owners within the vicinity. But in Bolehland, developers can just bulldoze their way with the municipality turning a blind eye. 'Sticker game' - developer will place stickers on choice units (corner units, cheaper low floors, facing pool or KLCC ect) before soft launch to make it look as if the project is selling out fast. Mind u nobody has booked these units, it is just a sticker. So potential buyers will be enticed to place booking fees on not so ideal units. After the development is 'sold out', some of these units will be released, SA will claim 'loan not approved' or 'buyer back out' ect. Very common ploy to induce BBB This post has been edited by rakyat: Jun 8 2011, 09:41 AM |
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Couldn't said that bro. Buyer have the rights to inquire and ask for products information. Buyer also need to know what is that before they buying. So as a SA, they must know how to handle the buyers, not to lcly like u guys said. Even the demand is alot, but supply less, SA shouldn't treat buyer that way. Is totally their fault. - I was being sacarsticNormally this happened because they, as the SA, did not get a comm. when selling a unit. They worked for basic and on behalf of the Dev. So most of them are just cincai working. For them no gain if they manage to sell a unit, but the company gain. So u ask A, they answer A, u ask B, they answer B. They will not push the buyer by telling more information instead of direct answer. - Some SA got commission. Its just that they have so many bookings(and so much commission), they just don't care anymore for the buyers. Its like u want come, dun wan f* offIs true that, if a project is not well selling, the marketing team will tide up and find a solution to push their product, thus this will create make SA more polite and friendly. Cause if they cannot sell, their Director will screw the marketing manager, and the marketing manager will screw the marketing team. - That's what i just said
And i believed alot of ppls here, not for this project only, if only booking fee, they will rape it like pasar malam. Cause they do not need to worry, if i cancel deal, i get back my money, only - admission fee, which is worth. Applied for speculator/flipper. They simply take up 10 units. And when AP released, asked to sign SPA, they release out, and earn so called top-up money. And still people buying to get a more worthy price. This is a loop-hole of law. - That's what a lot of people are doing. But what's more distrubing is that a lot of people are willing to give undertable money so secure an overpriced unit. In short a lot of waterfish around, just need to get the hook out!So, to judge a new development if that project is very successfully in selling, you have to judge from after the releasing of AP, and cool down period of 15 working days. Otherwise, you will bring yourself to a wrong path. [/quote] |
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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Jun 7 2011, 04:43 PM) And i believed alot of ppls here, not for this project only, if only booking fee, they will rape it like pasar malam. Cause they do not need to worry, if i cancel deal, i get back my money, only - admission fee, which is worth. Applied for speculator/flipper. They simply take up 10 units. And when AP released, asked to sign SPA, they release out, and earn so called top-up money. And still people buying to get a more worthy price. This is a loop-hole of law. Most of the development will forfeit your booking fees if you cancel your booking without valid reason. Full refund only if loan not approved. Oso transfer is not allowed before S&P agreement is signed unless it is within family members. Of course there are development that forgo these rules and allow transfer before S&P signing but make sure you find out the T&CSo, to judge a new development if that project is very successfully in selling, you have to judge from after the releasing of AP, and cool down period of 15 working days. Otherwise, you will bring yourself to a wrong path. |
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Jun 8 2011, 09:32 AM) MPSJ claim that the flyover will cost RM1.2 mil (10 yrs ago) & Mydin already contributed RM700k so left only RM500k. Pasarana can also be arm twisted to contribute since their LRT 'park and go' is just next to Damen Actually in a 'properly managed township' the flyover (traffic dispersement system) IS the responsibility of the developer (of new project in the existing township) else they will not get approval. Infact any new development in a matured township need to get consensus from the residence/ owners within the vicinity. But in Bolehland, developers can just bulldoze their way with the municipality turning a blind eye. - Like u say this is M'sia. U (exisitng residence) not happy yr problem. Developer can just "pay" MPSJ. U bising, developer hire thugs to "kautim" u. And if developer can make so much money (overbooked launches like Da Men) without spending any then Y would they bother (to build the flyover) 'Sticker game' - developer will place stickers on choice units (corner units, cheaper low floors, facing pool or KLCC ect) before soft launch to make it look as if the project is selling out fast. Mind u nobody has booked these units, it is just a sticker. So potential buyers will be enticed to place booking fees on not so ideal units. After the development is 'sold out', some of these units will be released, SA will claim 'loan not approved' or 'buyer back out' ect. Very common ploy to induce BBB - Maybe but Not now. There are lots of "waterfish" around these days |
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why always complaint the traffic issue ...klcc , sg wang also jam but still got a lot of ppl ...
more jam more ong lah ...if you dun wan jam , please move out to Bkt Beruntung , Nilai , Bentong |
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Jun 8 2011, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Raub @ Jun 8 2011, 10:01 AM) why always complaint the traffic issue ...klcc , sg wang also jam but still got a lot of ppl ... I think you should visit the area (Damen) It is not KLCC nor Sg Wang/ Bkt Bintang. It is a suburban area i.e. housing estate as oppose to City Centremore jam more ong lah ...if you dun wan jam , please move out to Bkt Beruntung , Nilai , Bentong Added on June 8, 2011, 10:46 am QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:54 AM) I think our ADUN is very pro-active and does listen to the resident. I think MPSJ will definitely enforce some sort of requirement to Equine for a traffic dispersment system, might not be a flyover, mayb widen the road.This post has been edited by rakyat: Jun 8 2011, 10:46 AM |
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Sorry to interrupt in this forum. I know a number of SA(s) for this project and actually they are quite friendly. Most of them are from Malton. I think those who are really LCLY are from Equine. This project is not bad as compared to Sunway Velocity. Pricing is at the higher side, no doubt but for a cautious investor, with strong holding power, price will at least double up in 10 years. However, if anyone would like to sell in short term, appreciation in price might be very minimum.
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