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post May 24 2009, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 24 2009, 01:23 PM)
Yippeee my LHDN Refund cheque is here already...that's so efficient.

BUT my wife's refund didn't come even she submitted 2 weeks earlier than me.
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Good for you. I got a letter this week from IRB too and thought they are informing that I'll be getting my refund too; however, to my dismay the letter instead mentioned that I have claimed for refund and they are investigating sad.gif I submiited my BE form in March 09. Last year did not face this problem and got my refund in less than 2 months from date of submission.
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post Jul 3 2009, 09:41 AM

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Government already paid back RM3.1B and I have not gotten my overpaid taxes. For the last few years I got my money back early. Went IRB yesterday to find out status and system showed my forms have yet to be process! mad.gif So the officer at the counter print out a red memo to the officer incharge of my case to expedite my case.

QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 3 2009, 09:33 AM)
I thought the rule of the thumb is, if no receipt, do not try your luck by putting into deductions.  hmm.gif

Receipt lost/misplaced/don't have/don't know is not acceptable by LHDN audit. They will take out the amount and re-calculate the taxable amount. Worse, they fine you for wrong/falso submission. The small fine RM50 maybe 10x more than the amount deducted.
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Yah, no receipt better don't try luck. The fine is like 1.65 if I not mistaken.


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post Jul 10 2009, 11:44 PM

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Article in The Star website

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New tax deduction system from July
By SARBAN SINGH


PORT DICKSON: A new schedular tax deduction system from this month will eliminate the need for employees to pay an additional lump sum at the year-end to make up for the shortfall in monthly deductions.

Inland Revenue Board (IRB) chief executive officer Datuk Hasmah Adullah said that under the current system implemented in 2004, the board had on many occasions taken a big cut of the individual’s bonus to make up for the shortfall.

“We had cases where an employee’s entire bonus would go to the IRB (to make up for the shortfall). We do not want to do this any more as it is unfair to the taxpayer.

“It is better for us to make higher deductions every month. This is a better arrangement,” she said, adding that under new system, the taxpayer would have paid up almost all his dues by the end of the year.

She added that the new system would also allow for employees to submit their claims for rebates every month, along with a range of new reliefs.

Previously, the taxpayer was allowed to claim relief for himself, his spouse, their children, his Employees Provident Fund and insurance contributions, and zakat payment (if any), and claim other reliefs only when filing his returns at the end of the assessment year.

Under the new system, Hasmah said an employee can submit claims for rebates such as parents’ medical bills, purchase of a computer, tertiary education fees, medical check-ups, and book and sports equipment purchases to his employer every month using the PCB/TP1 form.

“When this is done, the tax to be paid for that particular month will be reduced automatically. This would practically be a real-time tax payment system.

“We want the taxpayer to benefit straightaway rather then wait till the end of the year,” she said.

She said under the new system, the employee could make monthly claims for 17 other reliefs announced in Budget 2009.
The employee, she added, would not have to submit receipts for the claims to the employer.

Among the new reliefs announced are for travelling allowance, petrol claims, parking fees, food allowance, caretaker fee, maternity and traditional medicine treatment (ayurvedic, acupuncture, etc) and subscription to broadband services.

She said taxpayers could submit their claims for rebates monthly, quarterly or twice a year.

Hasmah said employers who needed assistance on the workings of the new structure could enter the board’s website at www.hasil.gov.my and look for the schedular tax deduction (PCB) calculator icon.
lazy to go find out, anyone knows how much is the relief for subscription to broadband?
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post Jul 11 2009, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 11 2009, 10:50 AM)
For some reason, I can't load the hasil website.
Anyway I have been wondering about this new schedular tax deduction. How should one goes about to claim the tax relief every month since the PCB is deducted automatically every month by my company.
Should I go and inform them everytime I buy a book or something that's tax deductible? Isn't this a lot of hassle for the company HR?
Is anyone's company actually practicing this?
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you should inform the person preparing the deduction about any rebate. It did mentioned that you can do it quaterly. For me, usually by the 3rd quater I would roughly know how much my actual tax would be and would I tell my account staff how much I want the total deduction for the entire year and ask her to adjust the balance months deduction accordingly.
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QUOTE(winner @ Dec 27 2009, 07:16 PM)
Even under the previous PCB system, my monthly income was also over-deducted. I have roughly calculated and found out that I need to claim back quite a large sum for my 2009 income tax.
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your case should be straigth forward as the total yearly tax relief you'll get should be less than RM10K (not considering parents medical bills, medical insurance, education expenses and computer purchase). The overdeduction must be due to your high bonus tongue.gif

QUOTE(winner @ Dec 27 2009, 07:49 PM)
Thanks but what to chat and how to negotiate? I work in a public-listed company with hundreds of employees. I don't think the company would "customise" my payroll only.
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IRB have made a statement in the newspaper few months back that companies are to "adjust" tax deduction where employees are now allowed to claim rebates for personal relief every month. Read link below, looks like you have to fill a form.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0909&sec=nation

For my case, I do tell the person in charge of payroll for the entire group of companies (we do have hundreds of staff too involving many companies) how much I want the deduction to be sometime mid-year and only last week told her again the final total amount to be deducted (by this I would know my final annual income after taking consideration of dividends from my shares/stocks and can determine the tax I would need to pay). I don't fill any forms as end of the day it is the individual responsibilty to ensure he/she pays the taxes due and not the company.

I always ensure that I overpay as lazy to go make payment later after submitting Borong B. Anyway, IRB nowadays very efficient and we do get back our rebates pretty fast.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 15 2010, 10:30 AM)
E-filing. I also don't know why it took so long. I submitted early also.
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I submitted mine by hand in March and got my refund last month. I guess the speed that one receive his/her refund is dependant on the officer in charge of the file i.e. if the officer do not open your file and go thru it, you won't get any refund. Last year my refund was real slow so I went to the IRB branch to check why and was informed that the officer have yet to look into my case so the person attending to me wrote a memo to him or her, a month or so after the visit, I got my refund.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Aug 10 2010, 12:20 AM)
I think IRB very desperate for money.

I received a letter from them, demanding me to pay them 2010 bonus income tax. I was like wtf, this year dunno got bonus or not and amount also unsure, you want me to pay what!!

Apparently a few in my company also get it. We are some sort of partnership among relatives, therefore low salary but compensate with higher bonus depending on company performance. IRB really dare to abuse their power.
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Bro, what letter you got from IRB stating that you must pay? Is it Borang CP500?

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post Dec 29 2010, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 29 2010, 01:25 AM)
a very complex formula is used... let the payroll/HR system handle that
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not really lah, if your salary is kind of fixed monthly i.e. no comission or OT, one should know his/her tax to be paid for that year. For my case, I will tell my HR what to pay monthly after my bonus have been declared and always allow for little bit extra for dividends from my shares.
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Jan 16 2011, 09:37 PM)
would like to ask your kind assistance here.

under the sports equipment bracket...can you count running shoe as excemption?
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Nope, shoes not allowed.
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QUOTE(guitar8888 @ Jan 18 2011, 01:43 AM)
do we need to keep all of the receipts? Sorry for the stupid question. First time filing the income tax.

I guess we only need to produce the receipts upon request?
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You have answered your own question yourself.

How are you going to produce upon request if you don't keep your receipts (when you are being audited).

Very important to keep share/stock dividen receipt as it needs to be verified by IRB officers.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2011, 02:29 PM)
Guys, I need clarifications on these issues:

1. Sports equipment - tax relief (RM 300)

What is considered as sports equipment? A running shoes is the only equipment for a runner, so will it be considered as sports equipment? Or the definition only covers non-attire sports related thingies - like balls, bicycles, etc?
2. Book & publications - tax relief (RM 1,000)

I know newspapers are not included. But how about useless mags (i mean those pop mags that teens buy - mangga, urtv, celo, etc etc)?

Does school children textbook counts?

Morality issue aside, what if we collect a bunch of receipts from med studensts (theybuy expensive textbooks every year) and use it as a tax relief?
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You want to cheat for miserable maximum savings of RM260 doh.gif Wait till the IRB officer audit you because suddenly this year your claim for relief for books shoots up to RM1K and when they ask you the book for whom and where are the books, you will have trouble answering it.

And I am shock that you are a moderator posting this type of question!

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