QUOTE(moe81 @ Apr 20 2011, 06:33 PM)
Dia jual supplement kat Egonutritions. Biasa jumpe dia kat The curve & Lot 10Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 is not halal, For Muslims
Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 is not halal, For Muslims
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Apr 20 2011, 08:31 PM
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May 16 2011, 12:38 AM
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May 16 2011, 03:55 PM
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They use animal rennet as their enzyme to curd whey from the milk. Of course they have to slaughter the animal. If its slaughtered not accordingly to the Islamic way, how can it be considered halal.
Sometimes you can't judge by the number of Malay customers buying a certain product and just say its halal because of that. So many non-Muslims and Muslims still don't understand how to define what is halal and what is not. So don't simply say something is halal if you don't really understand the halal issue. |
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May 16 2011, 08:58 PM
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First of all one must understand the definition of Animal rennet. Also this ruling is according to the Hanafi school of thought and is as follows;
The lawfulness of rennet does not depend on the slaughterer being a Muslim or non-Muslim, in fact it depends upon whether there is life in it or not. The circulation of blood in an organ is the cause of life. No blood flows through rennet; therefore rennet is not a living thing. Therefore, it cannot 'die' and it is thus permissible to consume rennet like dairy products. Therefore whether the animal is slaughtered according to the Halal method or bolted the Rennet is permissible to eat. However the exception to this rule is that rennet produced from Pig is Haram and definitely unlawful. Therefore, one must ascertain whether the rennet used is not derived from pig. If it is not then it is permissible to eat. However, where there is doubt (as is in this case between the four Madhabs) then one must err on the side of caution as children may not understand the difference between rennet and fat and may conclude that animal fat is also Halal and this is certainly not the case. |
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May 16 2011, 09:17 PM
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Interesting argument. I'm gonna sit this one out.
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May 16 2011, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ May 16 2011, 08:58 PM) First of all one must understand the definition of Animal rennet. Also this ruling is according to the Hanafi school of thought and is as follows; interesting. got original links for this?The lawfulness of rennet does not depend on the slaughterer being a Muslim or non-Muslim, in fact it depends upon whether there is life in it or not. The circulation of blood in an organ is the cause of life. No blood flows through rennet; therefore rennet is not a living thing. Therefore, it cannot 'die' and it is thus permissible to consume rennet like dairy products. Therefore whether the animal is slaughtered according to the Halal method or bolted the Rennet is permissible to eat. However the exception to this rule is that rennet produced from Pig is Haram and definitely unlawful. Therefore, one must ascertain whether the rennet used is not derived from pig. If it is not then it is permissible to eat. However, where there is doubt (as is in this case between the four Madhabs) then one must err on the side of caution as children may not understand the difference between rennet and fat and may conclude that animal fat is also Halal and this is certainly not the case. Chow |
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May 17 2011, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE What Is The Source Of Rennet? Rennet is one of the enzymes used to make cheese. Rennet comes from the stomach of young calves. After the calf is slaughtered/killed, the stomach is removed, filled with milk and hanged to dry. After it dries, it is ground up to make crude extract of rennet, which is then purified or sold as is. If the calf is slaughtered according to Islamic requirements, the rennet is halal. Otherwise, it is not. The active ingredient in rennet is chymosin. Chymosin can also be produced by other means, including biotechnology. Chymosin produced using biotechnology is halal. If an ingredient label states the product in question contains rennet, then the rennet came from an animal source. As such, items containing rennet must be considered questionable for the halal consumer until the source is known. If the source calf was not processed according to Islamic law, the product is not acceptable for halal consumption. In general, most rennet produced in the US comes from calves that have not been processed in accordance with Islamic requirements, so the rennet produced is not acceptable. If the product containing the rennet is halal-certified, the source of the rennet should be halal. IFANCA has received a number of inquiries from consumers regarding rennet – some believing that rennet is extracted from live calves. This is not the case. Rennet is not extracted from live calves. It is extracted from slaughtered (dead) calves. And ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, knows best. source: http://www.ifanca.org/faq/ This issue has a lot of views from different ulama. In the end, if one has doubt about this, its best to avoid. But i will look into this issue further and update. QUOTE(bata @ May 16 2011, 11:10 PM) interesting. got original links for this? he got it from here: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=432&CATE=29Chow |
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Jul 26 2012, 06:06 PM
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you guys must be kiddin me......
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Jul 26 2012, 08:33 PM
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Jul 30 2012, 12:56 PM
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there is no kiddin in here bro.. for us Muslim, this is serious matter..
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Jul 30 2012, 08:22 PM
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nice info
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Jan 22 2013, 03:18 PM
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