Do you know that not having halal certificate and not halal is two different matters?

IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL

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Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT

Do you know that not having halal certificate and not halal is two different matters?

IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL

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Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT

WHATS UP BRO!HEHE.IM NEW HERE

It's not about the certificate, its about what they use to derive the whey from the milk by using rennet. Rennet usually comes from animals, and when animals are not slaughtered accordingly to a Muslim way, anything from meat to enzymes are considered haram.

When haram rennet is used in curdling whey from milk, this falls into a haram state.
Dude whats up with the caps?

Muscle juice contains whey which is derived from milk by mixing rennet. If the animal is slaughtered by chopping their heads off without the Islamic way, its considered haram. This implies to the rennet aswell.

By the way, we could consume anything without a certificate if you didn't know that. The certificate or the halal logo if you would call it is just there to ease Muslims to consume the food without asking where the source is.

And yes the milk from the cow nipples doesn't need a freaking certificate or some hocus pocus ritual prayers.

IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL

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Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT

It's not about the certificate, its about what they use to derive the whey from the milk by using rennet. Rennet usually comes from animals, and when animals are not slaughtered accordingly to a Muslim way, anything from meat to enzymes are considered haram.

When haram rennet is used in curdling whey from milk, this falls into a haram state.
Dude whats up with the caps?

Muscle juice contains whey which is derived from milk by mixing rennet. If the animal is slaughtered by chopping their heads off without the Islamic way, its considered haram. This implies to the rennet aswell.

By the way, we could consume anything without a certificate if you didn't know that. The certificate or the halal logo if you would call it is just there to ease Muslims to consume the food without asking where the source is.

And yes the milk from the cow nipples doesn't need a freaking certificate or some hocus pocus ritual prayers.

The product you mentioned only says that it is "not certified". Big difference between not certified, and being not-halal.

Besides, many major cheese/whey/dairy manufacturers don't use rennet from slaughtered calves due to cost. It's simply easier, more consistent and cheaper to use rennet from genetically modified bacteria. When they are producing tonnes of whey (and cheese) a day, using calf rennet wouldn't make sense.

Nice. Reviews in a single website. Thanks!

=) Hence a lot of idiots fall into the trap of mass gainers being a good supplement. Which they aren't. There ARE good ones out there, but Muscle Juice ain't one of them.

Thanks Fubu for the heads up & Darklight for the review site.

Out of curiosity Fubu , do you do a compilation of emails you receive from these companies ? May help us out.

Thanks

Welcome adam, You new here but not i BB

Yea. that's what i thought.. Besar giler.

Dia jual supplement kat Egonutritions. Biasa jumpe dia kat The curve & Lot 10

First of all one must understand the definition of Animal rennet. Also this ruling is according to the Hanafi school of thought and is as follows;

The lawfulness of rennet does not depend on the slaughterer being a Muslim or non-Muslim, in fact it depends upon whether there is life in it or not. The circulation of blood in an organ is the cause of life. No blood flows through rennet; therefore rennet is not a living thing. Therefore, it cannot 'die' and it is thus permissible to consume rennet like dairy products.

Therefore whether the animal is slaughtered according to the Halal method or bolted the Rennet is permissible to eat. However the exception to this rule is that rennet produced from Pig is Haram and definitely unlawful. Therefore, one must ascertain whether the rennet used is not derived from pig. If it is not then it is permissible to eat.

However, where there is doubt (as is in this case between the four Madhabs) then one must err on the side of caution as children may not understand the difference between rennet and fat and may conclude that animal fat is also Halal and this is certainly not the case.

What Is The Source Of Rennet?
Rennet is one of the enzymes used to make cheese. Rennet comes from the stomach of young calves. After the calf is slaughtered/killed, the stomach is removed, filled with milk and hanged to dry. After it dries, it is ground up to make crude extract of rennet, which is then purified or sold as is. If the calf is slaughtered according to Islamic requirements, the rennet is halal. Otherwise, it is not.

The active ingredient in rennet is chymosin. Chymosin can also be produced by other means, including biotechnology. Chymosin produced using biotechnology is halal.

If an ingredient label states the product in question contains rennet, then the rennet came from an animal source. As such, items containing rennet must be considered questionable for the halal consumer until the source is known. If the source calf was not processed according to Islamic law, the product is not acceptable for halal consumption. In general, most rennet produced in the US comes from calves that have not been processed in accordance with Islamic requirements, so the rennet produced is not acceptable.

If the product containing the rennet is halal-certified, the source of the rennet should be halal. IFANCA has received a number of inquiries from consumers regarding rennet – some believing that rennet is extracted from live calves. This is not the case. Rennet is not extracted from live calves. It is extracted from slaughtered (dead) calves.


And ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, knows best.

source: http://www.ifanca.org/faq/

interesting. got original links for this?
Chow

you guys must be kiddin me......