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 Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 is not halal, For Muslims

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TSfubu233
post Apr 16 2011, 12:43 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hey guys,

I've just received an email from Ultimate Nutrition confirming that their product, Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 is not halal. This is the one that's in the black bucket.

They've also confirm that the older version of Muscle Juice 2544(the white bucket) is infect halal and there's a certificate below to prove it.

As a Muslim, it's my duty to share this among my fellow Muslims and I hope we can share this to those who are still not aware of this. smile.gif

Email from Ultimate Nutrition
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Halal Certificate and the list of products under Ultimate Nutrition that is halal.
http://www.zshare.net/download/89029354add8a1e6/

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post Apr 16 2011, 10:17 AM

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Do you know that not having halal certificate and not halal is two different matters?

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post Apr 16 2011, 11:31 AM

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IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL


Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT

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post Apr 16 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 16 2011, 10:17 AM)
Do you know that not having halal certificate and not halal is two different matters?
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 16 2011, 11:31 AM)
IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL


Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT
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2 sensible members in this thread. I like.
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post Apr 16 2011, 03:52 PM

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post Apr 16 2011, 04:34 PM

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Sup. You've got your capslock on if you hadn't noticed.
TSfubu233
post Apr 17 2011, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 16 2011, 10:17 AM)
Do you know that not having halal certificate and not halal is two different matters?
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It's not about the certificate, its about what they use to derive the whey from the milk by using rennet. Rennet usually comes from animals, and when animals are not slaughtered accordingly to a Muslim way, anything from meat to enzymes are considered haram.

When haram rennet is used in curdling whey from milk, this falls into a haram state.


QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 16 2011, 11:31 AM)
IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL


Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT
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Dude whats up with the caps?

Muscle juice contains whey which is derived from milk by mixing rennet. If the animal is slaughtered by chopping their heads off without the Islamic way, its considered haram. This implies to the rennet aswell.

By the way, we could consume anything without a certificate if you didn't know that. The certificate or the halal logo if you would call it is just there to ease Muslims to consume the food without asking where the source is.

And yes the milk from the cow nipples doesn't need a freaking certificate or some hocus pocus ritual prayers.
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
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Welcome adam, You new here but not i BB wink.gif
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QUOTE(fubu233 @ Apr 17 2011, 04:10 AM)
It's not about the certificate, its about what they use to derive the whey from the milk by using rennet. Rennet usually comes from animals, and when animals are not slaughtered accordingly to a Muslim way, anything from meat to enzymes are considered haram.

When haram rennet is used in curdling whey from milk, this falls into a haram state.
Dude whats up with the caps?

Muscle juice contains whey which is derived from milk by mixing rennet. If the animal is slaughtered by chopping their heads off without the Islamic way, its considered haram. This implies to the rennet aswell.

By the way, we could consume anything without a certificate if you didn't know that. The certificate or the halal logo if you would call it is just there to ease Muslims to consume the food without asking where the source is.

And yes the milk from the cow nipples doesn't need a freaking certificate or some hocus pocus ritual prayers.
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i think his caps lock button went missing..or already patah..yet i think, sometimes they didnt bother bout this..same goes to steroids..even though steroids categorized as drugs [correct me if im wrong] which mean HARAM also rite? but didnt bother...nice info here..yet need to clarify 100%..at the moment just avoid from MJ2600 though..
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post Apr 18 2011, 12:24 AM

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thanks for da info ts.. rclxms.gif

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post Apr 18 2011, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 16 2011, 11:31 AM)
IN THE END OF THE DAY,ITS COWS MILK..ALL THEY DO IS JUST SQEEEZE THE COWS NIPPLES FOR THE MILK.DOES IT NEED AN OFFICIAL HALAL CERT OR PRAYERS TO DO THAT?AS I KNOW,IT ONLY APPLIES TO SLAUGHTERING RIGHT?LOL


Added on April 16, 2011, 11:32 amUNLESS ,ITS 100% BEEF PROTIEN LIKE MUSCLE MEDS CARNIVOR.THAT I BELIEVE THEY NEED A HALAL CERT
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Cross contamination from non-halal materials during production can render a product non-halal.


Added on April 18, 2011, 2:06 am
QUOTE(fubu233 @ Apr 17 2011, 03:10 AM)
It's not about the certificate, its about what they use to derive the whey from the milk by using rennet. Rennet usually comes from animals, and when animals are not slaughtered accordingly to a Muslim way, anything from meat to enzymes are considered haram.

When haram rennet is used in curdling whey from milk, this falls into a haram state.
Dude whats up with the caps?

Muscle juice contains whey which is derived from milk by mixing rennet. If the animal is slaughtered by chopping their heads off without the Islamic way, its considered haram. This implies to the rennet aswell.

By the way, we could consume anything without a certificate if you didn't know that. The certificate or the halal logo if you would call it is just there to ease Muslims to consume the food without asking where the source is.

And yes the milk from the cow nipples doesn't need a freaking certificate or some hocus pocus ritual prayers.
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Some other point of view (not sure if it's applicable for Msian Muslims):
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=432&CATE=29

The product you mentioned only says that it is "not certified". Big difference between not certified, and being not-halal.

Besides, many major cheese/whey/dairy manufacturers don't use rennet from slaughtered calves due to cost. It's simply easier, more consistent and cheaper to use rennet from genetically modified bacteria. When they are producing tonnes of whey (and cheese) a day, using calf rennet wouldn't make sense.

This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Apr 18 2011, 02:06 AM
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post Apr 18 2011, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 18 2011, 01:46 AM)
The product you mentioned only says that it is "not certified". Big difference between not certified, and being not-halal.

Besides, many major cheese/whey/dairy manufacturers don't use rennet from slaughtered calves due to cost. It's simply easier, more consistent and cheaper to use rennet from genetically modified bacteria. When they are producing tonnes of whey (and cheese) a day, using calf rennet wouldn't make sense.
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You've got a point there! But in the email, it states that, there are animal sources ingredients in the protein blend and also rennet is confirmed used in the process. Its just that the type is kept secret.

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post Apr 19 2011, 12:07 AM

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It's no big deal Muslim brothers. Here's an unbiased review of Muscle Juice, which is why I never fall for advertizing hype:-

http://www.proteinpowder.net/muscle-juice-2544/

The Bad

When it comes to Muscle Juice 2544, the simple fact is that you are not going to get anything special. With amounts like 55g of protein, you should actually be getting far more than 13g of BCAA’s or other amino acids. Most of that 55g should be pure BCAA’s or amino acids! So this just goes to show you, they are using extremely low quality proteins at best! When it comes to Muscle Juice 2544, you are getting about 60g of sugars, more sugars than you are proteins in other words, and it does not even begin to balance out!

The Skinny

We would not recommend using Muscle Juice 2544. It does not give you any results or benefits, and ultimately speaking, Muscle Juice 2544 is just another waste of time and money. It do9es not have the right quality of protein, and while it may be initially deceiving, it is not something that you should ever fall for. We would definitely recommend finding something else that will come through.
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hi. i'm new here. would like to know, elite whey protein is halal , is it ?
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Added on April 19, 2011, 3:22 amdymatize elite protein

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2011, 12:07 AM)
Nice. Reviews in a single website. Thanks!
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Apr 19 2011, 09:35 AM)
Nice. Reviews in a single website. Thanks!
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=) Hence a lot of idiots fall into the trap of mass gainers being a good supplement. Which they aren't. There ARE good ones out there, but Muscle Juice ain't one of them.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2011, 11:15 AM)
=) Hence a lot of idiots fall into the trap of mass gainers being a good supplement. Which they aren't. There ARE good ones out there, but Muscle Juice ain't one of them.
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then which one do u recommend bro ? luckily i read ur post here. if not i would definitely go for the muscle juice in no time because of the price , protein per serving and serving per container =.=
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post Apr 19 2011, 08:15 PM

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Thanks Fubu for the heads up & Darklight for the review site.

Out of curiosity Fubu , do you do a compilation of emails you receive from these companies ? May help us out.

Thanks
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QUOTE(zaphod42 @ Apr 19 2011, 08:15 PM)
Thanks Fubu for the heads up & Darklight for the review site.

Out of curiosity Fubu , do you do a compilation of emails you receive from these companies ? May help us out.

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Brands like BSN, Universal Nutrition, MHP to name a few....

Always check out unbiased review sites before purchasing something.
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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 17 2011, 12:50 PM)
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Yea. that's what i thought.. Besar giler.

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