Hi all, I just purchased a 2nd hand X10 last Saturday, with the pricing at RM770. I am totally new to smartphone and android but seeing a X10 selling within my budget, so I purchased it without any consideration.

I was extremely excited when purchasing it till I missed lot of suspicious point of the phone, and found out these issues after few days of purchasing:

i.) How long does X10 battery last if I never turn on Wifi/Bluetooth and only 2-3 hours for music + gaming?

ii.) The seller claimed this X10 still have 9 months warranty, but when I asked him can I update to latest version (not to flash and install custom ROM, just official update), he warned me not to update or do anything with the software update. This stopped me from updating the X10 to enable double touch update...

iii.) X10 normally come with a loud speaker? Somehow I found that music playing with X10 is extremely loud with pretty low music quality. Personally feel the speaker is even worse than W810i, is it normal or there are some damage on my speaker?

iv.) With 3 months of usage, the seller claimed the original SE charger was damaged (perhaps the original owner keep plug in and out with the charger to do usb transferring) and replaced me with a Samsung charger. Is it a norm that SE charger will spoiled so early?

Hopefully someone can clear my doubt regarding issues above, sorry for these long-wall newbie questions, especially for those questions that been repeated. Thank =)

Thank you very much for your valuable answer. Perhaps I have too high expectation on X10 speaker and music performance, and have been mislead by other seller (I heard from one seller said X10 music is comparable with W8...that is why having this type of expectation)

I am not good in all this customization thing and wont touch any flash, at least for now, till my warranty is off. But since the shop warned me on that and they never provided me any official warranty card (only their invoice), I think I better follow their instruction till the warranty is off.

BTW, mine one is X10, white.


Thank you very much. So I think it is all right for my current battery, as well as the speaker. The X10 is pretty damaged from outside and I think if the original owner of this X10 did it within 3 months (it is pretty scratched), it is also possible for him to spoil the charger as well, haha what a bad original owner.

What worried me the most for the update is because of his warning and the warranty also came from his shop. Even my action is legal at all but I think he can simply reject me because I broke his warning.

Nevertheless I really appreciated your all answers, and I am very satisfied with X10 especially its camera and video. It is freaking awesome.


P/S: Oh ya any idea on how big the video resolution can X10 support? I tried to put some HD mp4 into it (1920*1080 and 1280*720) into X10 but it failed to play. It is some lagging issue when I am playing 854*400 also

I see. Will figure it out later, now still in the middle of nowhere, lost in android

What a honest and straightforward opinion. Thank you from waking me up from the honey dream. I really never realized it till you point it out, really get blinded with the price. BTW I always got some luck in electronic things and 2nd hand, hopefully my luck will continue for this X10.

Nevertheless, thank you for the wake up and suggestion.


Seem like I purchased it at the right time

BTW thank you for the name list adding


Thank you for your warm welcome. It is really nice explanation, and definitely clear my doubt. From most of your feedbacks it seems like my 2nd hand X10 is still in good condition, I can stop thinking negatively about some of its cons now (although it is moderately scratched )

Honest speaking, I never expect such a warm welcome here, and really thank you for your all suggestion and opinion, nice to meet you all

Sure sure, I know there is still a lot of thing to discover, especially for smartphone and android newbie like me. Need time to read and digest through, it is quite complicated

If I am not mistaken, normally the custom ROM will win the official one right? I haven't try out the new dual touch yet but from the sites above, SE already claimed that 16M and multiple touch will not be included. Are them actually able to achieved by other developer with custom rom? Number wise, there should be a huge distance between 65k and 16M colour...

Hmm I heard that branded device will not getting this 2.3 update, is it true?

My customization version is 1237-0333 which is actually branded X10i S-TEL-SG GENERIC 1237-0333, afraid that I won't be able to enjoy this update

actually I haven't learn how to flash a custom rom

Just in case the branded version really not getting the update, what alternative I have besides using custom rom? Debranded my x10?

Hi sorry for my noobie question, I have downloaded the files as well as FlashTool, and have read the tutorial on it, but since it is my first time trying to flash I just wanna to confirm something:

Since I have both file+tool above and put the FTF in FlashTool firmware, all I should do now is just Flash it to my phone and wait, then connect to SEUS/PC Companion only right? Is there any sub effect since this flashing may change my device original region (branded SG device 1237=0333)?

Can't really wait for my region device to get update and wish to see 2.3 ASAP

Thank you for your help

This post has been edited by strikefred0m: Jul 30 2011, 09:39 AM

Thank for the reply, actually what the usage of region of our device besides for warranty purpose? If it means nothing much then I think I will straight away flash it to GB then only find a way to get it back...


P:/S: Oh ya just found a site that contain all region firmware, but for now only generic been uploaded, the thread starter said he will update branded device firmware soon as well

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936733

Sorry guys another noob question, what is the strength by having an uncapped FPS? Is the video playback will be smoother or video recording will be better? @__@

Wow it was great tutorial and I just followed it to flash in WF GB, everything worked smooth now!!

BTW I saw pretty much on improper flashing the baseband and kernel, so I done some study before really putting the battery out, connect to PC and flash it, below is a quick guide on entering flash mode I found in xda:



Thank to darkvalance at XDA X10 Flash Mode

I was like you 2 days ago, but can't really stand for waiting because I had enough of the laggy 2.1 since I bought it 1 month ago and wanna to try GB ASAP!! It was my first flash to Wolfbreak GB ROM following the instruction on Post 3 and it worked fine =)

Research and read more and I think you will be good to go

For the first time flash, ya It is pretty easy, Flashtool included already both root and xRecovery for you so you just root + install xRecovery as in Post #2 here, then select your firmware to flash in. Before that I simply afraid of the consequence of flash that may harm my phone and therefore did a lot of reading before doing so

Same here. Battery drain extremely fast when in using mode (998), on wolfbreak TW GB

Hey guy what is your SD card read and write speed? Just changed to 16GB class 4 few days ago and tested with SDTOOL, write speed was 5mb++ and read speed was 11mb++. Is it consider good? or I need to do some optimization on SD Card?

From what I know stock GB and all rom based on this one (WB TW GB and etc) will have this problem. Seems like the music lagging in certain interval and noticeable lagging and distort when you press Home button to wake your phone from sleep...


I downloaded and flashed the one with launcher but failed to see the Arc Launcher, but I simply ignored it

This post has been edited by strikefred0m: Aug 1 2011, 08:05 PM

Opps sorry remembered wrong and typed wrong

Yaya I mean that Ray launcher, I flashed the hotfix 4 into my phone, saw the new market but can't find the Ray launcher. I though I was wrongly downloaded but after that I confirmed I downloaded the correct version...

The flash worked well in Dolphin browser

What a face?


Shame on me I forgot to test both of them Only go visit game and blog sites that got flash plugin, going to try them out later

Just to share my experience, the battery usage when putting it into deep sleep is very light, yesterday I slept 10 hours (too tired ) and it only consumed 4% from 46 to 42, however when I start to use the phone I can obviously notice the battery is going down, 15 minutes of playing music and send SMS can use up to 5% and the CPU always at 998mHz...

I wonder it is only my device problem or other also facing this?

I played only music for 4 hours (no wifi, no screen on, only music), my battery is all gone